TD 368 - PRESIDENTS' DAY - FINAL RESULTS

[SenseiCAY]

SenseiCAY (Carter without letter)

D'oh

[guessonguessonguess]

SenseiCAY (Carter without letter)

D'oh

Retribution for your TD, no doubt.

[SenseiCAY]

SenseiCAY (Carter without letter)

D'oh

Retribution for your TD, no doubt.

You're not wrong...karma is a bitch.

[floridagator]

Q. 10 HAIL TO THE CHIEFS - Name a president who appointed a Chief Justice

GEORGE W. BUSH (appt Roberts) - 16 (THAT IS ONE MASSIVE SHEEP)

xxaaaxx
guessonguessonguess
wpwells
1stlvlthinker
badgerfellow
clprez
olduvai_george
ElendilPickle
sillymoose
Tybalteon
twelvefootboy
Vintsanity
Ironhorse
AmericanIdiot
Peter the Accountant
MattKnowles

SHEEP

nklotz

WASHINGTON (appt. Jay, Rutledge, Ellsworth) - 3

jeffwolfe
acthomas
Rackme32

REAGAN (appt. Rehnquist) - 3

CVN-76
Peachbox
JayBoston

EISENHOWER (appt. Warren) - 2

Gamawire
AFRET CMS

SINGLETONS - 1

Mighty Mo (Truman, appt. Vinson)
MarkBarrett (Nixon, appt. Burger)
econgator (Grant, appt. Waite)
lefty (Harding, appt. Taft)

DROP

clt013
threearruda
sethmoko
classicroadster
morbeedo
immaf

WRONG

Woof (Adams - did not further specify)
casketromance (George H.W. Bush)
bev nar (George H.W. Bush)
Sims (Clinton)
merica (Clinton)
SenseiCAY (Clinton)


UNUSED
John Adams (appt. Marshall)
Jackson (appt. Taney)
Lincoln (appt. Chase)
Cleveland (appt. Fuller)
Taft (appt. White)
Hoover (appt. Hughes)
F. Roosevelt (appt. Stone)


BONUS. -1 point

Only bev nar and lefty correctly named Sir Walter Scott as the lyricist of "Hail to the Chief." Wrong answers: Emerson, Irving Berlin, Shaw, Dr. Seuss, Walt Whitman, Robert Burns, Longfellow, Frost, Burns, Key, Maya Angelou.

Here are Scott's lyrics:

Hail to the chief, who in triumph advances,
Honour'd and blest be the evergreen pine!
Long may the tree in his banner that glances,
Flourish the shelter and grace of our line.
Hail to the chief, who in triumph advances,
Honour'd and blest be the evergreen pine!
Long may the tree in his banner that glances,
Flourish the shelter and grace of our line.

Here is a 20th century version written by songwriter Albert Gamse, best known for "Managua, Nicaragua":

Hail to the Chief we have chosen for the nation,
Hail to the Chief! We salute him, one and all.
Hail to the Chief, as we pledge cooperation
In proud fulfillment of a great, noble call.

Yours is the aim to make this grand country grander,
This you will do, that is our strong, firm belief.
Hail to the one we selected as commander,
Hail to the President! Hail to the Chief!


STANDINGS AFTER Q10 AND BONUS:

1 lefty 23
2 Mighty Mo 28
3 CVN-76 38
4 Peachbox 40
5 threearruda 42
6 jeffwolfe 43
6 econgator 43
8 clt013 45
9 xxaaaxx 48
10 Gamawire 50
10 MarkBarrett 50
12 classicroadster 51
13 guessonguessonguess 52
13 acthomas 52
15 wpwells 56
15 sethmoko 56
17 Woof 57
17 JayBoston 57
19 ElendilPickle 64
20 1stlvlthinker 65
20 AFRET CMS 65
22 casketromance 66
22 clprez 66
22 Rackme32 66
25 nklotz 67
26 badgerfellow 68
27 morbeedo 69
28 sillymoose 72
28 Vintsanity 72
30 bev nar 73
31 olduvai_george 74
32 immaf 77
33 Sims 80
34 Tybalteon 81
35 Ironhorse 83
36 AmericanIdiot 85
37 twelvefootboy 86
38 Peter the Accountant 89
39 merica 91
40 MattKnowles 92
41 SenseiCAY 97

[twelvefootboy]

Thank you, FloridaGator for putting this one together. It was informative and interesting. Each question had good softballs, Ykioyds, and a whiff of negbait. Maybe next time I'll remember Ike isn't a "modern" president, just because I remember him . Now I've gotta go chase kids off my lawn

[floridagator]

It isn't over yet.

