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Monday, May 14, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Mon May 14, 2018 12:58 pm

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Re: Monday, May 14, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Mon May 14, 2018 12:58 pm

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Post by theFJguy » Mon May 14, 2018 1:03 pm

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
CITIES IN LITERATURE

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
In “Gone with the Wind”, Rhett Butler says this city named for a monarch “is the South, only intensified”

Steve Mond: 14900-10301=4599 (Finalist)
Scott Montanaro: 1200-1200=0
Erika Eason: 12600-10000=2600

Correct response:
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Charleston (Steve – Atlanta Charlotte) (Scott – Charlottesville) (Erika – Atlanta Savanna)

Daily Doubles
Steve: minus 400+1000
Scott: 4200-3000
Steve: 14400-1500

Coryats
Steve: 16000
Scott: 4200
Erika: 12600

Combined: 32,800

Scores at the end of the Jeopardy! Round
Steve: 6800
Scott: 1800
Erika: 7000

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Re: Monday, May 14, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MarkBarrett » Mon May 14, 2018 1:04 pm

Out of six possible attempts at big clues Steve had the only hit with +1000 on DD1.

Erika as last in with the WC4 spot did well until time to wager for the FJ! round. She made sure Scott could not catch her, but the pretty 10,000 put her below Steve’s expected fall-to number. That’s one way to throw away $15,000 unfortunately for her.

I guarantee a woman will win tomorrow’s match and the powers agree. There is no way the game will end up all zeroes to prove me and the powers wrong.

The FJ! clue had me flailing like the contestants did. I only wrote Charlotte while mentally dismissing Atlanta, Charlottesville and Savannah. I knew I was wrong and could not put the pieces together to find the right city. I saw the movie once, at least 20-something years ago, and it was not going to help today. Certainly I never read that doorstop.

It’s funny how I could be five letters into the right response and still not spot it. Trying a quick brainstorm of southern cities did not work. Perhaps if I had changed gears to monarchs I would have had a better chance of getting there.

I like that clue for the FJ! round of the semis and too bad one of the players did not get it right to have forward progress making the move into the finals.

In the comments section of the 5/11 game on TheJeopardyFan some interesting news was shared: https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900 ... pardy.html

Here is a picture of two future J! champs Steve(n) & Kareem (and Shavar Ross) back in the early 1980s on the set of the famous TV show:
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Re: Monday, May 14, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Saturnalia » Mon May 14, 2018 1:51 pm

I responded "bookmakers" for "oddsmakers" -- judges?

I was flailing around on FJ also. After the think music was up I was upset I hadn't thought of St. Louis. Of course, it didn't matter.

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Re: Monday, May 14, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Wpwells » Mon May 14, 2018 2:15 pm

Overthought the final. I've read GWTW, but when the clue said "monarch" instead of "king" I took that as code for a queen and matched Steve's Charlotte.

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Re: Monday, May 14, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Elijah Baley » Mon May 14, 2018 4:22 pm

Surprised at yet another 0-fer on what should have been a relatively easy FJ. The quote seems obscure but Butler --> blockade runner --> southern port --> Charleston - oh, and Charles is the name of a monarch.

That said, never heard of "netiquette" - even though spellcheck apparently has.

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Re: Monday, May 14, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by BigDaddyMatty » Mon May 14, 2018 4:39 pm

Coryat: 40,000
51 R/1 W
DD: 3/3
FJ: :mrgreen:
LT: netiquette (DD), Ludwig van Beethoven (DD), lederhosen

On FJ!, I hoped that Atlanta wasn't named for a monarch and looked for the closest major city that was. I think I would have chosen Charleston over Charlotte, but I was lucky enough not to think of the latter.

Scott's wagering mistake was serious, but Erika's was fatal. Scott had pretty much the perfect situation to go TDD: in a deep hole, fairly late in the game, second-row clue, well-bounded category. He failed to convert, of course, but there was no good reason to leave $1,200 on the table there. Erika was in a very straightforward four-fifths scenario and should have won on the double stumper, but she apparently had not done any studying on wagering.

Pavlov I failed to recall: Israeli conductor = Zubin Mehta.

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I responded "bookmakers" for "oddsmakers" -- judges?
That's what I said, and I counted it. The terms are synonymous.
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Re: Monday, May 14, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MDCSWildcats86 » Mon May 14, 2018 4:43 pm

Come on, J!.

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Re: Monday, May 14, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by tiwonge » Mon May 14, 2018 5:22 pm

For the FJ, I started by thinking of distinctively southern cities. "It wouldn't be Atlanta. Savannah, no, not named after a monarch. Charleston? That's it." I don't know where I would have gone after that. Maybe New Orleans, Williamsburg, Vicksburg? (Once I exhausted my supply of traditional southern coastal cities from the 19th century, I probably would have shifted to Civil War battles.)

