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FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
COLOR ETYMOLOGY

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
This word for a gem & a shade of blue derives from the name of a Eurasian country from which gems came to Western Europe

Kyle Jones: 10600-5000=5600
Rob Salerno: 24300-2200=22100 (New Champ)
Dino Alexander: 7600-3001=4599

Correct response:
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turquoise (Kyle – azure) (Rob – sapphire Pruss) (Dino – topaz)

Daily Doubles
Kyle: 1000+1000
Rob: 7000+3000
Rob: 13200+3500

Coryats
Kyle: 10600
Rob: 21400
Dino: 7600

Combined: 39,600

Scores at the end of the Jeopardy! Round
Kyle: 4200
Rob: 3400
Dino: 3200
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Warning: Search on YouTube for “maury chicken tetrazzini” or “rob salerno comedy” at your own risk. My ears! My eyes!

I only found one previous clue in the Archive that had the gem/country match: http://www.j-archive.com/search.php?sea ... mit=Search

That’s not enough for it to have stuck with me, so it has to be some other game show or trivia book that made today’s clue one when I could lock it in and put the pen down for a no-doubter. It’s easy if you know it or figure it out, while it happens a lot that such a clue can go 0/3 for contestants trying to figure out quickly a pairing for gem and country.

It’s nice when that kind of stumper does not decide the match. Rob earned his runaway victory and Kyle was gone no matter how the FJ! round played out.

Draft day tomorrow at 10PT/1ET. You’ve been reminded.
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Surprised at the triple whiff on FJ. A Eurasian country = Turkey ---> gem/color that sounds like Turkey. QED.

(That's based on an understanding that a Eurasian country is one situated in/on both continents - which could be a completely faulty, but in this case serendipitous, premise).
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Elijah Baley wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:36 pm Surprised at the triple whiff on FJ. A Eurasian country = Turkey ---> gem/color that sounds like Turkey. QED.
I 100% agree, IF your 30-second line of reasoning happened to start with the word "Eurasia." From there it really should be an easy stroll to the answer.

But I (and the contestants too, I suspect...) was primed by the category to start out thinking of color words - blue has some really fun color words! Azure? Cerulean? Cyan? Teal? Sapphire? (I hope you think of turquoise - but I didn't :(

How about blue gems? Sapphire! Hmm that doesn't sound like any country does it?

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RobW wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:31 pm How about blue gems? Sapphire! Hmm that doesn't sound like any country does it?

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I spent maybe 3.4 seconds with "Sapphire? Sappho? Wait, that's a person, and the island she was from wasn't a country anyway." Then I whiffed with topaz, wondering if Topkapi and topaz might come from the same linguistic root. They don't.

And the extra 3.4 seconds wouldn't have helped with turquoise, anyway. I've always thought of it in relation to the American southwest -- guess I thought it may have come from a Native American language.

Almost went with lapus lazuli since I remember seeing somewhere it was mined in the Caucasus Mountains. Too bad Lapland isn't a few hundred miles further east.
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I couldn't think of the FJ answer either, but once seeing what it was, I'm still a bit surprised none of the players were able to get it.
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Elijah Baley wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:36 pm Surprised at the triple whiff on FJ. A Eurasian country = Turkey ---> gem/color that sounds like Turkey. QED.

(That's based on an understanding that a Eurasian country is one situated in/on both continents - which could be a completely faulty, but in this case serendipitous, premise).
I tried your idea of Eurasian country and here are the Archive hits: http://www.j-archive.com/search.php?sea ... mit=Search
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Lots of NHOIs for me today: Boer war, Comedy of Errors, anything in the Chris category except Archer, Elizabeth Warren, Veep, and King of Wakanda were all utterly unfamiliar to me.

However, I ran Hot/Cold and Biblical.

Any reason I should know Bhutan is in the Himalayas and not any other random ass mountain range?

Got the Lach Trash on Catahoula thanks to the Bellamy Brothers song of the same name.

Blah blah blah Eurasia, got to Turkey->Turqouoise before he was even done reading the clue.
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TenPoundHammer wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:34 pm Lots of NHOIs for me today: Boer war, Comedy of Errors, anything in the Chris category except Archer, Elizabeth Warren, Veep, and King of Wakanda were all utterly unfamiliar to me.

However, I ran Hot/Cold and Biblical.

Any reason I should know Bhutan is in the Himalayas and not any other random ass mountain range?

Got the Lach Trash on Catahoula thanks to the Bellamy Brothers song of the same name.

Blah blah blah Eurasia, got to Turkey->Turqouoise before he was even done reading the clue.
how many mountain ranges in asia can you name?
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I WISH I could be unfamiliar with Fauxcahontas... :lol:

Started w/Prussian, got to Turquoise in time.

