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You are the captain with first choice.  Who is your pick?

Poll ended at Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:08 pm

Leonard Cooper
0
No votes
Roger Craig
27
43%
Jennifer Giles
0
No votes
Ben Ingram
4
6%
Matt Jackson
15
24%
Alex Jacob
12
19%
Larissa Kelly
4
6%
Alan Lin
0
No votes
David Madden
0
No votes
Pam Mueller
1
2%
Monica Thieu
0
No votes
Seth Wilson
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 63

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Jeopardy! All Stars First Pick Poll

Post by MarkBarrett » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:08 pm

In case the captains need any help. :lol:

You are the captain with first choice.  Who is your pick?

Captains (alphabetical order):
Colby Burnett
Buzzy Cohen
Julia Collins
Ken Jennings
Austin Rogers
Brad Rutter

Those on the draft board: (alphabetical order)
Leonard Cooper
Roger Craig
Jennifer Giles
Ben Ingram
Matt Jackson
Alex Jacob
Larissa Kelly
Alan Lin
David Madden
Pam Mueller
Monica Thieu
Seth Wilson

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Re: Jeopardy! All Stars First Pick Poll

Post by MarkBarrett » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:21 pm

Matt Jackson was my choice for the poll and I expect him to be a first round selection along with Roger, Ben, Alex, & Alan. Larissa or David will round out the first round with the other one available to complete a very strong team. With Buzzy and Austin both captains I do not see Alan dropping to the final six remaining.

I'm looking forward to seeing if Julia will pick Ben or go elsewhere with her selection. Roger Craig could be a high risk/high reward team member and will be fun to see how this tournament goes for him.

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Re: Jeopardy! All Stars First Pick Poll

Post by boson » Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:44 pm

Lots of great players here: Alex, Matt and Ben all could be my first pick... but the decades tournament wasn't that long ago. Gotta go with Roger.

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Re: Jeopardy! All Stars First Pick Poll

Post by Golf » Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:03 pm

Is there any reason not to take Roger? I consider him a better player than four of the captains and he's proven he knows how to prepare.

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Re: Jeopardy! All Stars First Pick Poll

Post by arjavrawal » Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:37 pm

I will pick Larissa Kelly for fear of being chewed out by Jeff Hoppes at my next quizbowl tournament.

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Re: Jeopardy! All Stars First Pick Poll

Post by DadofTwins » Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:40 pm

Double Jeopardy is the round that matters. But if I'm good enough to be a captain, I'm playing that myself. So my pick is going to be a FJ specialist. And of the players on the list, nobody is better at FJ than Ben Ingram.

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Re: Jeopardy! All Stars First Pick Poll

Post by MarkBarrett » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:10 am

Golf wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:03 pm
Is there any reason not to take Roger? I consider him a better player than four of the captains and he's proven he knows how to prepare.
No argument if Roger had been one of the captains. The hesitation I would have on Roger is number of negs and how he might perform in tight circumstances. Perhaps blasphemous, but I would have him play the J! round as the positive could be a huge double up and big lead while the possible negative of a farm loss would have the potential to be overcome later.

In the BotD Roger made the finals and could have won the whole thing with a different strategy on the DDs or even better converting them in the heat of the contest. Along the way Roger did not dominate Vijay Balse and Stephanie Jass as Sg already pointed out. In the semis the FJ! clue was a triple miss. A solve by Pam or Colby and one of those two make the finals.

Roger's big weapon often is the Daily Double. That power play for him is cut to 0, 1 or 2 with no chance for 3 in a game.

To me I would rather have Matt Jackson on my team then letting him go on someone's else's team.

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Re: Jeopardy! All Stars First Pick Poll

Post by MarkBarrett » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:19 am

Does anyone watch Team Ninja Warrior? This is different than the regular version of American Ninja Warrior seen on NBC. This team version airs on USA (also available on On Demand) and while part of it has an individual aspect there is a portion of each episode with each of the three team members required to run a third of the course.

Each team has two men and one woman. While many teams have their weakest player go first on the easier portion of the course, some teams go a different way and try to build up a lead with their best member going first. Other teams might have their best two players do the first two thirds and try to set up enough of a cushion for their weakest member being the anchor.

Sometimes one great player can be so outstanding that there is nothing the other team can do to account for such skill. On the other hand one player is such a dead weight that the other two very good athletes on the team are left high and dry with no chance to overcome the handicap.

