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Tuesday, May 22, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

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Game Recap for Show #7767, 2018-05-22

Josh Hill game 5.

CONTESTANTS
Andrew Lai, a medical student from East Lansing, Michigan
Hermine Vermeij, a librarian from Tarzana, California
Josh Hill, a network engineer from North Little Rock, Arkansas (whose 4-day cash winnings total $102,530)

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Thank you, Johnny. Well, folks, as you've discovered by now, our champion is rock-solid and steady, averaging above $25,000 for each of his games. Hermine and Andrew, good luck. Gonna need it. Here we go. One Daily Double coming up in one of these categories...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
ILLINOIS AT 200 (5/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
MUSICAL GROUPS (5/5)
NAMING MY BABY GIRL FOR GRANDPA (4/5)
I READ YOU LOUD & CLEAR! (5/5) (Alex: You have to identify the novelist who wrote the words that I will be reading to you loud and clear.)
IT'S CHAOS (5/5)
BE KIND (5/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Josh: 16 R (including 1 rebound and 1 DD), 1 W
Hermine: 7 R, 1 W
Andrew: 6 R (including 1 rebound), 0 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 1
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $1,000



JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Josh found the Daily Double on the 13th clue. Josh had $1,200, Hermine had $3,000, and Andrew was at $600. Josh made it a True Daily Double, wagering $1,200.

ILLINOIS AT 200 $600: This official slogan of Illinois honors a man who moved there at age 21

SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Josh: $3,200
Hermine: $3,000
Andrew: $1,000

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: Andrew Lai is a medical student from East Lansing, Michigan, but you grew up in Canada, and there is a loose connection between you and me.

Andrew: A bit of a loose connection, yes. And what happened was, in high school, I was part of a Reach for the Top team. And I understand that you used to host that in the past, and as well I did the Geography Challenge, which you hosted as well. So I like to say that's how we have a bit of a tie.

Alex: All right. How well did you do in the Great Canadian Geography Challenge?

Andrew: Well enough to the provincials, but I didn't win it.

Alex: Okay. Good for you, though.




Alex: Hermine Vermeij from Tarzana, California. You're a librarian, but there is a fossil named for you?

Hermine: Yeah, well, my dad is a paleontologist, so he named a fossil snail genus after me.

Alex: Okay. I don't have any fossils named for me.

Hermine: You might have one.

Alex: Really? I am a fossil.




Alex: Josh Hill is our champion. In addition to his many talents, he writes rap songs.

Josh: It's always fun when I'm working as a network engineer, and I can go into the office and I can just say, "Yo, I do BGP and a lot of other rhymes, I'm always NTP 'cause my flow's always on time." And then just go right back to work.

Alex: Okay. We'll do that.

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
NAMING MY BABY GIRL FOR GRANDPA $1000: If his name is this, French for "reborn", just add an extra "E" at the end

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Josh: $8,400
Hermine: $3,800
Andrew: $3,800
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DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
QUESTIONABLE TELEVISION (4/5)
SCIENCE (5/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
ART & ARTISTS (3/5, including 1 missed Daily Double)
FOREIGN FORMER FORTS (5/5)
GARDENING (4/5)
"END" GAME (5/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Josh: 11 R, 1 W (including 1 DD)
Hermine: 10 R, 0 W
Andrew: 5 R (including 1 DD), 0 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 3
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $5,200



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Andrew snagged the next Daily Double on the 22nd clue. Josh had $18,400, Hermine had $10,600, and Andrew was at $7,400. Andrew wagered $4,000.

SCIENCE $1200: A unit of atomic mass, a dalton is defined as 1/12th the mass of the "12" isotope of this element

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Josh who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 24th clue. Josh had $20,000, Hermine had $10,600, and Andrew was at $11,400. Josh wagered $5.

ART & ARTISTS $1600: A category in the World Beard & Moustache Championships honors this 20th century artist's 'stache
(Josh: Who is Picasso?)

