Wednesday, January 31, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

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Wednesday, January 31, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

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DJ! Round

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Post by theFJguy » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:15 pm

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
FOOD BRANDS

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
Seen here is the location of the first plant of this company

Image

Ryan Fenster: 14400+11000=25400 (3x = $67,399)
Nate Pochomis: 10200-1801=8,399
Elizabeth Connor: 5800+5800=11600

Correct response:
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Ore-Ida (Nate – What is)

Daily Doubles
Elizabeth: 5400-2000
Ryan: 3000+3000
Ryan: 10400+4000

Coryats
Ryan: 10600
Nate: 10200
Elizabeth: 7800

Combined: 28,600

Scores at the end of the Jeopardy! Round:
Ryan: 3400
Nate: 4200
Elizabeth: 3400

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Re: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MarkBarrett » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:16 pm

Alex: …once nearly set himself on fire
Nate: There was no nearly about it. I set myself on fire.

Do not contradict the host as even an $8000 lead with 6 clues to go can disappear. Quite the comeback by Ryan as he was in the red with 12 clues to go and down by over $10K.

Imagine what Ryan could do if he played the game with a little more discipline and board strategy. He had misses all over the place, stayed in a category that was guaranteed not to have DD3, yet later found it, and having managed to eke out the lead he risked dropping into second place.

Ryan laughs at such analysis as he made $25K+ for his efforts. Once again Ryan made his Daily Double beep sounds (he does it at home) and in the end managed to take Sony for a few extra thousand in the FJ! round with the over bet. When his wager was revealed I laughed as Ryan did money-rubbing fingers knowing the big payday was on its way.

The FJ! clue’s image had an arrow showing where to go. Okay, I can handle that as I ate enough of the trademarked product in my younger days and the company’s four vowels in six letters comes up in crossword puzzles.

Nate must have walked out of the studio in a daze thinking “What the hell happened?”

The leather jacket for day 3 has me wondering what Ryan will break out for the after lunch game. If Dana Carvey watches he has to be thinking he could parody Ryan with no rehearsal.

For those of you that peek early at the Clue of the Day, today was a case when the FJ! clue was not used as it had the visual image. When that occurs the site uses a regular clue from earlier in the game. In this case it was DD3 that was revealed on the J! site.

There is a tip-off for it that can be seen by looking at the J!6 categories. If the Clue of the Day category matches a J!6 category then expect some kind of extra image or something in the FJ! round besides words only.

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Post by Elijah Baley » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:13 pm

So, Ryan and Nate both wagered more than necessary. Nate's wager set up the scenario that if Ryan had made the (proper?) minimum bet to cover and missed FJ, he and Nate would have been tied. Weird, that.

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Post by squarekara » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:24 pm

Heck, yeah, Nate was on fire. Too bad about the jinx, because he was really outstanding. Remember, kids--whatever Uncle Alex says goes!

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Post by opusthepenguin » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:35 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:16 pm
Alex: …once nearly set himself on fire
Nate: There was no nearly about it. I set myself on fire.

Do not contradict the host as even an $8000 lead with 6 clues to go can disappear. [...]

Nate must have walked out of the studio in a daze thinking “What the hell happened?”

The leather jacket for day 3 has me wondering what Ryan will break out for the after lunch game. If Dana Carvey watches he has to be thinking he could parody Ryan with no rehearsal.
:lol:

I read these out to Mrs. Penguin who also laughed.

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Post by xxaaaxx » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:31 pm

What a comeback! I thought Fonz Ryan was a goner for sure.

FJ was a strange combo of near-instaget, and a forehead slap. "Hmm, border of Oregon and Idah...Ore-Ida! Ooooohhhhh, so THAT'S what that name means! *slap*" I ate enough tater tots as a kid to feed a small nation and I never realized that.

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Re: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Cyric29 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:39 pm

Maybe it was just me, but I thought there was an quick look of disappointment/frustration on Nate's face when Ryan got Las Vegas at the moment.

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Post by DBear » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:47 pm

I am shocked that FJ was not a triget. :o
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Post by artshep » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:17 pm

Easy clue to guess, but I lived in the UAE for 5+ years and never once heard a native referred to as an 'Emirian.' 'Emirati' was the term.

'Emirian' has traction on the internet, it's just not a word anybody from the UAE (or anywhere in the Middle East or anywhere else, as far as I can tell) actually uses.

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Post by alietr » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:20 pm

Cyric29 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:39 pm
Maybe it was just me, but I thought there was an quick look of disappointment/frustration on Nate's face when Ryan got Las Vegas at the moment.

Um, yeah. Ya think?

