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Re: Monday, October 22, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by teapot37 » Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:32 pm

I was never getting this FJ. Warm-weather retreat made me think of summer and of more comfortable northern climes during that time of year. I kept trying to think of some sort of land sold to the US by a foreign country and came up empty. Even when Alex gave his little explanation before the reveals I was stumped. Blech.
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Re: Monday, October 22, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by JayK33 » Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:22 pm

Congrats to Erik on his second win. A Crossword Puzzle Master with a cool afro is someone I can definitely root for to go on another lengthy streak.

No luck on FJ. I did have an answer but I'm not sure if I want to reveal it yet. If someone else puts down what I did then I'll do so.

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Re: Monday, October 22, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Kenny » Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:14 pm

The year had me thinking of Nixon and California so I guessed on Palm Springs. Ms. Post seemed a likely socialite resident of that high-dollar neighborhood.

Flabbergasted by the four TS's on "Cowboys." Having grown up in Houston, Travolta was an easy get. But I thought every American schoolchild knew Gene Autrey wrote "Rudolph."

Ran Supreme Court, as law is in my wheelhouse. I would think the judges would accept just "Roe," "Brown," and "Citizens United" on those 3 clues.

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Post by Kenny » Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:15 pm

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Re: Monday, October 22, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by twelvefootboy » Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:22 pm

JayK33 wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:22 pm

No luck on FJ. I did have an answer but I'm not sure if I want to reveal it yet. If someone else puts down what I did then I'll do so.
? What is.......Guantanamo?

The "In the News" fit this, but I knew Gitmo was a legacy of the Spanish American War (or whatever). I'd have come closer to guessing Mar-a-Lago without the other parts of the clue. I'm surprised it stumped so many of the boardies so I think you have to know the connection to the Post family.

I knew they were going to choke on Gene Autry :lol: .
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Re: Monday, October 22, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by LucarioSnooperVixey » Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:04 am

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FJ: :mrgreen:
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Re: Monday, October 22, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by mikebdoss » Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:36 am

Kenny wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:14 pm
But I thought every American schoolchild knew Gene Autrey wrote "Rudolph."
Every American schoolchild probably did, between 1950 and 1960. I only knew because I'm a big Angels baseball fan.

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Post by BigDaddyMatty » Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:50 am

Coryat: 42,400
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DD: 3/3
FJ: :mrgreen:
LT: Checker Cab, Marbury v. Madison (DD), Citizens United v. FEC, Drugstore Cowboy, Space Cowboy, John Travolta, Gene Autry, Modest Mussorgsky

This was one of the best-written FJ! clues in recent memory. The TOMs were all around, but you had to be paying attention and piece them together. What is a) a place mentioned particularly in recent news, b) that would be significant as a warm-weather presidential retreat, c) but would be privately owned, at least within the past few decades, and d) that has some discernible connection to Marjorie Post? Why, our current president's privately owned warm-weather retreat, Mar-A-Lago, of course.

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Re: Monday, October 22, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by CasketRomance » Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:17 am

twelvefootboy wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:22 pm
JayK33 wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:22 pm

No luck on FJ. I did have an answer but I'm not sure if I want to reveal it yet. If someone else puts down what I did then I'll do so.
? What is.......Guantanamo?

The "In the News" fit this, but I knew Gitmo was a legacy of the Spanish American War (or whatever). I'd have come closer to guessing Mar-a-Lago without the other parts of the clue. I'm surprised it stumped so many of the boardies so I think you have to know the connection to the Post family.