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
QUESTIONABLE TELEVISION $1200: On NBC & then TLC, a genealogy show has asked celebrities this title question

GARDENING $2000: Divide your orchids to do this, from the Latin for "multiply from layers"

ART & ARTISTS $2000: Jean-Francois Millet gave dignity to the peasantry in works like the one seen here, called this, a person who strews seed

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Josh: $21,995
Hermine: $14,600
Andrew: $11,400

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
FAMOUS RUSSIANS

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Crush for first place.
Josh: Wager $7,206 to cover Hermine.
Hermine: You have the hope of surpassing Josh if you come up with the correct response. Bet at least $8,201 to force Josh to wager to win while also protecting your position from being usurped by Andrew.
Andrew: Your only hope of a win is that you're the only one to give a correct response, so bet $11,398 or so, leaving a few bucks behind in case someone wagers it all.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
In November 1836 this writer got a letter naming him to the Most Serene Order of Cuckolds; in February 1837 he was dead

FINAL SCORES
Andrew: $11,400 - $11,400 = $0 (Who is Tolstoy?) (3rd place: $1,000)
Hermine: $14,600 - $8,201 = $6,399 (Who is Dosteevsky?) (2nd place: $2,000)
Josh: $21,995 - $7,206 = $14,789 (Who was Tolstoy) (5-day champion: $117,319)
(Alex: [To Josh] No, the correct response is [*]. Pushkin. He was--he was killed in a duel fighting for his wife's honor.)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $6,200

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Josh: $21,400, 27 R (including 1 DD), 2 W (including 1 DD)
Hermine: $14,600, 17 R, 1 W
Andrew: $8,600, 11 R (including 1 DD), 0 W
Combined Coryat: $44,600

BATTING AVERAGES
Josh: 27/60 = .450
Hermine: 17/58 = .293
Andrew: 11/59 = .186
Team: 55/63 = .873

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
MUSICAL GROUPS $1000: It was a reality that they gave us a "Rock 'n' Roll Fantasy":
Bad ____
[Applause for Hermine running the category.]

ILLINOIS AT 200 $1000: In 1942 at the University of Chicago, this Italian-American achieved the first controlled nuclear chain reaction

I READ YOU LOUD & CLEAR! $600: "'It's a wonderful knocker!--here's the turkey, hallo! Whoop! How are you! Merry Christmas!'"
(Hermine: What is A Christmas Carol?)

I READ YOU LOUD & CLEAR! $1000: "'Only two kinds of daughters,' she shouted in Chinese. 'Those who are obedient and those who follow their own mind!'"
(Josh: Who is Buck?)

"END" GAME $400: One of a pair is seen here

ART & ARTISTS $800: Whistler gave musical titles to his paintings; twilight & night scenes were called this, from the French for "night"
(Hermine: What is Nuit?)
[Originally penalized; money restored before Final Jeopardy! because the writers were "a little loose in our phrasing".]

SCIENCE $1600: (Kelly of the Clue Crew demonstrates.) Dropping a penny into an already full glass of water doesn't cause it to spill because this elastic property at the rim contains the displaced volume

GARDENING $1600: This flower with an avian name is a colorful addition to any garden

CORRECT RESPONSES
the land of Lincoln
René
carbon
Salvador Dali
"Who do you think you are?"
propagate
The Sower
Alexander Pushkin
company
Enrico Fermi
Dickens
Tan
a bookend
a Nocturne
surface tension
a bird-of-paradise
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FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
FAMOUS RUSSIANS

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
In November 1836 this writer got a letter naming him to the Most Serene Order of Cuckolds; in February 1837 he was dead

Josh Hill: 21995-7206=14789 (5x = $117,319)
Hermine Vermeij: 14600-8201=6399
Andrew 11400-11400=0

Correct response:
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Alexander Pushkin (Josh – Tolstoy) (Hermine – Dosteevsky) (Andrew – Tolstoy)

Daily Doubles
Josh: 1200+1200
Andrew: 7400+4000
Josh: 20000-5

Coryats
Josh: 21400
Hermine: 14600
Andrew: 8600

Combined: 44,600

Scores at the end of the Jeopardy! Round
Josh: 8400
Hermine: 3800
Andrew: 3800

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Hermine opened with the run in MUSICAL GROUPS.

Alex: …You found your niche.
Hermine: That was the one.

No, she was correct on a lot of other stuff too. Her one ring-in error was giving the work instead of the author to set up Josh for a $600 rebound.

Hermine’s other error was reversed at ART & ARTISTS $800: Whistler gave musical titles to his paintings; twilight & night scenes were call this, from the French for “night”

Hermine gave nuit and Josh rebounded the expected response of nocturne. The judges erased the neg, but she did not get a correct response for it.

