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Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Thu May 17, 2018 10:40 am

Game Recap for Show #7764, 2018-05-17

2018 Teachers Tournament final game 1.

CONTESTANTS
Steve Mond, a 9th and 10th grade math teacher from Midvale, Utah
Larry Martin, a second grade teacher from Kansas City, Missouri
Claire Bishop, a high school Latin teacher from Lexington, Kentucky

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Thank you, all. Thank you, Johnny. Jeopardy!'s way of honoring America's teachers is by presenting this annual Teachers Tournament in which the winner receives $100,000. Farmers Insurance's way of honoring teachers is through their Thank America's Teachers campaign and by awarding $1 million in grants to worthy teachers all over the country. Three of the people who have already received some of these grants are Steve, Larry and Claire. As you know, this is a two-day affair. I'll wish you good luck, and start you right now in the first Jeopardy! Round. And you deal with these categories...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
WHAT A YEAR! (5/5)
BOOKS OF THE BIBLE (3/5, including 1 missed Daily Double)
AUTO ABBREV. (3/5)
HIP-HOP HOORAY! (2/5)
U.S. GEOGRAPHY (5/5)
DOUBLE THAT DOUBLE S! (5/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Claire: 8 R, 1 W
Steve: 9 R, 3 W (including 1 DD)
Larry: 6 R, 1 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 6
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $4,400



JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Steve found the Daily Double on the 7th clue. Claire had no money, Larry was in the red with -$800, and Steve was at $1,200. Steve wagered $600.

BOOKS OF THE BIBLE $1000: "The Lord gave, and the Lord hath taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord"
(Steve: What is Beatitudes?)

SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Steve: $2,000
Claire: $1,200
Larry: $200

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: Steve Mond is from Utah. He's a math teacher. How long have you been teaching?

Steve: About 12 years now.

Alex: What made you become a teacher?

Steve: I really disliked every profession I had done before, and I started teaching some test prep on the side and just loved working with the kids. And every day for 12 years, I have laughed really hard every day at work. And I'll never look back.

Alex: That's a big positive.




Alex: Larry Martin, we've talked about the fact that you teach these second graders. How many years have you been a teacher?

Larry: Twenty-seven now.

Alex: Twenty-seven. Why teach those kids? With your credentials, you could be teaching in high school, but you stay with these youngsters.

Larry: Well, partly. because I know a little bit about a lot of subjects, and not a lot about any one subject, so--

Alex: Well...

Larry: Teaching second graders really works well.

Alex: I think you know a lot about many things.

Larry: Well, thank you.

Alex: As demonstrated on our program, so good for you.




Alex: Claire Bishop, you're the Latin teacher and scholar.

Claire: That's me.

Alex: Did you excel at Latin when you attended school?

Claire: I did. I first took it in seventh grade, in middle school. It was required for all the students, and then I liked it so much, I chose to take it in high school.

Alex: But why become a Latin teacher? There are so many jobs available to you, other subjects.

Claire: Well, I have always been really interested in vocabulary, grammar, mythology, history, philosophy, religion. And it's a field of study where you get to combine all of those things, so that's why I chose it.

Alex: Absolutely. It covers a lot of territory.

Claire: Yep.

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
BOOKS OF THE BIBLE $800: "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find"
(Larry: What is Proverbs?)
(Claire: What is John?)

HIP-HOP HOORAY! $400: In the past, this hitmaker of "Turn On The Lights" & "Mask Off" was Nayvadius Wilburn
(Steve: Who is Nas?)

AUTO ABBREV. $1000: It helps mix your gas with the right amount of another gas:
O2S

HIP-HOP HOORAY! $1000: Billboard listed 2 of his trilogies, "Blueprint" & "Volume", among the 10 bestselling rap series of all time

HIP-HOP HOORAY! $800: Hooray for this hip-hopper who with "God's Plan" is the only act other than the Beatles with 20 Top 10 hits in one decade
(Steve: Who is Kanye West?)

AUTO ABBREV. $400: LEV:
One of these green machines

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Steve: $3,600
Larry: $3,000
Claire: $2,600
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Re: Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Thu May 17, 2018 10:40 am

DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
THE MONTH OF MAY (5/5)
POP CULTURE TEACHERS (5/5)
HEALTHY GREENS (4/5)
LET'S GET SCIENC"E" (5/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
21st CENTURY BESTSELLERS (3/5, including 1 missed Daily Double)
WORDS THAT SHOULD RHYME (4/5) (Alex: But don't. I'll give you an example: kilo and silo, for example.)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Larry: 10 R (including 1 rebound and 1 DD), 0 W
Claire: 11 R, 3 W (including 1 DD)
Steve: 5 R, 1 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 3
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $5,600



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Claire snagged the next Daily Double on the 2nd clue. Claire had $3,800, Larry had $3,000, and Steve was at $3,600. Claire wagered $2,000.

