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Thursday, January 4, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:40 pm

Game Recap for Show #7669, 2018-01-04

CONTESTANTS
Meghan Whalen, a marketing specialist from Chicago, Illinois
Sean Sullivan, a financial adviser from Verona, New Jersey
Steph Bundy, a summer camp director from Oak Park, California (whose 1-day cash winnings total $18,801)

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Thank you, Johnny. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Our first big win of the new year yesterday. Steph accounting for over $18,000. Well done, young lady. Sean and Meghan, good to have you with us today. Good luck to all of you. Here we go into the first round of play, the Jeopardy! Round, with one Daily Double awaiting you in one of these categories...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
AROUND THE SOUTH (2/2)
AT THE YARD SALE (4/5)
PAINT MISS, BEHAVING (2/5, including 1 missed Daily Double)
CLICHES MADE FANCY (4/5)
HELP! TV POLICE! (4/4)
FAUX PAS (5/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Sean: 7 R (including 3 rebounds), 0 W
Steph: 9 R, 3 W (including 1 DD)
Meghan: 5 R (including 1 rebound), 2 W

Clues revealed: 26
Triple Stumpers: 4
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $2,800



SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Sean: $2,600
Steph: $1,800
Meghan: $1,400

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: I hope there's some interesting background information about this regarding Meghan Whalen. You have traveled to France and Belgium to visit...

Meghan: To visit World War I sites.

Alex: Why World War I?

Meghan: Well, I was with a tour group that was visiting a lot of different historic sites. We had a--we worked with a professor who was a World War I scholar, so he took a bunch of people to see the World War I sites. And it was really fascinating and such an amazing part of history to see.

Alex: So he brought it all to life for you.

Meghan: Absolutely.

Alex: Good for you.




Alex: Sean Sullivan, financial adviser from New Jersey. Did you ever practice law?

Sean: Yes, I did, Alex.

Alex: And you won a case without calling a witness, without asking one question?

Sean: Yes.

Alex: I'd like you to represent me. What--what were the circumstances?

Sean: It was a criminal case, and the prosecutor had one witness. He didn't prove his case, and I didn't want to help him out any. And I got to say in summation that I wasn't putting words in anybody's mouth, and we won the case.

Alex: Good for you. A man of few words.

Sean: But don't get arrested, okay?

Alex: Okay, I won't.




Alex: Steph Bundy is our champion, ladies and gentlemen. You work with alpacas, right?

Steph: I do. I work at a summer camp, and we have a number of animals, including an alpaca named Al.

Alex: Do alpacas spit? Because llamas do, don't they?

Steph: They do, especially if he's annoyed at something.

Alex: So he'll spit at you.

Steph: He will if he's very annoyed. Like, you have to give him a shot.

Alex: How do you stay on his good side?

Steph: You give him food.

Alex: Well, that works for me, too.

[Laughter]

JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Steph found the Daily Double on the 24th clue. Steph had $3,000, Sean had $4,600, and Meghan was at $600. Steph wagered $1,500.

PAINT MISS, BEHAVING $800: 1929's "The Woman and the Roses" has one of the floating females of this Belorussian-born painter who settled in France
(Steph: Who is... Kandinsky?)
...
(Alex: Less than a minute now.)

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
AT THE YARD SALE $200: In 1832 Eugene Lami designed a prototype of this for female dancers & at the 2017 yard sale, a used one is yours for a buck

CLICHES MADE FANCY $1000: "One ziggurat as an incarnation of brawn"

PAINT MISS, BEHAVING $600: Rembrandt liked to depict his wife as this goddess of blooming plants--note the garland

PAINT MISS, BEHAVING $1000: Just after Botticelli in art dictionaries comes this French Rococo master who also painted goddesses

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Sean: $5,000
Steph: $1,100
Meghan: $600
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Post by Archivists » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:41 pm

DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
THE MEH DECADE (3/4, including 1 correct Daily Double)
SCIENCE STUFF (4/4)
IN THE DICTIONARY (3/5)
"B" MOVIES (5/5)
GOVERNMENT AROUND THE WORLD (4/5)
FOE PA (4/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Sean: 13 R (including 2 rebounds and 1 DD), 1 W
Steph: 7 R (including 1 DD), 2 W
Meghan: 3 R, 2 W

Clues revealed: 28
Triple Stumpers: 5
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $7,200



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Steph snagged the next Daily Double on the 10th clue. Steph had $2,300, Sean had $9,000, and Meghan was at $3,000. Steph made it a True Daily Double, wagering $2,300.