[Woof]

I am going to object most strenuously to your q10 ruling. I freely admit that my response of Adams was ambiguous but your decision to neg me rather than asking for a BMS is just plain punitive. I submitted my responses early, providing you with plenty of time to BMS me. Since Adams was a perfectly correct response, I would have BMSd in your place. Your game, your rules, I realize, but that decision leaves a foul taste in my mouth.

[floridagator]

I am going to object most strenuously to your q10 ruling. I freely admit that my response of Adams was ambiguous but your decision to neg me rather than asking for a BMS is just plain punitive. I submitted my responses early, providing you with plenty of time to BMS me. Since Adams was a perfectly correct response, I would have BMSd in your place. Your game, your rules, I realize, but that decision leaves a foul taste in my mouth.

I don't read the responses until it's time to start the reveal. BMS is not a thing in TD. The header instructions for the game said that first names were necessary for presidents with the same name. Full credit would have been given for John Adams. To be extra careful, I would have said John Adams, the 2nd president. I suspect this would not have engendered a protest except for the fact that the sheep score on Q10 was 16. It is unhappy that the main source of points is not the sheep rule (+5) but that the sheep score was so high. The cumulative scores on this TD have gone crazy high not because there are many wrong answers but because there have been many wild sheeps.

Negging for Adams is not a close call. Another way to look at it is 17 people got almost as many points without making an error.

[floridagator]

Q11. PRESIDENTIAL FACTS

Mighty Mo regains the lead. I hope everyone learned some useful things from this question.

C. KENNEDY (brother assassinated) - 10

classicroadster
sethmoko
Woof
1stlvlthinker
morbeedo
immaf
Tybalteon
Peter the Accountant
merica
SenseiCAY

SHEEP - 10

clt013
casketromance

E. GRANT (died of cancer 4 days after finishing memoirs) - 6

Mighty Mo
econgator
ElendilPickle
Vintsanity
Sims
AmericanIdiot

G. 1841 (year of three presidents) - 5

Peachbox
jeffwolfe
guessonguessonguess
badgerfellow
sillymoose

I. REAGAN (saved 77 people from drowning) - 5

CVN-76
AFRET CMS
clprez
bev nar
Ironhorse

G. 1881 (year of three presidents) - 4

xxaaaxx
acthomas
JayBoston
olduvai_george

B. EISENHOWER (sub & hole-in-one) - 2

Rackme32
twelvefootboy

H. T. ROOSEVELT (wife & mother died same day) - 2

MarkBarrett
nklotz

A. COOLIDGE (born on Fourth and struck on coin) - 1 (SINGLETON!)

wpwells

L. W. HARRISON (rode train in year of three presidents) - 1 (SINGLETON!)

threearruda

DROP

MattKnowles

WRONG - 15

lefty (Pierce)
Gamawire (1901)

UNUSED

D. Hayes (visited W. Coast and got state in S. America)
F. Tyler (survived ship explosion that killed two cabinet secretaries)
J. L. Johnson (met pope)
K. F. Roosevelt (appointed first woman to cabinet)


STANDINGS AFTER Q 11

1 Mighty Mo 34
2 lefty 38
3 CVN-76 43
3 threearruda 43
5 Peachbox 45
6 jeffwolfe 48
7 econgator 49
8 xxaaaxx 52
8 MarkBarrett 52
10 clt013 55
11 acthomas 56
12 guessonguessonguess 57
12 wpwells 57
14 classicroadster 61
14 JayBoston 61
16 Gamawire 65
17 sethmoko 66
18 Woof 67
19 Rackme32 68
20 nklotz 69
21 ElendilPickle 70
21 AFRET CMS 70
23 clprez 71
24 badgerfellow 73
25 1stlvlthinker 75
26 casketromance 76
27 sillymoose 77
28 Vintsanity 78
28 bev nar 78
28 olduvai_george 78
31 morbeedo 79
32 Sims 86
33 immaf 87
34 Ironhorse 88
34 twelvefootboy 88
36 Tybalteon 91
36 AmericanIdiot 91
38 MattKnowles 92
39 Peter the Accountant 99
40 merica 101
41 SenseiCAY 107

[CasketRomance]

nm...misread...didn't see it was for chief justice...just thought run of the mill justice

[floridagator]

Q12. PRESIDENTS BEFORE AND AFTER II

Both of our leaders take tumbles on errors and the former leader now trails by one point as three people mistake Johnson & Johnson for Johnson Wax.