21st CENTURY BESTSELLERS $1600: A nonfiction bestseller about death rituals around the world shares its title with this James Jones novel
(Alex: Claire?)
(Claire: What is Funeral Practices?)

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Larry who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 13th clue. Claire had $1,800, Larry had $11,800, and Steve was at $4,800. Larry wagered $4,200.

LET'S GET SCIENC"E" $1600: In physics, it's the ability of a deformed body to return to its original size & shape

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
21st CENTURY BESTSELLERS $2000: This Ann Patchett bestseller about opera & terrorism has been turned into a real opera

WORDS THAT SHOULD RHYME $2000: Not long ago & to give in

HEALTHY GREENS $1600: Large & easily stuffable, cerignola from Italy is a variety of this
(Claire: What is eggplant?)
(Steve: What is celery?)

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Larry: $18,400
Claire: $9,400
Steve: $5,600

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
SCHOOL SUPPLY WORDS

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Crush for first place.
Larry: Wager $401 to cover Claire, but no more than $7,199 so as not to fall behind Steve's doubled score.
Claire: You have the hope of surpassing Larry if you come up with the correct response. Bet at least $9,001 to force Larry to wager to win while also protecting your position from being usurped by Steve.
Steve: Unfortunately, your score is less than the difference between the scores of the first and second place players, so unless they both blunder, you're competing for second place and have no hopes of first. Wager as much as you desire, but remember, you'll have better chances of advancing to second place if you have a larger sum left over on a Triple Stumper.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
Adding "P" to a word for a chronic back condition gets you this synonym for graphite or pencil lead

FINAL SCORES
Steve: $5,600 - $3,000 = $2,600 (What is Pache?)
Claire: $9,400 - $8,000 = $1,400 (What pscoliosis)
Larry: $18,400 - $6,601 = $11,799 (What is pain)
(Alex: [To Larry] I suffered from this many years ago--lumbago. And if you add the "P" to it, you come up with [*].)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $10,000

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Larry: $15,800, 16 R (including 1 DD), 1 W
Claire: $11,400, 19 R, 4 W (including 1 DD)
Steve: $6,200, 14 R, 4 W (including 1 DD)
Combined Coryat: $33,400

BATTING AVERAGES
Claire: 19/59 = .322
Larry: 16/59 = .271
Steve: 14/59 = .237
Team: 49/63 = .778

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
U.S. GEOGRAPHY $600: (Kelly of the Clue Crew presents an image of bodies of water.) Eleven narrow bodies of water, including the two longest, Cayuga and Seneca, make up the "digits" of this geographic group

WHAT A YEAR! $800: 20 million voters could newly cast a ballot for president; one is seen here

THE MONTH OF MAY $2000: Citing his fading eyesight, on May 31, 1669, this one-time president of the Royal Society made the last entry in his diary
(Claire: Who is John Milton?)

HEALTHY GREENS $1200: This Chinese cabbage is an excellent source of calcium & vitamin A

HEALTHY GREENS $2000: Used in the Japanese tea ceremony, this powdered tea boosts metabolism & is a great detoxifier

HEALTHY GREENS $400: They may be small, but they pack a lot of flavor, fiber & antioxidants

CORRECT RESPONSES
Job
Matthew
Future
oxygen sensor
Jay-Z
Drake
a low emission vehicle
From Here to Eternity
elasticity
Bel Canto
recent and relent
olive
plumbago
the Finger Lakes
1920
(Samuel) Pepys
bok choy
matcha
a kiwi
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Re: Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

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FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
SCHOOL SUPPLY WORDS

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
Adding “P” to a word for a chronic back condition gets you this synonym for graphite or pencil lead

Claire Bishop: 9400-8000=1400
Larry Martin: 18400-6601=11799
Steve Mond: 5600-3000=2600

Correct response:
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plumbago (Claire – pscoliosis) (Larry – pain) (Steve – pache)

Daily Doubles
Steve: 1200-600
Claire: 3800-2000
Larry: 11800+4200

Coryats
Claire: 11400
Larry: 15800
Steve: 6200

Combined: 33,400

Scores at the end of the Jeopardy! Round
Claire: 2600
Larry: 3000
Steve: 3600

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Re: Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MarkBarrett » Thu May 17, 2018 11:28 am

No, Alex that was not a good impression of, “Bueller? Bueller?”