FOE PA $1600: In this Emma Donoghue book, "Old Nick" is the father to young Jack, who thinks the title domicile is the whole world

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Sean who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 25th clue. Steph had $6,200, Sean had $13,000, and Meghan was at $3,000. Sean wagered $3,000.

THE MEH DECADE $1600: The 1710s in the American colonies must have been sleepy, because in 1720 came the religious revival called this
(Alex: [Before Sean wagers] Less than a minute to go now.)

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
FOE PA $1200: Fighter pilot Bull Meecham gets this title nickname in a Pat Conroy novel; his 4 kids might pick another moniker

GOVERNMENT AROUND THE WORLD $1200: In Germany the 2 houses of government are the Bundesrat & this similarly named lower chamber

IN THE DICTIONARY $1600: Anguilliform means resembling one of these aquatic creatures

IN THE DICTIONARY $2000: This type of amulet gets its name from the late Greek for "perform a rite"

THE MEH DECADE $1200: AKA the Edwardian era, according to Virginia Woolf it was the last decade before a basic change in human character
(Sean: What is the 19-teens?)
(Steph: What is the 19-tens?)
(Meghan: What are the 1920s?)

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Sean: $18,800 (lock game)
Steph: $7,000
Meghan: $3,000

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
CARS

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Lock for first place; lock for second place.
Sean: Wager between $0 (venusian) and $4,799 (martian), and enjoy your victory.
Steph: Wager between $0 (venusian) and $999 (martian), and enjoy 2nd place.
Meghan: You've no hope of catching up... unless Steph does something stupid. So risk $2,999.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
When it was introduced in 1953, this car model's emblem had a checkered flag & a red flag with a fleur-de-lis

FINAL SCORES
Meghan: $3,000 + $3,000 = $6,000 (What is a Chevy Corvette?) (2nd place: $2,000)
Steph: $7,000 - $3,000 = $4,000 (What is Chitty Chitty Bang Bang?) (3rd place: $1,000)
Sean: $18,800 - $3,800 = $15,000 (What is a LeSabre GTO?) (New champion: $15,000)
(Alex: The year should've been a big help to you on this one.)
...
(Alex: [To Meghan] And the fleur-de-lis reference to the French.)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $10,000

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Sean: $17,400, 20 R (including 1 DD), 1 W
Steph: $7,800, 16 R (including 1 DD), 5 W (including 1 DD)
Meghan: $3,000, 8 R, 4 W
Combined Coryat: $28,200

BATTING AVERAGES
Sean: 20/59 = .339
Steph: 16/60 = .267
Meghan: 9/58 = .155
Team: 45/63 = .714

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
HELP! TV POLICE! $600: Cheers! As Marty Hart on "True Detective", this actor had to make some sense of Matthew McConaughey
(Steph: Who is Ted Danson?)

FAUX PAS $1000: Avoid giving this when unsolicited, like George W. Bush did to Angela Merkel at a conference in 2006
(Meghan: What's a kiss?)
(Sean: What's a massage?)
(Alex: Mm...)
(Sean: What is [*]?)
(Alex: That's it, yes.)
(Sean: Neck rub.)
(Alex: Back rub. Neck rub.)

CLICHES MADE FANCY $800: "Insufficient space for twirling one expired feline"
(Sean: What is not enough room to swing a cat?)
(Alex: That's it.)
(Sean: Dead cat.)
(Alex: Dead cat or a cat. We'd've accepted either one.)

AT THE YARD SALE $800: Ah! A copy of this book that Jonathan Swift published "to vex the world rather than to divert it"
(Meghan: What is "A Modest Proposal"?)

AROUND THE SOUTH $400: In 2016 this Memphis home welcomed its 20 millionth visitor
(Steph: What is Gracie Mansion?)
...
(Alex: Gracie Mansion is New York City's residence of the mayor.)
[The end-of-round signal sounds.]

GOVERNMENT AROUND THE WORLD $400: This name for a legislature comes from a word meaning discussion & was first used for after-dinner talks of monks
(Steph: What is congress?)

IN THE DICTIONARY $800: Helen & Gregory, or the inexpert method demonstrated here

THE MEH DECADE $800: Though some, like Michael Crichton, raised fears of its economic might, the 1990s were stagnant in this Asian country
(Meghan: What is China?)

SCIENCE STUFF $1200: (Sarah of the Clue Crew shows a solar flare on the monitor.) Solar flares are often followed by immense bursts of plasma being hurled into space known as CMEs, mass ejections from this outermost layer of the sun's atmosphere

SCIENCE STUFF $1600: Gravity became its own force during the rather brief grand unification era, from 10-43 to 10-35 seconds after this
[The end-of-round signal sounds.]

