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Monday, June 18, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:45 pm

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Re: Monday, June 18, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:45 pm

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Re: Monday, June 18, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by theFJguy » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:04 pm

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
CLASSIC TOYS

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
This toy was patented in the 1960s as a “liquid filled die agitator”

Deirdre Thomas: 10400+6401=16801 (2x = $33,200)
Sara Nies: 5200+5200=10400
Erik Johnson: 8400+6000=14400

Correct response:
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Magic 8-Ball

Daily Doubles
Sara: 5400-5400
Deirdre: 7200-2000
Sara: 8000-2800

Coryats
Deirdre: 12400
Sara: 13400
Erik: 8400

Combined: 34,200

Scores at the end of the Jeopardy! Round
Deirdre: 5200
Sara: 400
Erik: 5200
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Re: Monday, June 18, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MarkBarrett » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:05 pm

The clues with reversals:

GET “OUT”! $200 (Alex said “out” would be at the end of each correct response): I just got 3 cases of pens & 6 cases of Scotch tape all for $20 in this type of liquidation sale

Erik was negged for “blow out” and Sara rebounded the expected “close out” with Erik getting a correct response at chat time.

ECONOMICS $400: From 1990 to 2015 this annual figure for the U.S. averaged about 2.5%; for China, about 10%

Sara’s GDP was accepted, but then was negged at the DD3 break as GDP growth was wanted.

The FJ! category had me confident as I liked my odds of having played with whatever was asked. The clue quickly filled me with doubt as I was not picturing the description. In my search for where the clue was going I had detours to the rock tumbler and Creepy Crawlers.

I had another path of taking “die” to die-cast and wrote “Ho” on my paper going for the famous toy cars. Before I could finish I woke up to die being exactly that and in liquid to make it a no-doubter solve. Not perfect, but a solve with time to spare and yes, I have played with the thing.

An easier version of the clue from 2002 also went 3/3 on the show: #4100, aired 2002-05-31 TOYS & GAMES: One face of the icosahedron, a 20-sided figure inside this, says "yes"

Ouch on Sara going 0/2 on her DDs. The all-in DD1 was gutsy and even with the miss she had worked herself back into contention by the time of DD3 when a solve there would have been enough for a narrow lead in the FJ! round.

Edit: Correcting "gross" to "growth."
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Re: Monday, June 18, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MDCSWildcats86 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:40 pm

Someone explain to me the inner pun the writers were attempting with GET OUT/REVOLUTION NOW/BUT IT'S LUNCH TIME!!!

I don't understand this one.

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Re: Monday, June 18, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Golf » Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:34 pm

theFJguy wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:04 pm
Deirdre Thomas: 10400+6401=16801 (2x = $33,200)
Sara Nies: 5200+5200=10400
Erik Johnson: 8400+6000=14400
Obviously the $6k FJ wager is very sub-optimal. And in my opinion, Sara has one excellent option for a wager.

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Post by Wpwells » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:15 pm

Liquid filled and agitator got me there. 1/1 in this new week

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:29 pm

There's such a thing as a "GDP gross"? Isn't that what the G stands for? Can someone explain the thought process on that clue, because I don't get why it was reversed.

Any reason I should know the Russian Revolution was in February 1917?

I read a lot of comics, and have NHO "bleed" in that context. IMO, "graphic novel" should've traded places with that one.

Die floating in liquid? That sounds like a Magic 8-Ball to me. Woo instaget!

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Re: Monday, June 18, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Vowela » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:37 pm

I don't see why GDP wasn't good enough. I'd have thought it qualified as an acronym that was understood enough as an answer, but I guess not? Definitely don't agree that it should've been negged after the fact if they wanted "gross domestic product" in full, anyway. At least it didn't really affect the final results, but still, should have never happened.

Stupidly guessed Trouble for FJ! Die agitator, sure. Liquid, not so much.