I knew they were going to choke on Gene Autry :lol: .
i am shocked nobody got it...thought it was common trivia knowledge that gene autry sang that christmas song

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Re: Monday, October 22, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by CasketRomance » Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:18 am

mikebdoss wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:36 am
Kenny wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:14 pm
But I thought every American schoolchild knew Gene Autrey wrote "Rudolph."
Every American schoolchild probably did, between 1950 and 1960. I only knew because I'm a big Angels baseball fan.
born well after that...anybody who does christmas trivia every year should know that...disappointed that trivia people on a trivia show didn't know a common holiday trivia answer

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Re: Monday, October 22, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by OntarioQuizzer » Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:39 am

CasketRomance wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:18 am
mikebdoss wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:36 am
Kenny wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:14 pm
But I thought every American schoolchild knew Gene Autrey wrote "Rudolph."
Every American schoolchild probably did, between 1950 and 1960. I only knew because I'm a big Angels baseball fan.
born well after that...anybody who does christmas trivia every year should know that...disappointed that trivia people on a trivia show didn't know a common holiday trivia answer
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Re: Monday, October 22, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Anachronism » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:13 am

MarkBarrett wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:42 pm
The puzzle was a good one and I would not rate is as difficult as Alex made it sound. I completed it in ink with no mistakes while never being stumped for long or frustrated. For the things I did not know the crosses were reasonable to help with the solve.

The toughest thing for me was 16A: Accent sound? (4)
I'm not really a crossword solver, and admittedly I needed about an hour, but I came within one letter (51 across stumped me a bit and I misspelled 30 down as a result). The upper left corner took forever (flavoring issue). Since I work in ink, my grid is quite messy.

Yes, a good one. Tough one, though. Maybe not to someone who exercises this skill regularly. I'm quite impressed with Erik.

Was Mike sleeping through most of the game? That's a low score for someone who didn't make expensive wrong guesses. I don't know why, but I'm getting a lot of music TSes lately, and normally I don't get music right at all.

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Re: Monday, October 22, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by teapot37 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:21 am

BigDaddyMatty wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:50 am
This was one of the best-written FJ! clues in recent memory. The TOMs were all around, but you had to be paying attention and piece them together. What is a) a place mentioned particularly in recent news, b) that would be significant as a warm-weather presidential retreat, c) but would be privately owned, at least within the past few decades, and d) that has some discernible connection to Marjorie Post? Why, our current president's privately owned warm-weather retreat, Mar-A-Lago, of course.
This is the first time I have heard of Marjorie Post. I thought she was some foreign leader I didn't know (so I never got to privately-owned). Is the Mar in Mar-a-Lago for her? I thought it was Spanish ("mar" = sea) since there's a "lago" (lake) in it too.

Perhaps if they had called it a "winter retreat" (since the media has been calling it the "winter White House") to make it clear when the actual retreating was happening, I may have had a chance.
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Re: Monday, October 22, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Elijah Baley » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:16 am

Kenny wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:14 pm
The year had me thinking of Nixon and California so I guessed on Palm Springs. Ms. Post seemed a likely socialite resident of that high-dollar neighborhood.

Flabbergasted by the four TS's on "Cowboys." Having grown up in Houston, Travolta was an easy get. But I thought every American schoolchild knew Gene Autrey wrote "Rudolph."

Ran Supreme Court, as law is in my wheelhouse. I would think the judges would accept just "Roe," "Brown," and "Citizens United" on those 3 clues.
I suspect that had someone said just Roe or Brown, there would have been an awkward pause. at least. The odds that anyone getting that far wouldn't know the rest of those case names is probably pretty low so it's probably a moot point.

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Re: Monday, October 22, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by billiej » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:40 am

BigDaddyMatty wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:50 am
Coryat: 42,400
49 R/0 W
DD: 3/3
FJ: :mrgreen:
LT: Checker Cab, Marbury v. Madison (DD), Citizens United v. FEC, Drugstore Cowboy, Space Cowboy, John Travolta, Gene Autry, Modest Mussorgsky

This was one of the best-written FJ! clues in recent memory. The TOMs were all around, but you had to be paying attention and piece them together. What is a) a place mentioned particularly in recent news, b) that would be significant as a warm-weather presidential retreat, c) but would be privately owned, at least within the past few decades, and d) that has some discernible connection to Marjorie Post? Why, our current president's privately owned warm-weather retreat, Mar-A-Lago, of course.