I think this question might work better this way than to think of cities named after monarchs.

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Re: Monday, May 14, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by RobW » Mon May 14, 2018 5:24 pm

BigDaddyMatty wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 4:39 pm
Erika was in a very straightforward four-fifths scenario and should have won on the double stumper, but she apparently had not done any studying on wagering.
It is surreal to watch these tournament games in my current (pending TOC) situation. I found myself holding my breath and extremely hopeful that the lower-coryat player would pull out an underdog win with the savvy FJ wager... :roll:

BigDaddyMatty wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 4:39 pm

Pavlov I failed to recall: Israeli conductor = Zubin Mehta.
Funny, I got this but only thanks to the photo, or else I would've stayed clam. (my flashcard is "Indian composer = Mehta", I was somehow ignorant of the Israel connection.)
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Re: Monday, May 14, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MarkBarrett » Mon May 14, 2018 5:42 pm

RobW wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 5:24 pm
BigDaddyMatty wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 4:39 pm
Erika was in a very straightforward four-fifths scenario and should have won on the double stumper, but she apparently had not done any studying on wagering.
It is surreal to watch these tournament games in my current (pending TOC) situation. I found myself holding my breath and extremely hopeful that the lower-coryat player would pull out an underdog win with the savvy FJ wager... :roll:
Instead of Team Jacob and Team Edward from Twilight you are obviously Team Judy & Team Katherine this week. ;)

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Post by Bob78164 » Mon May 14, 2018 7:03 pm

This game is a draw for the Weak Form of Shore's Conjecture. The second-place player bet "small." --Bob

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Mon May 14, 2018 7:30 pm

I was really sluggish today from oversleeping, but I managed to get Lach Trash on "edentate" and "lederhosen", and got the Beethoven DD.

Southern city named for a Monarch? Atlanta isn't, so let's just... uh... uh... uh........... As usual, my brain just completely switched off and I had nothing for even a WAG. Not even the neg on Charlotte nudged my brain in the right direction. I wonder if I'd have gotten this with more caffeine in me...
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Re: Monday, May 14, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by xxaaaxx » Mon May 14, 2018 7:35 pm

For once, instead of flailing away at southern cities, my mind immediately rattled off monarchs: Edward, William, George, Charles....Charleston! I'm glad Louis(ville) didn't come to mind, though I probably would've rejected it as not southern enough.

Another day, another 2nd place overwager. Ho-hum.

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Re: Monday, May 14, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by StevenH » Mon May 14, 2018 8:00 pm

I loved how the "oddsmakers" clue came up today.

Add me for another Charlotte on FJ. I never would have got this one in 30 seconds.

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Re: Monday, May 14, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Vowela » Mon May 14, 2018 8:00 pm

Not an instaget for me, admittedly--haven't seen Gone with the Wind in forever--but still wasn't too hard for me to piece together. Surprised it was a triple stumper.

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Post by Elijah Baley » Mon May 14, 2018 8:03 pm

xxaaaxx wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 7:35 pm
For once, instead of flailing away at southern cities, my mind immediately rattled off monarchs: Edward, William, George, Charles....Charleston! I'm glad Louis(ville) didn't come to mind, though I probably would've rejected it as not southern enough.

Another day, another 2nd place overwager. Ho-hum.
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Re: Monday, May 14, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Howard » Mon May 14, 2018 8:19 pm

Got the final, mainly because i remembered that rhett butler was from charleston.

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Re: Monday, May 14, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by opusthepenguin » Mon May 14, 2018 8:23 pm

Ouch. Erika. Dang.

Should've been a BMS on Long. Huey's the most famous, but it's not like he's the only one. Most notably, there's also Huey's brother Earl--45th governor of LA (Huey was 40th) and famous for his dalliance with New Orleans stripper Blaze Starr.

Ran Super Conductors, but that's a field where I have deeper than J!-level knowledge. I happened to know that Wagner and Verdi were exact contemporaries, both born in 1813. (Why do I know that? Because my CDs are categorized by birth year of the composer, of course.) Without that knowledge, the clue seemed like a coin flip between Verdi and Puccini, with someone else picking up the trash if you guess wrong. I agree with the players for clamming.

The only other way into that clue was knowing that Riccardo Muti is a celebrated Verdi conductor. That's news to me. (I would've picked Tullio Serafin for that title, not that they can't both be.) But I'm not a huge Verdi fan. Or a huge Muti fan. Definitely wouldn't put him in a category called SUPER CONDUCTORS. But then the other clues included Arthur Fiedler and some nobody who subbed in for Beethoven. Only Colin Davis and Zubin Mehta really belonged.

Flailed on this FJ. As soon as the Think music was over, Mrs. P told me her response was Charleston and I knew instantly that she was correct.

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