The players did not know the book for “Ask, and it shall be given you” while on that one I could have given chapter and verse if needed. I blew the category missing DD1 although I was only one book off compared to Steve who did not pick 1 out of a possible 66.

The FJ! clue had me trying to follow the instructions. A P in front of sciatica did not seem to do anything. My limited knowledge of back conditions struck gold on the next one as bingo everything fit to lock in what had to be right even though I had never heard of my correct response.

With the correct response not coming to the players they were stuck with their variety of responses. The good news it’s only day one. Here’s to someone moving forward tomorrow to take the title.

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Re: Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MarkBarrett » Thu May 17, 2018 11:36 am

After checking the Archive I see I was wrong about not having heard of the correct response:
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#6786, aired 2014-03-03 ON THE "GO" $400: Another name for graphite, it's also the name of several garden plants
#5940, aired 2010-06-11 LEAD OR NO LEAD $600: There's no lead in a typical No. 2 pencil, just this mineral also known as plumbago
#4223, aired 2003-01-01 ROCKS & MINERALS $800: Its old name, plumbago, came from its use in lead pencils
#3077, aired 1998-01-06 CHEM LAB $200: Plumbago is also called graphite or black this
Looks like it will come up again in the 2020s.

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Post by MinnesotaMyron » Thu May 17, 2018 11:58 am

"I got 'plumbago' on a wild-ass guess" on the poll this week, please. There'll be at least one check, I promise. I said it just to say something, with "plumb" = "lead" as the only hook I had. Archive hits not withstanding, I'll confidently say I've never heard of it before.

This is a ToC level FJ, and if we still polled for hardest clue of the year (do we still do that?), it would get my vote easily.

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Re: Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MinnesotaMyron » Thu May 17, 2018 12:01 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 11:28 am

The players did not know the book for “Ask, and it shall be given you” while on that one I could have given chapter and verse if needed. I blew the category missing DD1 although I was only one book off compared to Steve who did not pick 1 out of a possible 66.
Was there more to this one, since the quote is in 2 of the 4 gospels? (I went with "Matthew", based on your post.)

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Post by MarkBarrett » Thu May 17, 2018 12:04 pm

MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 12:01 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 11:28 am

The players did not know the book for “Ask, and it shall be given you” while on that one I could have given chapter and verse if needed. I blew the category missing DD1 although I was only one book off compared to Steve who did not pick 1 out of a possible 66.
Was there more to this one, since the quote is in 2 of the 4 gospels? (I went with "Matthew", based on your post.)
The full clue in BOOKS OF THE BIBLE $800: “Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find”

The incorrect guesses were Proverbs & John and Alex only gave Matthew.

My attempt was to give enough to reference the clue, but in this case did not work. Thank you.

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Re: Thursday, May 17, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by StevenH » Thu May 17, 2018 12:57 pm

I can't say that I have ever heard the terms "plumbago" or "lumbago."

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Post by MinnesotaMyron » Thu May 17, 2018 1:13 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 12:04 pm
MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 12:01 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 11:28 am

The players did not know the book for “Ask, and it shall be given you” while on that one I could have given chapter and verse if needed. I blew the category missing DD1 although I was only one book off compared to Steve who did not pick 1 out of a possible 66.
Was there more to this one, since the quote is in 2 of the 4 gospels? (I went with "Matthew", based on your post.)
The full clue in BOOKS OF THE BIBLE $800: “Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find”

The incorrect guesses were Proverbs & John and Alex only gave Matthew.

My attempt was to give enough to reference the clue, but in this case did not work. Thank you.
Thank you. That clue does not rule out Luke, although the citation for Matthew (7:7) is much easier to remember.

Matthew 7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
Luke 11:9 And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.

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Post by Wpwells » Thu May 17, 2018 1:45 pm

I made the plumbum = lead + lumb = back connection, but I still couldn't finish the answer having never heard lumbago or plumbago.

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Post by BigDaddyMatty » Thu May 17, 2018 2:08 pm

Coryat: 32,200
46 R/3 W
DD: 2/3
FJ: :(
LT: Matthew, Job (DD), oxygen sensor, Jay-Zed, low-emission vehicle

I've never heard of plumbago. I was trying to pull "lumbago" from the recesses of my brain, and I would have happily added a "P" to the front of it, but it just wasn't coming.