There were some surprising negs/TSs today that make me question whether Erik is the buzzsaw I initially imagined he might be, but a runaway win is a runaway win. It'll be interesting to see how far he goes.
All those pieces clicked together for me about 15-20 seconds in. Under the lights, I probably would not have remembered where the hyphens were, so I hope they would accept a hastily written "Mara-lago". :P

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Re: Monday, October 22, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by alietr » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:01 am

MarkBarrett wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:42 pm
The puzzle was a good one and I would not rate is as difficult as Alex made it sound. I completed it in ink with no mistakes while never being stumped for long or frustrated. For the things I did not know the crosses were reasonable to help with the solve.
13:55 for me. So yeah, it was a pretty challenging one. Just barely worthy of pie.

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Re: Monday, October 22, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by John Boy » Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:54 am

teapot37 wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:32 pm
I was never getting this FJ. Warm-weather retreat made me think of summer and of more comfortable northern climes during that time of year. I kept trying to think of some sort of land sold to the US by a foreign country and came up empty. Even when Alex gave his little explanation before the reveals I was stumped. Blech.
Many thanks to you. I thought I was the only one who read this clue this way. I thought the wording could be interpreted either way, 1) a place in warm weather where people go to get away from the cold, or b) a place where people go to get AWAY from warm weather (like my late in-laws, who wintered in southern Florida and returned to Cleveland for the more moderate summers). Taking this clue the second way, I came up with nothing.

On the other hand, I picked up LT so fast at the end I could barely keep track of it. In addition to Lupercalia and the Checker cab in the first round, right at the end I scooped up Drugstore Cowboy, John Travolta, Gene Autry, spider, and Modeste Mussorgsky. Those alone gave me $8,200 from the fourth podium, enough to top Mike and Joanna and enough to keep Erik from having a lock game.

Mike played well but revealed one glitch common to cruciverbalists. He knew the term "Gila monster" (probably from seeing it in writing) but apparently had never heard it pronounced, so he said it with a hard-G sound instead of "Heela" monster. I've done that any number of times, including the first time I saw the name of Monaco (in my teens) and pronounced it "Muh-KNOCK-coh").

Ran the categories: "Down," 8, ThreE-letter words."

Great game for me except for that pesky FJ.

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Re: Monday, October 22, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by heppm01 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:24 am

John Boy wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:54 am
teapot37 wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:32 pm
I was never getting this FJ. Warm-weather retreat made me think of summer and of more comfortable northern climes during that time of year.
Many thanks to you. I thought I was the only one who read this clue this way. I thought the wording could be interpreted either way, 1) a place in warm weather where people go to get away from the cold, or b) a place where people go to get AWAY from warm weather (like my late in-laws, who wintered in southern Florida and returned to Cleveland for the more moderate summers). Taking this clue the second way, I came up with nothing.
Yes, same here. I thought maybe it was my native Michigan bias, where people migrate to Florida for the winter as their cold-weather retreat.

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Re: Monday, October 22, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by earendel » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:55 am

Kenny wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:14 pm
But I thought every American schoolchild knew Gene Autrey wrote "Rudolph."
He didn't write it, Johnny Marks did.
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Re: Monday, October 22, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by BigDaddyMatty » Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:48 pm

teapot37 wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:21 am
BigDaddyMatty wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:50 am
This was one of the best-written FJ! clues in recent memory. The TOMs were all around, but you had to be paying attention and piece them together. What is a) a place mentioned particularly in recent news, b) that would be significant as a warm-weather presidential retreat, c) but would be privately owned, at least within the past few decades, and d) that has some discernible connection to Marjorie Post? Why, our current president's privately owned warm-weather retreat, Mar-A-Lago, of course.
This is the first time I have heard of Marjorie Post. I thought she was some foreign leader I didn't know (so I never got to privately-owned). Is the Mar in Mar-a-Lago for her? I thought it was Spanish ("mar" = sea) since there's a "lago" (lake) in it too.

Perhaps if they had called it a "winter retreat" (since the media has been calling it the "winter White House") to make it clear when the actual retreating was happening, I may have had a chance.
The official line is that the resort is so named because it reaches from Palm Beach (mar) to the Intercoastal Waterway (lago), but I wouldn't be shocked if the Marjorie thing also had something to do with it. I also had no idea who she was prior to this clue.
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