CORRECT RESPONSES
Marc Chagall
a tutu
a tower of strength
Flora
Francois Boucher
Room
the Great Awakening
the Great Santini
the Bundestag
eels
a talisman
the 1900s
a Chevrolet Corvette
Woody Harrelson
a shoulder massage
not enough room to swing a (dead) cat
Gulliver's Travels
Graceland
parliament
hunt and peck
Japan
the corona
the Big Bang
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Re: Thursday, January 4, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by theFJguy » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:43 pm

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
CARS

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
When it was introduced in 1953, this car model’s emblem had a checkered flag & a red flag with a fleur-de-lis

Steph Bundy: 7000-3000=4000
Sean Sullivan: 18800-3800=15000 (New Champ)
Meghan Whalen: 3000+3000=6000

Correct response:
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Chevy Corvette (Steph – Chitty Chitty Bang Bang) (Sean – GTO LeSabre)

Daily Doubles
Steph: 3000-1500
Steph: 2300+2300
Sean:13000+3000

Coryats
Steph: 7800
Sean: 17400
Meghan: 3000

Combined: 28,200

Scores at the end of the Jeopardy! Round:
Steph: 1100
Sean: 5000
Meghan: 600
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Re: Thursday, January 4, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MarkBarrett » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:44 pm

CARS is not my kind of category unless it’s about a TV show vehicle or I’d even settle for the Ric Ocasek group. Automobile history? No thank you.

I ruled out Ford Mustang, Edsel, and Renault and did not know what to do with the two flags in the clue’s wording. I thought perhaps two guys and scribbled Aston Martin before time was up.

These previous clues matched the year and model though not enough for it to sink in for me yet like some works of literature with a year that J! uses over and over again.
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#7062, aired 2015-05-05 1950s AMERICA $400: In 1953, the first of these Chevy sports cars rolled off the assembly line; all 300 made that year were white with red interior Corvette
#3347, aired 1999-03-09 WHICH CAME FIRST? $200: Toyota Corolla, Ford Mustang, Chevy Corvette, Porsche Boxster
#3146, aired 1998-04-13 IN ST. LOUIS $600: After 1953 & for the next 28 years, this car seen here was built only in St. Louis:
#3095, aired 1998-01-30 IN YOUR CHEVROLET $100: Introduced in 1953, it's considered America's first sports car
#3007, aired 1997-09-30 BUSINESS & INDUSTRY $200: The 1997 model of this Chevrolet sports car is only the 4th redesign since its 1953 introduction
#2884, aired 1997-02-27 AUTO FIRSTS $400: These seats were first offered in 1953 on Corvettes
This week we’re at 5, 5, 6, 6 for clues not played. The powers, writers, and host have to notice. If tomorrow is just as bad then I expect some kind of improvement on the Monday game. One way or another.

Another thing going on this week is a player in each game in single digits for clues correct.

Let’s see if Sean is lurking on this board. Sean, what was this about?
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Re: Thursday, January 4, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by floridagator » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:48 pm

I said Monte Carlo

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Post by econgator » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:49 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:44 pm
CARS is not my kind of category unless it’s about a TV show vehicle or I’d even settle for the Ric Ocasek group. Automobile history? No thank you.
I, on the other hand, was quite happy with that category. Instaget.

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Post by BigDaddyMatty » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:49 pm

Coryat: $25,600
37 R/2 W
DD: 3/3
FJ: :mrgreen:
LT: Marc Chagall (DD)

Very unfortunate for Steph that she couldn't get in on that last clue of DJ!, as that would have gotten her to exactly half of Sean's total. It wouldn't have mattered since they both missed what I thought was a pretty easy FJ! (Then again, I sold Chevys for a few months and then did customer service for GM for three years, so maybe it's just in my wheelhouse.)

Speaking of FJ!, it's interesting that the writers framed the clue as if the logo in question no longer contains a checkered flag and a fleur-de-lis. It does.
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Post by goatman » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:59 pm

LT: Chagall. INstaget Corvette.

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Post by Vowela » Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:10 pm

BigDaddyMatty wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:49 pm
Speaking of FJ!, it's interesting that the writers framed the clue as if the logo in question no longer contains a checkered flag and a fleur-de-lis. It does.
Yeah, I was thinking "wait, they changed the logo?" Guess not :D.

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:20 pm

What is slowing down play so much? We're 0 for 8 on clearing boards this week. There wasn't even an LTAM in the DJ! round either...

Faux Pas for $400. I could've taken 400 guesses and not picked "age".

I saw no way to figure out Tutu for $200. There are lots of things that female dancers use, and "prototype" doesn't suggest clothing to me.