FRANK HERBERT HOOVER - 9 (SHEEP)

jeffwolfe
xxaaaxx
Gamawire
acthomas
Woof
AFRET CMS
badgerfellow
Ironhorse
MattKnowles

LITTLE RICHARD NIXON - 8

casketromance
Rackme32
nklotz
morbeedo
sillymoose
AmericanIdiot
twelvefootboy
Peter the Accountant

PRINCE WILLIAM MCKINLEY - 7

CVN-76
econgator
clt013
JayBoston
bev nar
immaf
Sims

WILLIAM HENRY HARRISON FORD - 5

1stlvlthinker
Vintsanity
olduvai_george
Tybalteon
SenseiCAY

JIMMY CARTER WOODSON - 3

wpwells
ElendilPickle
clprez

GEORGE W. BUSH LEAGUE - 2

MarkBarrett
guessonguessonguess

PLAINS OF ABRAHAM LINCOLN - 2

Peachbox
classicroadster

NO DROPS OR SHEEP

UNUSED

Lyndon Johnson Wax
James K. Polk Salad Annie
Gerald Ford Madox Ford

WRONG - 14

Mighty Mo (Lyndon Johnson & Johnson)
threearruda (Lyndon Johnson & Johnson)
merica (Lyndon Johnson & Johnson)
lefty (Plain of Abraham Lincoln - I checked and it is plural in both French and English)
sethmoko (Prince Williams McKinley - I hate to neg this but every week on our favorite quiz show, contestants are negged for adding esses)


STANDINGS AFTER Q12

1 Peachbox 47
2 Mighty Mo 48
3 CVN-76 50
4 lefty 52
5 MarkBarrett 54
6 econgator 56
7 threearruda 57
7 jeffwolfe 57
9 guessonguessonguess 59
10 wpwells 60
11 xxaaaxx 61
12 clt013 62
13 classicroadster 63
14 acthomas 65
15 JayBoston 68
16 ElendilPickle 73
17 Gamawire 74
17 clprez 74
19 Woof 76
19 Rackme32 76
21 nklotz 77
22 AFRET CMS 79
23 sethmoko 80
23 1stlvlthinker 80
25 badgerfellow 82
26 Vintsanity 83
26 olduvai_george 83
28 casketromance 84
29 sillymoose 85
29 bev nar 85
31 morbeedo 87
32 Sims 93
33 immaf 94
34 twelvefootboy 96
34 Tybalteon 96
36 Ironhorse 97
37 AmericanIdiot 99
38 MattKnowles 101
39 Peter the Accountant 107
40 SenseiCAY 112
41 merica 115

[Peter the accountant]

I didn't Sheep!!! Had to make do with the almost sheep answer. Watch out SenseiCAY. I'm gunning for your spot!

On the plus side, I have no wrong answers. Yet.

[Category 13]

WRONG - 14

Mighty Mo (Lyndon Johnson & Johnson)
threearruda (Lyndon Johnson & Johnson)
merica (Lyndon Johnson & Johnson)

gaaack!

[floridagator]

Q13. BOOKS BY PRESIDENTS

And Peachbox takes the lead! This is the last regular question. The TD will wrap up when the 6-part bonus question is scored, which might be tonight or might be tomorrow.

KENNEDY (Profiles In Courage) - 8 (SHEEP)

clt013
clprez
Rackme32
bev nar
Tybalteon
Ironhorse
merica
MattKnowles

OBAMA (Dreams from My Father) - 7

wpwells
1stlvlthinker
casketromance
badgerfellow
morbeedo
Sims
SenseiCAY

TRUMP (The Art of the Deal) - 7

threearruda
econgator
xxaaaxx
classicroadster
sethmoko
sillymoose
Peter the Accountant

NIXON (Six Crises) - 5

lefty
Gamawire
Woof
AFRET CMS
immaf

HOOVER (Principles of Mining) - 4

acthomas
Vintsanity
olduvai_george
AmericanIdiot

SINGLETONS - 1

Mighty Mo (FORD - Portrait of the Assassin)
jeffwolfe (JEFFERSON - Manual of Parliamentary Procedure)
CVN-76 (REAGAN - Where's the Rest of Me)
ElendilPickle (T. ROOSEVELT - History of New York City)

DROP

Peachbox
MarkBarrett
guessonguessonguess
JayBoston
twelvefootboy

WRONG - 13

nklotz (George W. Bush)

NO SHEEP

UNUSED

J.Q. ADAMS (Reply to Paine's Rights of Man)
WILSON (Congressional Government)
TAFT (Liberty Under Law)


