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Re: Monday, May 21, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Volante » Mon May 21, 2018 10:53 pm

Another West Point. In retrospect, it amuses me to think that Benedict Arnold could give to the British a place that hadn't yet existed. :lol:
At least my first thought of Fort Dix I couldn't concretely rule out at the time. (No, I didn't know how old Fort Dix or its namesake was, though also amusingly, research shows that particular Dix hadn't even been born yet.)

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Re: Monday, May 21, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by IronNeck » Mon May 21, 2018 10:53 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 10:51 pm
Yeah, I'll take under age 54 as well. I'll even take under age 34. How could 1964 as Josh's birth year even be up for discussion? Exactly how small is the viewing device?
Wow, really? I would give you at least 5 to 1 odds that Josh is not under 40.

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Re: Monday, May 21, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by opusthepenguin » Mon May 21, 2018 10:55 pm

Ironhorse wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 9:53 pm
opusthepenguin wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 7:37 pm
Well, they ALMOST got all the Bible clues correct. The writers, I mean. David is not said to be the author of the book of Psalms. Rabbinic tradition says he assembled the book, including his own psalms as well as psalms from previous generations. I'm not aware of any tradition or scholarly argument, ancient or modern, that says David wrote the whole thing himself.
I don't remember the exact wording of the question, but I don't think it claimed he actually did write it but rather that it was traditionally ascribed to him.
But it's NOT traditionally ascribed to him. That's my point. As far as I know, ancient sources all agree that David wrote SOME of the psalms in the book. (Specifically, at the very least, the ones with his name on them.) And they all agree that he did NOT write many others. (Specifically, at the very least, the ones with someone else's name on them.) Modern scholarship varies depending on its hostility to the text. But it varies in the direction of saying David didn't even write the psalms that are ascribed to him, not in the direction of saying he actually wrote the ones ascribed to someone else.

Here's the clue anyway: [picture of medieval illuminated manuscript] THIS BOOK OPENS WITH AN IMAGE OF KING DAVID SAID TO BE ITS AUTHOR.

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Re: Monday, May 21, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Volante » Mon May 21, 2018 11:01 pm

opusthepenguin wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 10:55 pm
Ironhorse wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 9:53 pm
opusthepenguin wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 7:37 pm
Well, they ALMOST got all the Bible clues correct. The writers, I mean. David is not said to be the author of the book of Psalms. Rabbinic tradition says he assembled the book, including his own psalms as well as psalms from previous generations. I'm not aware of any tradition or scholarly argument, ancient or modern, that says David wrote the whole thing himself.
I don't remember the exact wording of the question, but I don't think it claimed he actually did write it but rather that it was traditionally ascribed to him.
But it's NOT traditionally ascribed to him. That's my point. As far as I know, ancient sources all agree that David wrote SOME of the psalms in the book. (Specifically, at the very least, the ones with his name on them.) And they all agree that he did NOT write many others. (Specifically, at the very least, the ones with someone else's name on them.) Modern scholarship varies depending on its hostility to the text. But it varies in the direction of saying David didn't even write the psalms that are ascribed to him, not in the direction of saying he actually wrote the ones ascribed to someone else.

Here's the clue anyway: [picture of medieval illuminated manuscript] THIS BOOK OPENS WITH AN IMAGE OF KING DAVID SAID TO BE ITS AUTHOR.
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Re: Monday, May 21, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by mikebdoss » Mon May 21, 2018 11:34 pm

jpr281 wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 7:28 pm
Does anyone else watch J! with closed captioning on? The 'Ecclesiastes' and 'Psalms' responses' captions were swapped on WABC.

Did not get FJ! Ended up writing down Langley.
We had the same problem with KABC Los Angeles out here. Super strange because there was at least a minute between the clues, and none of the other words were wrong.

I'm a bit ignorant of how the whole captioning process works, but I'm pretty sure it's not totally automatic for Jeopardy (because there are so many names in the 30 minutes). I wonder if whoever was captioning was copy/pasting for some reason (maybe spelling?) and just put them into the wrong spots in the document. I watch all television captioned, and haven't ever seen anything like that happen before.

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Re: Monday, May 21, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by trainman » Mon May 21, 2018 11:38 pm

mikebdoss wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 11:34 pm
I'm a bit ignorant of how the whole captioning process works, but I'm pretty sure it's not totally automatic for Jeopardy (because there are so many names in the 30 minutes). I wonder if whoever was captioning was copy/pasting for some reason (maybe spelling?) and just put them into the wrong spots in the document. I watch all television captioned, and haven't ever seen anything like that happen before.
I don't think any TV captioning is totally automatic. (Some online captioning is.)

I'm a former captioner, and my best guess is a weird copy-paste error as well.

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Re: Monday, May 21, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by This Is Kirk! » Tue May 22, 2018 12:34 am

IronNeck wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 10:53 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 10:51 pm
Yeah, I'll take under age 54 as well. I'll even take under age 34. How could 1964 as Josh's birth year even be up for discussion? Exactly how small is the viewing device?
Wow, really? I would give you at least 5 to 1 odds that Josh is not under 40.
Really? I'd guess he's in his mid '30s.