"Tower of Strength" Was my only NHOI/miss in Cliches.

Total brainfarts. I should've gotten the first three "B" movies, but I just couldn't pull them.

"Catherine" was very obscure for $400 IMO.

And I'm 0 for 4 on FJ! None of the clues added up to anything for me. What does a Corvette have to do with France?

Lach Trash: Bundestag. No idea how I knew that.
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Post by econgator » Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:24 pm

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And I'm 0 for 4 on FJ! None of the clues added up to anything for me. What does a Corvette have to do with France?
Louis Chevrolet was French.

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Post by DBear » Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:48 pm

Steph Bundy: 7000-3000=4000
Sean Sullivan: 18800-3800=15000 (New Champ)
Meghan Whalen: 3000+3000=6000

I was hoping that Sean would think Steph would bet no more than 999 on FJ to ensure second, thus allowing him to bet 10800. Not quite an instaget, but definitely able to suss it out. :geek:

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Post by Peter the accountant » Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:48 pm

R: 17, W: 2, costing 1600
Coryat: 9600
FJ: :mrgreen:
LT: used up all my LT karma yesterday. None today.

My worst game this week by far. At least I'm enough of a car guy to know the Corvette logo. Crossed flags, one checkered, done. I've never noticed the fleur-de-lis on the other flag, but that didn't matter to me.

I liked Steph's FJ answer, if not her clavinesque wager.

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Post by BigDaddyMatty » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:03 pm

econgator wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:24 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:20 pm
And I'm 0 for 4 on FJ! None of the clues added up to anything for me. What does a Corvette have to do with France?
Louis Chevrolet was French.
More to the point, corvette is a French word. The diminutive -ette is a dead giveaway.
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Post by Ironhorse » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:03 pm

floridagator wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:48 pm
I said Monte Carlo
Me too
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Post by nlw44 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:11 pm

Nearly pure WAG on the FJ answer, which I got only because Corvette sounded more French than Mustang. I was thinking of "Chevy" Corvette, so Chevrolet being French too didn't even occur to me. But a get is a get, so I am happy.

Also happy because the electricity came back on well before J! time, AND the local news chose NOT to interrupt or preempt the show for storm coverage. They did do a short update during what would have been the opening music, player intros, and AT's opening remarks. But apparently they have been trained well enough to get back to the show before the categories are revealed, which aids my personal score-keeping immensely. Since Comcast decided to drop the Providence station from the Cape Cod market, I am dependent on the Boston station, which can be problematic. :cry:
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Post by opusthepenguin » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:16 pm

Why weren't they prepared for "massage" as a synonym for backrub? Sean ended up spinning his wheels giving extra info when he didn't really need to. That may have been what haunted him into specifying "dead" when Alex didn't say yes quickly enough to "not enough room to swing a cat." I worried that would cost Sean, but apparently some people do say it with the "dead" modifier. News to me.

Bummer for Steph on the Gracie Mansion neg. I think she knew the right response but the lights made her access the wrong brain space. Any other day, any other place, and she gets that one with no problem.

If I were the host I would've BMS'ed "What is Birdman?" just to mess with the contestant. Wait a couple of beats and then say, "Nah, just kidding!"

The Great Santini clue reminded me of our discussion from yesterday. If the clue had been asking for the main character in Pat Conroy's novel about a fighter pilot, would "Who is The Great Santini?" be acceptable? Or would the judges require the name Meecham?

I wouldn't have rung in on the Amanda Donoghue novel clue. But from the couch, I guessed "What is The Room?" I don't know why I added the definite article. I wonder if my response would have been accepted. Amazon does offer a novel called "The Room" by Jonas Karlsson. So maybe I'd have been hoist by the Invisible Man petard.

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Re: Thursday, January 4, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Golf » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:20 pm

DBear wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:48 pm
Steph Bundy: 7000-3000=4000
Sean Sullivan: 18800-3800=15000 (New Champ)
Meghan Whalen: 3000+3000=6000

I was hoping that Sean would think Steph would bet no more than 999 on FJ to ensure second, thus allowing him to bet 10800.
Wagering 10800 would be incredibly foolish. Significantly worse than Steph wagering more than 1000.

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Post by alietr » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:39 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:44 pm
Let’s see if Sean is lurking on this board. Sean, what was this about?
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I got the impression that he was congratulating her for the humorousness of her FJ response.

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Re: Thursday, January 4, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by LucarioSnooperVixey » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:54 pm

34 R
DD: 2/3 (Marc Chagall, Room)
FJ: :(
LT: Tutu, Flora, (Marc Chagall), Francois Boucher, Bundestag, 1900's

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