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Re: Monday, June 18, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Leander » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:40 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:29 pm
There's such a thing as a "GDP gross"? Isn't that what the G stands for? Can someone explain the thought process on that clue, because I don't get why it was reversed.
You misheard the correction. The correct answer was “GDP Growth”, which is expressed as a %, per the numbers in the clue. Sara’s answer of GDP by itself is a huge absolute number.

Sara should have known that Euphrates is Pavlov for Iraq.

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Re: Monday, June 18, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by threearruda » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:05 pm

I generally like art... one day I'm going to get all these pavlovs down. Bosch when spotted devils was a silly miss in hindsight. Good clue, though.

I liked Sara and thought she was the best player on stage - too bad she was undone by the two incorrect DDs.

No problem on this Final, a welcome sight for my fatigued brain. :lol:

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Post by QuizGeek75 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:26 pm

I knew Wilbert Awdry created Thomas The Tank Engine, but shouldn't it have been the Railway Series since Awdry created those books? 1946 was the year when the cheeky blue locomotive was introduced. The first book was The Three Railway Engines, which was released in 1945, which was after the end of World War II.
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Post by Ironhorse » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:03 pm

I went with Magic 8 Ball with maybe a 20% level of confidence.
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Re: Monday, June 18, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Bamaman » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:14 pm

Instaget FJ for me. I think GDP deserved a BMS.

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Post by econgator » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:00 pm

Bamaman wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:14 pm
I think GDP deserved a BMS.
Nah. You can't BMS that. GDP is a thing and it's just wrong.

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Post by Stanislaus Jacob » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:25 pm

Vowela wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:37 pm
I don't see why GDP wasn't good enough. I'd have thought it qualified as an acronym that was understood enough as an answer, but I guess not? Definitely don't agree that it should've been negged after the fact if they wanted "gross domestic product" in full, anyway. At least it didn't really affect the final results, but still, should have never happened.

Stupidly guessed Trouble for FJ! Die agitator, sure. Liquid, not so much.
That is not what happened. She left out the word "growth." "GDP growth" or Gross Domestic Product growth" would both have been acceptable.

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Re: Monday, June 18, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Volante » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:36 pm

Vowela wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:37 pm
I don't see why GDP wasn't good enough. I'd have thought it qualified as an acronym that was understood enough as an answer, but I guess not? Definitely don't agree that it should've been negged after the fact if they wanted "gross domestic product" in full, anyway. At least it didn't really affect the final results, but still, should have never happened
They didn't want GDP (which is measured in currency), per se, they wanted growth (measured in percents).

I'm also accepting "growth" by itself. When politicians talk about "increasing growth by 4% a year", for example, they mean GDP growth.

FJ: Spirograph. I spent about 20 seconds trying to come up with a toy that helped make tie dye shirts...so that was one heck of a failed train of thought. Then I panicked realizing, "Nope! Out of time!"

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Re: Monday, June 18, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by squarekara » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:39 pm

Vowela wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:37 pm
Stupidly guessed Trouble for FJ! Die agitator, sure. Liquid, not so much.
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Re: Monday, June 18, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Anachronism » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:44 pm

Look at it this way... if a question asked for acceleration and you answered "speed" instead, would that warrant a BMS?

I was scratching my head over the initial acceptance of the answer. Growth alone would have been fine given the category. GDP is only a measure of the economy itself and whatever the unit, "10%" doesn't mean anything unless you're talking about comparing relative sizes of economies.

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Re: Monday, June 18, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by opusthepenguin » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:04 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:05 pm
The clues with reversals:

GET “OUT”! $200 (Alex said “out” would be at the end of each correct response): I just got 3 cases of pens & 6 cases of Scotch tape all for $20 in this type of liquidation sale

Erik was negged for “blow out” and Sara rebounded the expected “close out” with Erik getting a correct response at chat time.
I disagreed with that reversal. "Blow out" is a type of sale, just as "liquidation" is a type of sale. And a sale may be of both types simultaneously. But "blow out" is not a type of liquidation sale any more than "liquidation" is a type of blow out sale.

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