I READ YOU LOUD & CLEAR! $1000: “’Only two kinds of daughters,’ she shouted in Chinese. ‘Those who are obedient and those who follow their own mind!’”

Josh went the wrong way and Andrew rebounded it. For a lesser value I would have tossed the coin while for bottom box I stayed calm.

The FJ! clue responses (wrong & right) were the three names I had in play. I did not have the common sense to pick the right guy as I kept it simple going for the level one name instead of going up the ladder. It’s my own fault as I should by now have a better grasp on identifying book publishing years and death year ranges.

For example:
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#7536, aired 2017-05-22 RUSSIAN CULTURE $2000: The "Father of Russian Literature", this poet & dramatist was mortally wounded in a duel in 1837
#6626, aired 2013-06-10 EUROPEAN POETS & POETRY $2000: In 1837 he was killed in a duel by Baron Georges d'Anthes, who was expelled from Russia for the incident
#6178, aired 2011-06-22 LITERARY CROSSWORD CLUES "P" $800: Russian writer who came to shove, 1799-1837 (7)
#4813, aired 2005-07-06 GIVE IT A "PUSH" $2000: A major literary award is named for this man who died in 1837
#3865, aired 2001-05-25 THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING! $1000: This Russian poet & author of the drama "Boris Godunov" died from wounds suffered in a duel in 1837


#7536, aired 2017-05-22 RUSSIAN CULTURE $400: This epic novel was first published in its entirety in 1869 under the title "Voyna i Mir"
#6696, aired 2013-10-28 THINGS TO DO TODAY $400: Make a dent in this 1,400-page Tolstoy novel, issued in complete form in 1869
#6312, aired 2012-02-14 A FEW THINGS HAPPENED IN 1865 $400: This Tolstoy novel was published in separate parts from 1865 to 1869; it probably took that long just to print one copy
#5868, aired 2010-03-03 THE AUTHOR TWITTERS $200: Da, "War and Peace" published in complete form 2day. Liking 1869. Is very good year
#4699, aired 2005-01-27 NOVELS $400: Even the epilogue is lengthy in this 1869 Tolstoy epic; it comes out in 2 parts &, in our copy, is 105 pages long
#3983, aired 2001-12-19 ORIGINAL TITLES $400: Leo Tolstoy 1869: "All's Well That Ends Well"



#6393, aired 2012-06-06 BORN & DIED: AUTHORS EDITION $1200: Born in Moscow November 11, 1821, gave "Notes From the Underground", headed underground February 9, 1881
#2865, aired 1997-01-31 RUSSIAN WRITERS $400: He completed "The Brothers Karamazov" shortly before his 1881 death in St. Petersburg
Joining the incorrect response of two of the stage players is little solace. The judges would have had fun with Hermine’s double E spelling of her guy and so would the online “judges” so good thing it was the wrong writer.

For the “What If” game: Andrew bets the farm on DD2 to have 14800 for the FJ! round. Josh with his actual 21995 would drop to 14389 on a miss, so Hermine in this scenario of third place could bet low to nothing and win.

As is Josh earned a 5th win and a relaxed path to the TOC. Whether he is number 2 on the tracker only behind Rob or 4th when including the tournament winners does not matter as now he knows a sufficient number of players cannot pass him to knock him out.

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Re: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

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Josh is G-R-R-REAT!

Seriously, it looks like he's having fun out there under the lights. Very likable champion.

Somewhat surprised that no one got final today, but hey. The game was in general a touch on the easy side, and the players cleared both boards handily.

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Russian author who died (and was probably killed by someone else) would have to be Pushkin. 2/2 for the week

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I also bit on Tolstoy after a brief detour on "what czar would that be?"

And it didn't affect the outcome, but Andrew needed to go all in on that DD - he's a med student and it's a science question and he's in third place with Josh continuing to roll. But really, all credit to Josh - who knows when to go small when necessary, etc.

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theFJguy wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 1:16 pm
...
Josh Hill: 21995-7206=14789 (5x = $117,319)
Hermine Vermeij: 14600-8201=6399
Andrew 11400-11400=0

Daily Doubles
Josh: 1200+1200
Andrew: 7400+4000
Josh: 20000-5
I think the interesting "what if" game is imagining a slightly larger DD3 wager from Josh. He loses $100 instead of $5, and Hermine ends up with exactly 2/3 of his score for that triple stumper final.
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I had the same FJ response as Hermine, though I doubt my spelling would have counted anyway.