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Re: Monday, May 21, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Ironhorse » Tue May 22, 2018 12:41 am

This Is Kirk! wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 12:34 am
IronNeck wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 10:53 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 10:51 pm
Yeah, I'll take under age 54 as well. I'll even take under age 34. How could 1964 as Josh's birth year even be up for discussion? Exactly how small is the viewing device?
Wow, really? I would give you at least 5 to 1 odds that Josh is not under 40.
Really? I'd guess he's in his mid '30s.
I assumed late 20s.
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Re: Monday, May 21, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by floridagator » Tue May 22, 2018 1:17 am

Harpers Ferry was pretty insta get for me although I ran through some other possibilities after asserting it and couldn't see anything that fit.

Did you notice the contestant said plumbum with an unsilent B? Plum+ bum

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Tue May 22, 2018 1:33 am

Josh seemed to start slower but still made DJ! a cakewalk.

Didn't recognize a thing in the Jeff Bridges category.

All but beech beach in Homophonic Pairs, all but styrofoam in Brand Names.

Bit on the Proverbs negbait to cost me the run in Bible.

Clue has a conservatory?!

Don't recognize the word "Lobbyist" or a "Boyish grin" either. Those both seemed far more obscure than "yield" and "praying mantis".

All but Antimony in Elements. It was there but I couldn't pull it because I got snagged on Seaborgium (thanks Stefan).

Lach Trash: Psalms, oysters, Dutch Boy

Harpers Ferry is completely unfamiliar to me. If I've seen the name before, it didn't stick. Had no idea what to even WAG.
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Re: Monday, May 21, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by seaborgium » Tue May 22, 2018 1:41 am

floridagator wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 1:17 am
Did you notice the contestant said plumbum with an unsilent B? Plum+ bum
Yeah, that's how it's pronounced.

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Re: Monday, May 21, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by This Is Kirk! » Tue May 22, 2018 1:46 am

seaborgium wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 1:41 am
floridagator wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 1:17 am
Did you notice the contestant said plumbum with an unsilent B? Plum+ bum
Yeah, that's how it's pronounced.
On a related note, it was funny Alex corrected Josh's "antimony" pronunciation despite Josh using the common pronunciation--at least in the U.S.

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Post by BigDaddyMatty » Tue May 22, 2018 2:48 am

Coryat: 33,600
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DD: 3/3
FJ: :(
LT: heard herd, Psalms, Jude (DD), crocodile, oysters, Dutch Boy

I was lost on FJ! Put Valley Forge just to have something.

Per Josh's Linkedin profile, he went to college from 2000-04. Assuming normal age parameters, that puts him at about 35-36.
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Re: Monday, May 21, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by mxc_takeshi » Tue May 22, 2018 3:10 am

37 right.

Jeff Bridges (1), American Revolution (4), Nobel Prizes (1), Homophonic Pairs (5), Bible (3), Clue (2)
Beaux Bridges (2), Elements (3), Trademarks (4), African-American (5), Writers (4), "Yi" Oughta...! (3)

Lach Trash: heard herd, beech beach, crocodile, oysters, Dutch Boy; Daily Double: Jude (only because of the "hey")

I got it fairly quickly by recalling its strategic point where Virginia, West Virginia, and Maryland meet, plus John Brown's raid.

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Post by teapot37 » Tue May 22, 2018 10:53 am

I might have gotten this if I'd cottoned to the word "today" in the clause "where today 3 states meet" as a huge clue to West Virginia being involved. As it was, I didn't even register that it was in the clue at all.
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Re: Monday, May 21, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by AFRET CMS » Tue May 22, 2018 12:48 pm

This Is Kirk! wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 1:46 am
seaborgium wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 1:41 am
floridagator wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 1:17 am
Did you notice the contestant said plumbum with an unsilent B? Plum+ bum
Yeah, that's how it's pronounced.
On a related note, it was funny Alex corrected Josh's "antimony" pronunciation despite Josh using the common pronunciation--at least in the U.S.
.... and for some reason, I'm reminded that I recently heard a joke or story where "antimony" and "alimony" were either compared or contrasted. Very vague memory; wish I could remember the source.
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Post by Saturnalia » Tue May 22, 2018 12:55 pm

I'm pretty sure I mouthed "Susan B. Antimony" at the computer screen... thanks to JBoard... :mrgreen:

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Re: Monday, May 21, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by squarekara » Tue May 22, 2018 1:03 pm

This Is Kirk! wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 1:46 am
seaborgium wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 1:41 am
floridagator wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 1:17 am
Did you notice the contestant said plumbum with an unsilent B? Plum+ bum
Yeah, that's how it's pronounced.
On a related note, it was funny Alex corrected Josh's "antimony" pronunciation despite Josh using the common pronunciation--at least in the U.S.
I've always used the standard Tom Lehrer pronunciation.

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Re: Monday, May 21, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by seaborgium » Tue May 22, 2018 1:14 pm

squarekara wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 1:03 pm
This Is Kirk! wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 1:46 am
seaborgium wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 1:41 am
floridagator wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 1:17 am
Did you notice the contestant said plumbum with an unsilent B? Plum+ bum
Yeah, that's how it's pronounced.
On a related note, it was funny Alex corrected Josh's "antimony" pronunciation despite Josh using the common pronunciation--at least in the U.S.
I've always used the standard Tom Lehrer pronunciation.
After Alex repronounced it, I actually said out loud, "If it's good enough for Tom Lehrer, it's good enough for me."

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