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Thursday, October 11, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Archivists » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:56 pm

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Re: Thursday, October 11, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

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Post by theFJguy » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:58 pm

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
BROADWAY MUSICALS

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
The title of this 1947 Lerner & Loewe musical may come from the construction seen here
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Alex Schmidt: 19900+8101=28001 (4x = $92,880)
Patrick Wyman: 14000-2200=11800
Kristina Johnson: 8000-6001=1999

Correct response:
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Brigadoon (Patrick – A Roman arch) (Kristina – Bridge Over Troubled Wa)

Daily Doubles
Patrick: 3200-1600
Alex: 12800+1500
Patrick: 4400+4400

Coryats
Alex: 20000
Patrick: 12800
Kristina: 8000

Combined: 40,800

Scores at the end of the Jeopardy! Round
Alex: 4400
Patrick: 4800
Kristina: 3600

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Re: Thursday, October 11, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by MarkBarrett » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:59 pm

Did the writers purposely intend the misdirection with the clue prior to DD1 being something on water and making me once again thinking water when I saw “craft” & “knots” in the wording? I was at sea to switch gears to the intended type of craft.

Champ Alex allowed the game to get a bit away from him after DD2 when he led 14300 to 5600 to 3200 with 18 clues (16 of which were revealed) remaining. The runaway turned into a 2/3rds with Patrick ready to pounce if the FJ! clue had been a TS.

Instead Alex had the sole solve to put himself of the middle of the ToC list.

The FJ! clue having the visual meant the NYT clue of the day came instead from a regular clue. In this instance it was DD3.

Even though I think of BROADWAY MUSICALS as neutral for me as a category, my LL of .744 indicates I should have the glass more than half full. When I saw the clue and image I had an insta-50:50 as My Fair Lady was out (in my mind the writers can’t be that crazy) due to the Pygmalion clue from a few weeks back.

Left with choice B or choice C I went the right way as nothing was steering me towards King Arthur. Someone with better stage knowledge would have an easier time with 1960 not close to 1947.

Patrick and Kristina with their responses showed how wide open it was for a wrong guess as the clue and the image don’t really have a lot to go on. The slightly more helpful path was to have three titles at the ready just off the common L&L works that J! likes to use.

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Re: Thursday, October 11, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by AFRET CMS » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:33 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:59 pm

The FJ! clue having the visual meant the NYT clue of the day came instead from a regular clue. In this instance it was DD3.

Even though I think of BROADWAY MUSICALS as neutral for me as a category, my LL of .744 indicates I should have the glass more than half full. When I saw the clue and image I had an insta-50:50 as My Fair Lady was out (in my mind the writers can’t be that crazy) due to the Pygmalion clue from a few weeks back.
I was a stagehand when my high school put on the musical. My younger sister saw some of the notes and stage directions at home, and used a soft G to ask "What is "Bridge-adoon" about?".

That was in 1968 or '69 -- but it still led to an immediate response.
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Re: Thursday, October 11, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Elijah Baley » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:48 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:59 pm

Patrick and Kristina with their responses showed how wide open it was for a wrong guess as the clue and the image don’t really have a lot to go on. The slightly more helpful path was to have three titles at the ready just off the common L&L works that J! likes to use.
Given what contestants have said about the difficulty in seeing visual clues, and that you'd really have to be familiar with the material to get the connection between what appeared to be a random bridge* - this seems to be an instance where everything after Lerner & Loewe and 1947 is unnecessary at best and misleading at worst.

(*Wikipedia tells me that what's depicted is known as the Brig o' Doon - which, file under "learn something new every day" I guess).

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Post by Kenny » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:57 pm

J! writers blew it on the Edison rival clue. When I saw it, my first response was to say Tesla, but knew when he developed alternating current for Westinghouse (the source of his feud with Edison, who preferred DC), he was an American citizen. So I responded with Marconi, who was an Italian engineer & inventor.

A little research (i.e. Wikipedia) proved me right. Nikola Telsa was granted U.S. citizenship in 1884, and patented the AC induction motor in 1888. One could say he was a Serbian-American inventor and engineer, but he was most definitely not a "European inventor."

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Re: Thursday, October 11, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by JayK33 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:43 pm

Well, I guess I'm glad that Kristina had the same response for FJ that I did. Makes me feel like my answer maybe wasn't as bad as I thought it was. Nothing else could come to mind, so I was just hoping that there was an off chance that "Bridge Over Troubled Water" happened to mean something before Simon & Garfunkel.