And THAT is how you beat a multi-day champion.
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CasketRomance wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:48 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:34 pm Lots of NHOIs for me today: Boer war, Comedy of Errors, anything in the Chris category except Archer, Elizabeth Warren, Veep, and King of Wakanda were all utterly unfamiliar to me.

However, I ran Hot/Cold and Biblical.

Any reason I should know Bhutan is in the Himalayas and not any other random ass mountain range?

Got the Lach Trash on Catahoula thanks to the Bellamy Brothers song of the same name.

Blah blah blah Eurasia, got to Turkey->Turqouoise before he was even done reading the clue.
how many mountain ranges in asia can you name?
Where in the clue did it even say Asia? OH WAIT IT DIDN'T.

"The 750,000 people of Bhutan live in these mountains, which include the 24,800-foot Gangkar Puensum."

Bhutan is a very very very very very very very obscure country that seems to have had no sociopolitical impact on the world, ever. It could be in Europe, Asia, Africa, or Jupiter for all I know.
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TenPoundHammer wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:55 pm
CasketRomance wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:48 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:34 pm Lots of NHOIs for me today: Boer war, Comedy of Errors, anything in the Chris category except Archer, Elizabeth Warren, Veep, and King of Wakanda were all utterly unfamiliar to me.

However, I ran Hot/Cold and Biblical.

Any reason I should know Bhutan is in the Himalayas and not any other random ass mountain range?

Got the Lach Trash on Catahoula thanks to the Bellamy Brothers song of the same name.

Blah blah blah Eurasia, got to Turkey->Turqouoise before he was even done reading the clue.
how many mountain ranges in asia can you name?
Where in the clue did it even say Asia? OH WAIT IT DIDN'T.

"The 750,000 people of Bhutan live in these mountains, which include the 24,800-foot Gangkar Puensum."

Bhutan is a very very very very very very very obscure country that seems to have had no sociopolitical impact on the world, ever. It could be in Europe, Asia, Africa, or Jupiter for all I know.
i know it didn't say asia...but it is a known asian country...plus it is was in the top box....even if one didn't know it was in asia, what other mountain range would it be in? the alps? one would have heard of that as a country since the world is euro centric...andes? doesn't sound so south american....so by default himalayas should have been a gimme...sometimes you make this game too difficult when it comes to the top box
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CasketRomance wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:02 pm i know it didn't say asia...but it is a known asian country...plus it is was in the top box....even if one didn't know it was in asia, what other mountain range would it be in? the alps?
Literally any of these.
CasketRomance wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:02 pmone would have heard of that as a country since the world is euro centric...andes? doesn't sound so south american....so by default himalayas should have been a gimme...sometimes you make this game too difficult when it comes to the top box
"Sounds like" is literally the worst TOM ever.
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Rob was visibly flustered with the signaling device during the first segment. I think it was more to do with Kyle's superior timing, but Rob turned it around nicely in the DJ round. It was like Kyle just finally ran out of steam but I wonder if the board yeilded less than favorable categories for him.
Good to see Rob win a pile but I'm not sure he'll have the staying power.
DBear wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:51 pm I WISH I could be unfamiliar with Fauxcahontas... :lol:
I precalled she would be one of the clues and BAM, right out of the gate...
Also had a strong hunch Pelosi and Bernie would show up. J! you're so predictable.
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How many Eurasian countries can you name?

And please take the Bhutan discussion to the appropriate thread. Thanks.
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TenPoundHammer wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:34 pm Lots of NHOIs for me today: Boer war
That's the third time you've never heard of it.
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Only two countries I would describe as "Eurasian" - Russia and Turkey. Boom, done.

Dino used to be a LLama. He came in third on my Mission: Impossible 1DS, which was notoriously difficult (he was the only person other than RautY to get all 12 correct). IIRC, his QPct was pretty high - like > 90%. He stopped playing between LL69 and LL70 and is now listed as "no longer active".
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Category 13 wrote: Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:01 pm It was like Kyle just finally ran out of steam but I wonder if the board yeilded less than favorable categories for him.
If so, he wouldn’t be alone. Bible and TV are my very weakest common categories, and to be confronted with both in DJ is the one scenario I dread happening under the lights. Of course, I could be proactive and learn the Bible a little better... and really, today’s clues weren’t too bad; that DD was quite deducible. (OTOH, I whiffed on the San Marino DD, despite it being my immediate thought; that 60 million population figure made me think of France and therefore fixate on Monaco, which is of course not completely surrounded.)

Anyway, I get to finally check the 5/5 box tomorrow, so I can’t complain too much. Like Mark, I’d heard that fact somewhere in a trivia game or something; otherwise, I might have been in more trouble.
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