It's a different animal and yet I expect J! All Stars to have some similar factors come into play.

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Re: Jeopardy! All Stars First Pick Poll

Post by jeff6286 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:03 am

DadofTwins wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:40 pm
Double Jeopardy is the round that matters. But if I'm good enough to be a captain, I'm playing that myself. So my pick is going to be a FJ specialist. And of the players on the list, nobody is better at FJ than Ben Ingram.
I don't remember exactly where I heard this, but it may have been from one of the players involved so it could be legit. The info I got implied that each team is playing multiple games and each player will be limited on playing the same round, either not at all or not in consecutive games, so this changes things a bit.

With that in mind let's take another stab at the format. Let's say 8 games played in the first 8 of 10 days, and the Final is a two day affair. So each team plays 4 times, ensuring that they see every opponent either once or twice, and obviously the same set of 3 teams in a match should not be repeated. Rules for round assignemtns could either be:

a.) Each of the 3 players must play each of the 3 rounds at least once in the 4 matches.
or
b.) No player may play the same round in consecutive matches, though they do not have to play all 3 rounds over the 4.

Whichever of these rules is in place, I would start fresh with the 2 game final but say no one may play the same round in both halves.

How to determine the top 3 after 8 games? I thought that on Friday night the advance view of the website mentioned a wild card but now it does not. Much cleaner without it. Seems like two valid ways to go with this:

a.) The top 3 teams in total dollars accumulated advance to the finals, this seems unlikely as Jeopardy! is first about winning, not amassing dollars.
or
b.) Using some kind of a points system such as 5-3-1 or 3-2-1 for 1st-2nd-3rd in each match, top 3 teams by finish points earned advance to the finals, with total "dollars" available to be used as a tiebreaker.

Another wrinkle could be that the description clearly says head-to-head, is it possible that these games could be 2 teams only rather than 3? Seems much less like the Jeopardy! that we know but maybe it's a possibility. With one-on-one matches there could then be 9 games with each team playing 3 times, and then 3 in the single day final. In this format it would make sense to say all 3 players on each team must play each round once in the 3 qualifying games. The final 3 could still be decided by either method above, either W-L record or total dollars earned. Maybe even take the top 2 records and then call the 3rd a wild card for the remaining team with the most dollars earned.

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Re: Jeopardy! All Stars First Pick Poll

Post by StevenH » Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:41 am

Roger would be my first pick. My next choices I think would be Alex, Larissa, Ben, Pam, then a toss up between Alan, David, and Matt.

That is a fair point about Ben with FJs, but I feel like there was at least a little luck involved there. Arthur outplayed him in the other rounds, though Ben was the clear #2 in his ToC field.

Alex clearly outplayed Matt in their ToC, so I don't see the rationale in picking the latter over the former. I also think that Matt largely had to rely on dominance in academic categories + buzzer speed. I would not want to have to count on that in a tournament.

Madden has the knowledge base, but I don't trust his buzzer speed. He has a history of being outplayed by established quizzers (Victoria Groce, Steve Kaltenbaugh, Willy Jay, Bill MacDonald). But he did beat Falk.

I will take my chances on Roger, for his knowledge base and strategy.

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Re: Jeopardy! All Stars First Pick Poll

Post by JayK33 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:31 am

I picked Matt but was also considering Alex and Roger.

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Re: Jeopardy! All Stars First Pick Poll

Post by threearruda » Tue Sep 11, 2018 6:19 am

Slightly biased perhaps because he's my favorite player since Ken, but I'd take Matt - Roger a close #2.

Matt dominated DJ! rounds during his initial 14 games. He has an absurd DD solve rate. His preparation is also matched by few, considering he deactivated his Facebook account in the weeks leading up to taping. I understand FJ is a massive achilles heel, but with a little extra work learning how to solve those types of clues, he'll be fine. At 26 and three years removed from last appearing, I'd say he has the highest upside of anyone in this tournament.

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Re: Jeopardy! All Stars First Pick Poll

Post by Cat Hammarskjold » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:32 am

I picked Matt, but my second choice would be Ben, as Ben is the best Final Jeopardy! specialist in the group.

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Re: Jeopardy! All Stars First Pick Poll

Post by MarkBarrett » Tue Feb 26, 2019 9:01 pm

One bump as I found it fun to revisit the poll and comments now that all 18 players have appeared in a round.

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