I don't think I got any of the DDs right either today.

Congrats to Alex on an impressive win.

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:31 pm

I thought I knew my 90's cartoons forward and backward, but Æon Flux was a total NHOI for me.

Ran the Stock Symbols category, got all but canals in Hobbies (couldn't get off "rivers" in time), "frost cost" in Rhyme Time (got stuck on "icicle" and blanked on the word "cost"), all but tattooing in Edison (said piercing instead).

Zaphod Beeblebrox has two heads? I could've taken 400 guesses and not gotten that.

Lord Jim = Conrad seemed obscure for the top box.

Even the "River Doon" hint meant literally nothing to me. I've heard the name Brigadoon before, but like so many other names, I didn't stop to find what it actually was.

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Re: Thursday, October 11, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Ironhorse » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:00 pm

I said My Fair Lady.
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Re: Thursday, October 11, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by threearruda » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:08 pm

Very excited that Alex won again, he's been a pleasure to watch this week! He has certainly looked like a ToC contender the last three days with some fantastic bottom row solves. Recent Broadway is fine, but don't know enough older Broadway to have gotten close; props to Alex for solving a tough clue.

Sort of surprised to find out there are roughly 30 states that have a Rite Aid. They're all over New England and the east coast but wasn't sure outside of that.

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Re: Thursday, October 11, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by TenPoundHammer » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:29 pm

threearruda wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:08 pm
Sort of surprised to find out there are roughly 30 states that have a Rite Aid. They're all over New England and the east coast but wasn't sure outside of that.
Here in Michigan, we seem to have FAR more Rite Aids than Walgreens. I've seen small, one-stoplight towns that don't even have a McDonald's, yet have a Rite Aid. They already had quite a few in the state before they decided to buy out the local Perry Drug chain AND Revco, meaning that there were quite a few instances where it was possible to find a purpose-built Rite Aid and a converted Perry within the same few blocks (including my little podunk nowhere hometown of Oscoda).

They're also very strong on the West Coast because they bought out Thrifty Payless.
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Re: Thursday, October 11, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by opusthepenguin » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:37 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:59 pm
Did the writers purposely intend the misdirection with the clue prior to DD1 being something on water and making me once again thinking water when I saw “craft” & “knots” in the wording? I was at sea to switch gears to the intended type of craft.
Same here. I guessed "yacht" just to have something and was embarrassed when Mrs P correctly guessed macrame.

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Re: Thursday, October 11, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by econgator » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:53 pm

I can only name 3 L&L musicals: Brigadoon, Camelot, and My Fair Lady. Thankfully, one of those made some sense.

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Re: Thursday, October 11, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by xxaaaxx » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:49 pm

So that what Brigadoon means...huh. It's been 2 hours since the episode aired, and I still wouldn't have gotten any further than 'bridge' without the reveal. But I know less about musicals than the average housecat so *shrug*

Francois-Marie Arouet = Voltaire shouldn't be a TS.

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Re: Thursday, October 11, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by mxc_takeshi » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:53 pm

35 right.

Cartoon Females (4), Stock Symbols (4), A River Runs Through It: World Edition (4), I Need a Hobby! (2), Met. Rhyme Time (3), Edison Labs (4)
Driving Alexis (4), Unusual Characters (3), 18th Century (3), Isle of Dogs (2), "AE" (1), Exophones (1)

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Re: Thursday, October 11, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Volante » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:36 pm

Another My Fair Lady here. Managed to convince myself that was London Bridge.

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Re: Thursday, October 11, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by seaborgium » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:37 pm

I found a way to make My Fair Lady make sense: the title comes from the song "London Bridge." In retrospect the setting of the painting was too pastoral for London (and it didn't look like Arizona either), but once I had connected L&L to a bridge I'd gotten where I wanted to go.

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Re: Thursday, October 11, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by trainman » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:02 pm

threearruda wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:08 pm
Sort of surprised to find out there are roughly 30 states that have a Rite Aid. They're all over New England and the east coast but wasn't sure outside of that.
Rite Aid acquired a big drugstore chain in the West (Thrifty) a couple decades ago, which gave them a much wider presence than they'd previously had.

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Re: Thursday, October 11, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by LucarioSnooperVixey » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:40 pm

54 R
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