Larry continues to be a beast. He started out slow in this game, but the cream quickly rose to the top.

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Post by Bamaman » Thu May 17, 2018 2:41 pm

I sought but did not find Matthew but was able to get Job.

The only chronic back condition that came to mind was lumbago. So I put a p on the front and got it right. The plumb=lead gave me some confidence though I admit I thought plumbago was as stupid as the three guesses on the show.

While I have heard of lumbago, it isn’t something I hear of much today. Mostly from seeing it on old movies and TV shows. I wonder if it is something that has been dropped as medical science improves.

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Post by Saturnalia » Thu May 17, 2018 3:02 pm

The only place I've heard of lumbago was in one of the Harry Potter books, I think. Maybe it's a more British term? All I could come up with was Psciatica, which is a pretty cool-sounding word but alas is not the correct answer. My brain was swimming around "plumb..." but couldn't make the connection...

I thought today's game was the most difficult of the tournament in general.

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Post by AFRET CMS » Thu May 17, 2018 4:14 pm

MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 11:58 am
"I got 'plumbago' on a wild-ass guess" on the poll this week, please. There'll be at least one check, I promise. I said it just to say something, with "plumb" = "lead" as the only hook I had. Archive hits not withstanding, I'll confidently say I've never heard of it before.

This is a ToC level FJ, and if we still polled for hardest clue of the year (do we still do that?), it would get my vote easily.
At least two. Entered it as my answer on "Clue of the Day" just to put something down and was surprised it was correct.
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Post by Bamaman » Thu May 17, 2018 6:00 pm

MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 11:58 am
"I got 'plumbago' on a wild-ass guess" on the poll this week, please. There'll be at least one check, I promise. I said it just to say something, with "plumb" = "lead" as the only hook I had. Archive hits not withstanding, I'll confidently say I've never heard of it before.
Agree.
This is a ToC level FJ,
Agree.
and if we still polled for hardest clue of the year (do we still do that?), it would get my vote easily.
Disagree. I mean, I got it right, so how hard could it be? :lol:

Seriously, while it was difficult, it was one that could be stumbled onto by knowing lumbago and making the plumb/lead connection. You didn’t have to be familiar with plumbago itself.

But I will be checking your box Saturday.

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Post by Elijah Baley » Thu May 17, 2018 6:33 pm

I guess the writers figured that "plumbago" is fair game since it has come up before -- and the connection with a common school supply -- but seriously?? Way to make three bright teachers look silly, writers. Boo! :x

(Pscoliosis was the best I could come up with). :oops:

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Post by Vowela » Thu May 17, 2018 7:36 pm

I guessed psciatica, just to guess something. Plumbago would've been just as random a guess on my part. At least the answer was perfectly guessable, but I don't really see a way to get this one without a lucky guess.

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Post by xxaaaxx » Thu May 17, 2018 7:37 pm

MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 11:58 am
"I got 'plumbago' on a wild-ass guess" on the poll this week, please. There'll be at least one check, I promise. I said it just to say something, with "plumb" = "lead" as the only hook I had. Archive hits not withstanding, I'll confidently say I've never heard of it before.
I'd check that box too. Only thing I could thing of that was specific to backs was lumbago, so I WAGged p-lumbago even though I felt like a jackass even saying such an obviously silly thing out loud :oops: Of course the plumb -> lead bit makes sense in hindsight. They all count...

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Post by opusthepenguin » Thu May 17, 2018 7:41 pm

If the clue had specified adding the letter to the FRONT of the word, I might have gotten this FJ. As it is, my joke responses were sciaptica, scopliosis, and lumpbago. This is an especially tough miss for Claire since she likely knows that plumbum is Latin for lead. (Hence its symbol pb on the periodic table.)

I got "elasticity," but possibly not in time. It took me a few beats to remember the category and narrow my search to e-words. Hey production peeps! For DDs it would be great if you put a reminder of the category on the screen.

I went with Matthew for the Ask and it shall be given clue. I knew that Matthew wasn't the only correct response, but I didn't trust the writers to know that. (They live in Hollywood Babylon. Their knowledge of Scripture is sketchy at best and more than once they've been flat out wrong on a Biblical clue.) As mentioned above, the saying also occurs in Luke in the Sermon on the Plain. That sermon is basically a Reader's Digest version of the Sermon on the Mount. Luke says Jesus was coming down the mountain and stopped "at a level place" to deliver it. Hence the contrasting title. (The titles, I hope I don't need to point out, aren't part of the original text. They're just handy ways of talking about the passages.)

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