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Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

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Re: Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

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Re: Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by theFJguy » Thu May 17, 2018 11:27 am

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
SCHOOL SUPPLY WORDS

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
Adding “P” to a word for a chronic back condition gets you this synonym for graphite or pencil lead

Claire Bishop: 9400-8000=1400
Larry Martin: 18400-6601=11799
Steve Mond: 5600-3000=2600

Correct response:
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plumbago (Claire – pscoliosis) (Larry – pain) (Steve – pache)

Daily Doubles
Steve: 1200-600
Claire: 3800-2000
Larry: 11800+4200

Coryats
Claire: 11400
Larry: 15800
Steve: 6200

Combined: 33,400

Scores at the end of the Jeopardy! Round
Claire: 2600
Larry: 3000
Steve: 3600

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Re: Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MarkBarrett » Thu May 17, 2018 11:28 am

No, Alex that was not a good impression of, “Bueller? Bueller?”

The players did not know the book for “Ask, and it shall be given you” while on that one I could have given chapter and verse if needed. I blew the category missing DD1 although I was only one book off compared to Steve who did not pick 1 out of a possible 66.

The FJ! clue had me trying to follow the instructions. A P in front of sciatica did not seem to do anything. My limited knowledge of back conditions struck gold on the next one as bingo everything fit to lock in what had to be right even though I had never heard of my correct response.

With the correct response not coming to the players they were stuck with their variety of responses. The good news it’s only day one. Here’s to someone moving forward tomorrow to take the title.

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Re: Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MarkBarrett » Thu May 17, 2018 11:36 am

After checking the Archive I see I was wrong about not having heard of the correct response:
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#6786, aired 2014-03-03 ON THE "GO" $400: Another name for graphite, it's also the name of several garden plants
#5940, aired 2010-06-11 LEAD OR NO LEAD $600: There's no lead in a typical No. 2 pencil, just this mineral also known as plumbago
#4223, aired 2003-01-01 ROCKS & MINERALS $800: Its old name, plumbago, came from its use in lead pencils
#3077, aired 1998-01-06 CHEM LAB $200: Plumbago is also called graphite or black this
Looks like it will come up again in the 2020s.

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Re: Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MinnesotaMyron » Thu May 17, 2018 11:58 am

"I got 'plumbago' on a wild-ass guess" on the poll this week, please. There'll be at least one check, I promise. I said it just to say something, with "plumb" = "lead" as the only hook I had. Archive hits not withstanding, I'll confidently say I've never heard of it before.

This is a ToC level FJ, and if we still polled for hardest clue of the year (do we still do that?), it would get my vote easily.

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Re: Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MinnesotaMyron » Thu May 17, 2018 12:01 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 11:28 am

The players did not know the book for “Ask, and it shall be given you” while on that one I could have given chapter and verse if needed. I blew the category missing DD1 although I was only one book off compared to Steve who did not pick 1 out of a possible 66.
Was there more to this one, since the quote is in 2 of the 4 gospels? (I went with "Matthew", based on your post.)

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Re: Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MarkBarrett » Thu May 17, 2018 12:04 pm

MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 12:01 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 11:28 am

The players did not know the book for “Ask, and it shall be given you” while on that one I could have given chapter and verse if needed. I blew the category missing DD1 although I was only one book off compared to Steve who did not pick 1 out of a possible 66.
Was there more to this one, since the quote is in 2 of the 4 gospels? (I went with "Matthew", based on your post.)
The full clue in BOOKS OF THE BIBLE $800: “Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find”

The incorrect guesses were Proverbs & John and Alex only gave Matthew.

My attempt was to give enough to reference the clue, but in this case did not work. Thank you.

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Re: Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by StevenH » Thu May 17, 2018 12:57 pm

I can't say that I have ever heard the terms "plumbago" or "lumbago."

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Re: Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MinnesotaMyron » Thu May 17, 2018 1:13 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 12:04 pm
MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 12:01 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 11:28 am

The players did not know the book for “Ask, and it shall be given you” while on that one I could have given chapter and verse if needed. I blew the category missing DD1 although I was only one book off compared to Steve who did not pick 1 out of a possible 66.
Was there more to this one, since the quote is in 2 of the 4 gospels? (I went with "Matthew", based on your post.)
The full clue in BOOKS OF THE BIBLE $800: “Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find”

The incorrect guesses were Proverbs & John and Alex only gave Matthew.

My attempt was to give enough to reference the clue, but in this case did not work. Thank you.
Thank you. That clue does not rule out Luke, although the citation for Matthew (7:7) is much easier to remember.

Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
Luke 11:9 And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.

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Re: Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Wpwells » Thu May 17, 2018 1:45 pm

I made the plumbum = lead + lumb = back connection, but I still couldn't finish the answer having never heard lumbago or plumbago.