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Re: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by morbeedo » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:30 pm

alietr wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:20 pm
Cyric29 wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:39 pm
Maybe it was just me, but I thought there was an quick look of disappointment/frustration on Nate's face when Ryan got Las Vegas at the moment.

Um, yeah. Ya think?
That, and lots of buzzer frustration from Nate throughout. Ryan, OTOH, likes to look at the buzzer quizzically. "Hmm, is this thing on?"

Elizabeth was in my audition group in NYC. She started out well! but Ryan pulled the rug out from under both the gentleman and the lady. So far 3 from my group have made the show - all have gotten FJ right but sadly, all have lost :(

I'll be in the 2% of survey respondents who had no guess on Final. These were not great boards for me, but I'd love to find EUROPEAN ART and ON STAGE in the same game. Montmartre, people!

Ugh, I couldn't for the life of me recall the Jones Act. For a moment, I thought I'd blanked on Hurricane Maria, too, but then I got there

For capo di tutti capi, I got stuck in translation goo and spat out " head of all heads" - assume they would have taken that

Funny thing. I mentioned in an earlier thread that I recently picked up classic trivial pursuit for a buck in a thrift store. At game night this past weekend, I got a clue about the city associated with Bugsy and had no guess at all. Needless to say, my friends mocked me. Tonight, I was right on the money with Las Vegas! But wow. What drama! I thought they were gonna buzz Ryan for sure and then somehow he proffered Las Vegas, out of nowhere.

The leather jacket was a surprise to see, given the oversized shirt and tie for games 1 & 2. He seems very relaxed and in flow up there - I can see him going on a nice little run, if he cleans up his game
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Re: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Cat Hammarskjold » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:49 pm

Watching this episode just before dinner made me crave some tater tots.
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Post by goatman » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:01 pm

Umm... yum-yum Instaget. ;)
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Re: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by eureka » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:07 pm

FJ was an easy and obvious answer... if I had ever heard of the company before.

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Re: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by twelvefootboy » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:10 pm

Much empathy for Nate. I don't know if he couldn't get in, or chose to stay clam so Ryan could drive into the ditch again. How Ryan turned it on from wild guesses to measured responses on hard questions is a mystery.
Nate didn't lose the game, Ryan won it. The FJ results reinforced that karma anyway.

I first thought about the Paper Towel or forestry products etc. (Weyerhauser?), but once taters came in the equation it was easy.

I enjoy watching Ryan about 2x more than I did watching Austin. Kind of like watching Crash Kincade with a clicker. Ten strikeouts and ten bases on balls per 9 innings = there's always something going on! I wish the taped show had a permanent on-screen graphic with player scores. I get tired of having to rewind and freeze to see where contestants are at. I rewound back to Ryan's -$200 and Nate's +$10,600 position to see how big the move was. Reminds me of a certain Super Bowl last year.
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Re: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by econgator » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:19 pm

Do you really need to label the state names? Maybe make it a tad harder?

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Re: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Peter the accountant » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:25 pm

R: 19, W: 0
Coryat: 15,600
FJ: :mrgreen:
DD: 0/3
LT: Rubik

The whole gameplay seemed very fast to me today. Since I generally watch thanks to reddit guy, I even double checked to make sure I didn't have the playback speed set at 125% (my normal for YouTube, since most people talk so slow there.) I know I missed answering several questions because of the speed. Some I know I'd likely pull out the right answer given an extra couple of seconds, some probably not. In the end, a push overall.

Clearly, Ryan and I suffered from opposite problems today. He did an awful lot of guessing, I didn't do nearly enough. But then again, he won and I figured that I'd be in 4th place on the 4th podium (dividing my Coryat by 3 to account for buzzer odds). So there's that.

Quite an impressive save by Ryan at the end. I'm sure I saw some disappointment on Nate's face - very understandable. Even if Ryan got that last DD wrong, he still should have won with his right answer on FJ and Nate's miss.

FJ was pretty much an instaget. Spent a few seconds deciding if the internal "e" was there or not. Wrote both down and clearly it looked right with the "e", so I went with that.
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Re: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MattKnowles » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:40 pm

What's the best wager for that last daily double?

It was the last clue in the round and Ryan got it with 10,400 vs 10200/5800. A typical player gets a DD right about 65% of the time but they get FJ right about 50% of the time. Wagering everything makes sense because you have a 65% chance of winning the game outright. Alternatively you bet small on the DD to keep the lead and then if you make the standard wager (10,0001) and second wagers to win from a miss (0 or a little more) you have a 50% chance of losing.

Is it better to wager everything on the DD because it gives better odds of answering correctly or is it better to stay in front with the combined chances of both answering correctly and a win from questionable wagering?
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