STANDINGS AFTER Q13

1 Peachbox 47
2 Mighty Mo 49
3 CVN-76 51
4 MarkBarrett 54
5 lefty 57
6 jeffwolfe 58
7 guessonguessonguess 59
8 econgator 63
9 threearruda 64
10 wpwells 67
11 xxaaaxx 68
11 JayBoston 68
13 acthomas 69
14 clt013 70
14 classicroadster 70
16 ElendilPickle 74
17 Gamawire 79
18 Woof 81
19 clprez 82
20 Rackme32 84
20 AFRET CMS 84
22 1stlvlthinker 87
22 sethmoko 87
22 Vintsanity 87
22 olduvai_george 87
26 badgerfellow 89
27 nklotz 90
28 casketromance 91
29 sillymoose 92
30 bev nar 93
31 morbeedo 94
32 twelvefootboy 96
33 immaf 99
34 Sims 100
35 AmericanIdiot 103
36 Tybalteon 104
37 Ironhorse 105
38 MattKnowles 109
39 Peter the Accountant 114
40 SenseiCAY 119
41 merica 123

[Peter the accountant]

Good news: Answered all 13 questions with no wrong answers, no drops, and no sheep. First time I've done that.
Bad news: selected 7 sheep answers, plus 4 more that were right next to the sheep.

[floridagator]

Good news: Answered all 13 questions with no wrong answers, no drops, and no sheep. First time I've done that.
Bad news: selected 7 sheep answers, plus 4 more that were right next to the sheep.

You should have used your drop. That would have reduced your score by 1-16 points. Some TDs have a rule where you get a bonus if you don't use a drop or a sheep, but this was not one of those.

[floridagator]

AND THE WINNER IS....

PEACHBOX!!!!

Congratulations to Peachbox, who was robbed on two earlier TDs where she was leading when the TD host left the reveals unfinished.

Thank you to all who played. This was fun to write and reveal.

Here are the answers to the bonus questions and the number of people who got it right. Honorable mentions to wpwells and gamawire for being the only ones to accrue six bonus points.

A. Nixon (resigned), 37
B. Carter (born in hospital), 12
C. Jefferson (sworn in in Washington), 13
D. Nixon (space launch), 3
No one knew that FDR was the first to transit the Panama Canal while in office.
F. Truman (on TV from WH), 9
G. Eisenhower (pilot license), 6
H. Cleveland (fathered child), 6
Only Mighty Mo answered correctly that Wilson was first to hold a passport while in office.
J. Taft, 20 (a fact well known among baseball fans who might not otherwise know much prexy trivia)
K. Lincoln (patent), 10
No one knew that Polk was the first president photographed while in office.
M. Harding (he and wife died during his scheduled term), 2

Here are the sum of bonus points and final scores:

1 Peachbox -5 42
2 Mighty Mo -4 45
3 CVN-76 -3 48
4 MarkBarrett -5 49
5 lefty -4 53
6 jeffwolfe -3 55
7 guessonguessonguess -3 56
8 threearruda -4 60
9 wpwells -6 61
10 econgator 0 63
10 xxaaaxx -5 63
12 clt013 -5 65
13 JayBoston -2 66
14 acthomas -1 68
15 classicroadster -1 69
16 ElendilPickle -4 70
17 Gamawire -6 73
18 Woof -3 78
19 clprez -3 79
19 Rackme32 -5 79
21 AFRET CMS -2 82
21 Vintsanity -5 82
23 1stlvlthinker -3 84
24 olduvai_george -2 85
25 sethmoko -1 86
25 badgerfellow -3 86
27 casketromance -4 87
28 nklotz -1 89
28 bev nar -4 89
30 sillymoose -2 90
31 morbeedo 0 94
32 twelvefootboy -1 95
33 immaf -2 97
34 Sims -1 99
35 AmericanIdiot -3 100
36 Ironhorse -4 101
37 Tybalteon -2 102
38 MattKnowles -1 108
39 Peter the Accountant -1 113
40 SenseiCAY -2 117
41 merica -3 120

[threearruda]

Thanks for hosting floridagator! This one was a lot of fun - presidential trivia is right up my alley most of the time. Happy to finish in the top ten with a couple singletons to boot. Congrats to Peachbox for winning as well!

[Peter the accountant]

Good news: Answered all 13 questions with no wrong answers, no drops, and no sheep. First time I've done that.
Bad news: selected 7 sheep answers, plus 4 more that were right next to the sheep.

You should have used your drop. That would have reduced your score by 1-16 points. Some TDs have a rule where you get a bonus if you don't use a drop or a sheep, but this was not one of those.

Probably should have read the general instructions before submitting my entry instead of after.

I was just so happy to be in a position where I didn't HAVE to use a drop because I didn't know an answer. I usually need both a drop and a sheep to avoid taking the extra points for a wrong reply.

[Peter the accountant]

And thanks for hosting. I always learn something going through these. It IS fun, even when you turn into a sheep herder.