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Re: Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by BigDaddyMatty » Thu May 17, 2018 2:08 pm

Coryat: 32,200
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DD: 2/3
FJ: :(
LT: Matthew, Job (DD), oxygen sensor, Jay-Zed, low-emission vehicle

I've never heard of plumbago. I was trying to pull "lumbago" from the recesses of my brain, and I would have happily added a "P" to the front of it, but it just wasn't coming.

Larry continues to be a beast. He started out slow in this game, but the cream quickly rose to the top.

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Re: Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Bamaman » Thu May 17, 2018 2:41 pm

I sought but did not find Matthew but was able to get Job.

The only chronic back condition that came to mind was lumbago. So I put a p on the front and got it right. The plumb=lead gave me some confidence though I admit I thought plumbago was as stupid as the three guesses on the show.

While I have heard of lumbago, it isn’t something I hear of much today. Mostly from seeing it on old movies and TV shows. I wonder if it is something that has been dropped as medical science improves.

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Re: Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Saturnalia » Thu May 17, 2018 3:02 pm

The only place I've heard of lumbago was in one of the Harry Potter books, I think. Maybe it's a more British term? All I could come up with was Psciatica, which is a pretty cool-sounding word but alas is not the correct answer. My brain was swimming around "plumb..." but couldn't make the connection...

I thought today's game was the most difficult of the tournament in general.

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Re: Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by AFRET CMS » Thu May 17, 2018 4:14 pm

MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 11:58 am
"I got 'plumbago' on a wild-ass guess" on the poll this week, please. There'll be at least one check, I promise. I said it just to say something, with "plumb" = "lead" as the only hook I had. Archive hits not withstanding, I'll confidently say I've never heard of it before.

This is a ToC level FJ, and if we still polled for hardest clue of the year (do we still do that?), it would get my vote easily.
At least two. Entered it as my answer on "Clue of the Day" just to put something down and was surprised it was correct.
I'm not the defending Jeopardy! champion. But I have played one on TV.

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Re: Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Bamaman » Thu May 17, 2018 6:00 pm

MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 11:58 am
"I got 'plumbago' on a wild-ass guess" on the poll this week, please. There'll be at least one check, I promise. I said it just to say something, with "plumb" = "lead" as the only hook I had. Archive hits not withstanding, I'll confidently say I've never heard of it before.
Agree.
This is a ToC level FJ,
Agree.
and if we still polled for hardest clue of the year (do we still do that?), it would get my vote easily.
Disagree. I mean, I got it right, so how hard could it be? :lol:

Seriously, while it was difficult, it was one that could be stumbled onto by knowing lumbago and making the plumb/lead connection. You didn’t have to be familiar with plumbago itself.

But I will be checking your box Saturday.

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Re: Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Elijah Baley » Thu May 17, 2018 6:33 pm

I guess the writers figured that "plumbago" is fair game since it has come up before -- and the connection with a common school supply -- but seriously?? Way to make three bright teachers look silly, writers. Boo! :x

(Pscoliosis was the best I could come up with). :oops:

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Re: Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Vowela » Thu May 17, 2018 7:36 pm

I guessed psciatica, just to guess something. Plumbago would've been just as random a guess on my part. At least the answer was perfectly guessable, but I don't really see a way to get this one without a lucky guess.

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Re: Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by xxaaaxx » Thu May 17, 2018 7:37 pm

MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 11:58 am
"I got 'plumbago' on a wild-ass guess" on the poll this week, please. There'll be at least one check, I promise. I said it just to say something, with "plumb" = "lead" as the only hook I had. Archive hits not withstanding, I'll confidently say I've never heard of it before.
I'd check that box too. Only thing I could thing of that was specific to backs was lumbago, so I WAGged p-lumbago even though I felt like a jackass even saying such an obviously silly thing out loud :oops: Of course the plumb -> lead bit makes sense in hindsight. They all count...

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Re: Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by opusthepenguin » Thu May 17, 2018 7:41 pm

If the clue had specified adding the letter to the FRONT of the word, I might have gotten this FJ. As it is, my joke responses were sciaptica, scopliosis, and lumpbago. This is an especially tough miss for Claire since she likely knows that plumbum is Latin for lead. (Hence its symbol pb on the periodic table.)

I got "elasticity," but possibly not in time. It took me a few beats to remember the category and narrow my search to e-words. Hey production peeps! For DDs it would be great if you put a reminder of the category on the screen.

I went with Matthew for the Ask and it shall be given clue. I knew that Matthew wasn't the only correct response, but I didn't trust the writers to know that. (They live in Hollywood Babylon. Their knowledge of Scripture is sketchy at best and more than once they've been flat out wrong on a Biblical clue.) As mentioned above, the saying also occurs in Luke in the Sermon on the Plain. That sermon is basically a Reader's Digest version of the Sermon on the Mount. Luke says Jesus was coming down the mountain and stopped "at a level place" to deliver it. Hence the contrasting title. (The titles, I hope I don't need to point out, aren't part of the original text. They're just handy ways of talking about the passages.)

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