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Wednesday, September 12, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

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Re: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

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Post by theFJguy » Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:22 am

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
18th CENTURY NAMES

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
In 1789 this doctor proposed 6 articles on penal reform to the French Assembly, including one on capital punishment

Lori Goodman: 14200+3001=17201
Kyle Jones: 17200+11201=28401 (New Champ)
Monica Couch: 7200+1200=8400

Correct response:
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Joseph Guillotin (All of the players had Guillotine and Alex indicated the judges had decided ahead of time that would be accepted.)

Daily Doubles
Kyle: 1800+1800
Monica: 2000+2000
Kyle: 16200+1000 (30th clue with Lori at 14200)

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Lori: 14200
Kyle: 17200
Monica: 7200

Combined: 37400

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Lori: 5000
Kyle: 5800
Monica: 2000

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Re: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by MarkBarrett » Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:29 am

I saw the reversal coming immediately on 3 "E"s $1600 as it was easy to count the Es in Monica's response and know the judges would end up taking it.

Allow me to blow the 100% on the FJ! clue right off that bat as I read the clue quickly, saw "penal" and "French" and instantly knew I hit a dreaded blank. I closed my eyes, took and breath, dismissed Lafayette & Talleyrand to arrive with a little time left to write "de Toqueville." De Tocqueville was as wrong as my spelling (plus he's 19th c.) and I never had the time to take in a second reading of the clue to see "capital punishment."

The players are at 100% for the week. No way they do it for five games, so I expect a miss tomorrow.

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Re: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Vowela » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:38 pm

I had no idea Guillotin's name was not spelled with an e. After tonight, I'll probably remember :lol:.

But yeah, if I wrote down the answer instead of just saying it, I absolutely would've added that e.

I was surprised the neg for "engagement" for the "marriage and war" clue wasn't reversed. That seemed to fit the clue. Did I miss something in the clue?

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Re: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by MinnesotaMyron » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:40 pm

Vowela wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:38 pm
I had no idea Guillotin's name was not spelled with an e. After tonight, I'll probably remember :lol:.

But yeah, if I wrote down the answer instead of just saying it, I absolutely would've added that e.

I was surprised the neg for "engagement" for the "marriage and war" clue wasn't reversed. That seemed to fit the clue. Did I miss something in the clue?
The category was SIMILAR WORDS, which would call for 2 different words, not one word with two meanings.

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Re: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Vowela » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:48 pm

MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:40 pm
Vowela wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:38 pm
I was surprised the neg for "engagement" for the "marriage and war" clue wasn't reversed. That seemed to fit the clue. Did I miss something in the clue?
The category was SIMILAR WORDS, which would call for 2 different words, not one word with two meanings.
Ah. Kinda' sneaky, but makes sense.

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Re: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by DBear » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:57 pm

I got Guillotin without the E. :geek:

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Re: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Woppy T » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:00 pm

DBear wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:57 pm
I got Guillotin without the E. :geek:
I didn’t (I said Robespierre) but I dislike the “executive decision” to accept a response that is 100% wrong.

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Re: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by alietr » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:09 pm

Woppy T wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:00 pm
DBear wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:57 pm
I got Guillotin without the E. :geek:
I didn’t (I said Robespierre) but I dislike the “executive decision” to accept a response that is 100% wrong.
Well, I guarantee that there would have been an uproar if they didn't take all 3 answers as being correct. I'd say that without the executive decision, there's no way they would have used the clue.

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:34 pm

"Night of broken glass" joins the "NHOI in the top box" pile. That whole category was entirely alien to me. (ETA: "Night of Broken Glass" has only one Archive hit, and "Kristallnacht" only two, both in the bottom box.

Mali = French also seemed tough for the top box.

I recognized literally nothing in the Movie/TV Role category, either.

Teetotaler/temperance was huge negbait IMO, since both have three E's. And they overturn "Green market" but not that?

Blah blah doctor + French + 1789 = Pasteur. Oops. I had no idea that the guillotine was named after someone.

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Re: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Saturnalia » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:53 pm

Robespierre here as well. I could imagine him proposing an idea about capital punishment...

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Re: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by OntarioQuizzer » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:55 pm

alietr wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:09 pm
Woppy T wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:00 pm
DBear wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:57 pm
I got Guillotin without the E. :geek:
I didn’t (I said Robespierre) but I dislike the “executive decision” to accept a response that is 100% wrong.
Well, I guarantee that there would have been an uproar if they didn't take all 3 answers as being correct. I'd say that without the executive decision, there's no way they would have used the clue.
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Re: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by jeff6286 » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:07 pm

Maybe Lori can protest with the claim that accepting this response violates their clear and well-established rules on spelling/pronunciation. Making her own response wrong as well as the other two players would make her the winner. :mrgreen:

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Re: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Woppy T » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:08 pm

OntarioQuizzer wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:55 pm
alietr wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:09 pm
Woppy T wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:00 pm
DBear wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:57 pm
I got Guillotin without the E. :geek:
I didn’t (I said Robespierre) but I dislike the “executive decision” to accept a response that is 100% wrong.
Well, I guarantee that there would have been an uproar if they didn't take all 3 answers as being correct. I'd say that without the executive decision, there's no way they would have used the clue.
This.
What would be the basis for the uproar? I’m not denying there would be one, I’m only saying there shouldn’t be. And I’d rather they avoid the clue altogether than dumb it down and accept a wrong answer.

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Re: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by davey » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:10 pm

alietr wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:09 pm
Woppy T wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:00 pm
DBear wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:57 pm
I got Guillotin without the E. :geek:
I didn’t (I said Robespierre) but I dislike the “executive decision” to accept a response that is 100% wrong.
Well, I guarantee that there would have been an uproar if they didn't take all 3 answers as being correct. I'd say that without the executive decision, there's no way they would have used the clue.
Even besides that, it was an easy decision. Spelling doesn't count on J! Guillotin could very well take an e, if you don't know the rules of French pronunciation.
I wavered over the spelling myself, but included the e, so I'm grateful... :D
Doesn't adding a wrong letter here make it only 10% wrong?.. ;) .
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Re: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by jeff6286 » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:13 pm

The easy way to fix this would have been to ask for the device, rather than his name.

In 1789 this doctor proposed 6 articles on penal reform to the French Assembly, including one on capital punishment

becomes

In 1789 the French Assembly received a proposal of 6 articles on penal reform, including one on capital punishment, from a doctor now famously associated with this invention

I don't know if that works with the FJ clue length, I'm sure there's a better way to write it than I chose, that may be a bit shorter, but I think it would be simple enough to do so. Maybe it's easier if you specifically call out the invention but it's playing pretty easy as it was so the difference may be negligible.

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Re: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by MattKnowles » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:46 pm

I guessed Marat. He was a physician and he was involved in the French revolution.
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Re: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Linear Gnome » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:50 pm

DBear wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:57 pm
I got Guillotin without the E. :geek:
I found a stupid way to get this one wrong: I said Guillot.

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Re: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by opusthepenguin » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:50 pm

jeff6286 wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:07 pm
Maybe Lori can protest with the claim that accepting this response violates their clear and well-established rules on spelling/pronunciation. Making her own response wrong as well as the other two players would make her the winner. :mrgreen:
:lol:

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