There seemed to be an edit after Josh said Willis Tower. I wonder if it was negged to begin with and then accepted.

Congrats to Josh on making the TOC.

Music is far from my niche, but I went 5/5 despite not being able to name any songs by them.

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Bamaman wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 4:37 pm

Music is far from my niche, but I went 5/5 despite not being able to name any songs by them.
Now you can name "Everyday People" by Sly & the Family Stone and "Rock 'n' Roll Fantasy" by Bad Company, right. :)

4/5 for me as the last song is familiar but for naming the group (forgive me music fans for I have sinned) I had no idea whether to go for Bad Company or Bad Finger. If I had known it's Badfinger that would have helped me go the other way.

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MarkBarrett wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 5:14 pm
Bamaman wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 4:37 pm

Music is far from my niche, but I went 5/5 despite not being able to name any songs by them.
Now you can name "Everyday People" by Sly & the Family Stone and "Rock 'n' Roll Fantasy" by Bad Company, right. :)

4/5 for me as the last song is familiar but for naming the group (forgive me music fans for I have sinned) I had no idea whether to go for Bad Company or Bad Finger. If I had known it's Badfinger that would have helped me go the other way.
I'm familiar with those songs, just didn't know who sang them.

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Re: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

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Yesterday Alex asked Josh to explain the tiger paw thing and got a pretty low-key response. Today, Alex himself entered with the gesture--he 's not letting it go! Looks like Josh is a strong enough player that Alex'll have plenty of chances ahead to get the fur flyin'. We're very much enjoying Josh's run.

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MarkBarrett wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 1:18 pm
I READ YOU LOUD & CLEAR! $1000: “’Only two kinds of daughters,’ she shouted in Chinese. ‘Those who are obedient and those who follow their own mind!’”

Josh went the wrong way and Andrew rebounded it. For a lesser value I would have tossed the coin while for bottom box I stayed calm.
Same here, I think. From the couch, I said Buck. But even as I said it I thought, nah, it's probably Tan. So under the lights, this could've been a thing where I rang in intending to give the wrong response but switched to the right one before speaking. Alternatively, under the lights, this could've been a thing where I rang in and said, "What is Oregon?"

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Loved all three players. Definitely impressed by Josh. At no point does it feel as though he is dominating, yet when I look at the scores, the man is killin' it.

I knew Tolstoy and Dostoevsky were too late for this FJ. Ditto Chekhov. So I tried to think of an earlier Russian writer. Pushkin came to mind as a possible fit and I penciled him in with no confidence. A little more thinking brought Gogol to mind. (Gogol, it turns out, died in 1852, so he's in the chronological ballpark.) Didn't like Gogol better than Pushkin so stuck with the right response. Was more surprised than pleased to find out I was correct. This one seems like a toughie. I'll be interested to see how it polls and who else got it. Besides Vanya, of course. :D

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I would have been tempted to wager 8k on the Art DD in Josh's spot. But I never even thought of Dali. I went with Duchamp, with Picasso as my second guess.

I told myself that the year was too early for Dostoyevsky and just right for Pushkin...but still went with the former, simply because he seemed more likely to be the correct response to a regular show FJ. I knew Pushkin died in a duel, but that was not going to help me on the clue.

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90s kids know that the real What Would You Do? was hosted by Marc Summers. John Quinones is an imposter!


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I too knew Tolstoy and Dostoevsky didn’t fit, but wasn’t sure about Chekov so went with him. Pushkin was not on my radar.

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Far better known songs by Sly and the Family Stone are Hot Fun in the Summertime and Thank You (Falettin Me Be Mice Elf).
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A lucky guess with Pushkin, but I knew enough of the time frames of the other possible Russians to eliminate them.

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StevenH wrote:
Tue May 22, 2018 8:05 pm
I told myself that the year was too early for Dostoyevsky and just right for Pushkin...but still went with the former, simply because he seemed more likely to be the correct response to a regular show FJ. I knew Pushkin died in a duel, but that was not going to help me on the clue.
I think it was useful to know. It does still leave Lermontov, but probably not famous enough for FJ.
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