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Ironhorse wrote: Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:53 pm I said Bloomfontein, which fails the pronunciation test.
The FJ! round is about writing. I say count it and now it will take 2 no posts to negate my yes.
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I vote "count it" also...

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The 2/3 on FJ surprised me; the 0/2 on spelling did not. I was cringing waiting for the reveal and hoping nobody got dinged on spelling.
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Wow, Alex - you asked Erik if he was raking in the dough as a puzzlebator? Awkwarddddd!

I thought Erik would last a while but he seems to lose his dominance on the buzzer or just decides to stay CLAM for periods of time. And, surprisingly he takes some weird guesses. He hit on betwixt, but "House Robin" (for the house sparrow) is just funny :lol:. He had a weird guess for the arithmetic question yesterday as well.

BTW, Where do the writers think house sparrows go? They are not migratory. The picture was enough but the clue is arguably misleading. They like nature questions, but the picture of the snake earlier this week was a rare coloration - I've never even seen a picture like it.
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The water moccasin pictured was very light colored - these are bad-assed snakes and they look it.
I fully expected the champ to get the world capital question, even if it is a somewhat esoteric trivia nugget. He fired out Montevideo easy enough. It probably isn't a puzzle word, but surely all contestants burn in world capitals (if they have time).
I missed it with Pretoria - knew it wouldn't be Johannesburg from the flower TOM and knew I couldn't remember the other name. I only knew about the redundant capital situation in South Africa from last year's episode.

Good luck Erik, which you'd have made some more coin. I learned from your puzzle (and TPH cheat sheet) that modern puzzles have evolved to lots of phrases - I'll probably never get reprogrammed to think with parallel processing like that.

Congrats Eric(?) Hanna. I think going all on DD3 and missing could've locked you out so I'm good with your wager. I am on record in another thread as rooting for Canucks and girls. The jury is out on belly sliding ice maniacs :).
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MarkBarrett wrote: Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:57 pm
Ironhorse wrote: Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:53 pm I said Bloomfontein, which fails the pronunciation test.
The FJ! round is about writing. I say count it and now it will take 2 no posts to negate my yes.
Yeah. "Bloem" in Dutch (or Afrikaans) is pronounced "bloom".
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Saturnalia wrote: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:05 pm 0/5 on Cher. :oops: Of course, it's not that dire: on a hypothetical DD I'd have come up with "Mamma Mia" and I've heard "I've Got You Babe" and "Believe," -- the latter, anyway, is a fantastic song.
"I've Got You, Babe" would get—and has gotten—a player negged. The title isn't in the present perfect tense.
twelvefootboy wrote: Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:07 pm I fully expected the champ to get the world capital question, even if it is a somewhat esoteric trivia nugget. He fired out Montevideo easy enough. It probably isn't a puzzle word, but surely all contestants burn in world capitals (if they have time).
I missed it with Pretoria - knew it wouldn't be Johannesburg from the flower TOM and knew I couldn't remember the other name. I only knew about the redundant capital situation in South Africa from last year's episode.
I knew it wouldn't be Johannesburg from the word "capital" in the clue. (It's the largest city, but Bloemfontein, Pretoria, and Cape Town are the centers of each of the three branches of SA's government.) I also fully expected Erik to get it right; he clearly figured out it was South Africa, presumably from "judicial capital," and I assume he just named another capital because he couldn't remember all three (or more importantly, he couldn't remember the right one).
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seaborgium wrote: Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:50 pm
"I've Got You, Babe" would get—and has gotten—a player negged. The title isn't in the present perfect tense.
Noted! Thanks.
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I haven't heard "Bloemfontein" pronounced (I often don't watch Jeopardy daily btw, I usually just keep track with online recaps and such), but I'd pronounce it Blohm-Fon-Tayne. The first syllable to rhyme with "roam".
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Bloemfontein came up in an FJ in the fairly early days of the Trebek era; first decade, I would guess. Something like "Of South Africa's three capitals, the one in the geographic middle of the country". I'm pretty sure I posted something similar here after the 2017 game, as it seems the sort of thing I would do.
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I joined champion-Erik in running "Be".

Thanks to Disney's Gargoyles, I'm predisposed to think of Brooklyn as a male name.

I had the same brain fart on "Ahab" that I bet the contestants did. Even after the neg on Ishmael, that was still the only Moby-Dick character name that my brain could dredge up. Then cue the "oh, uh" when Alex said what it was.

Rock needs to brush up on song titles. Still, how was "I Got You Babe" a TS? Did the other two honestly miss the "want"?

Byzantium was entirely byzantine to me. I didn't get anything right.

Also 0/5 in the Literature and Fossil categories. However, I got all but the bottom on Say the Word.

Lisbeth Salander seems like a Hawley-Smoot name to me, so I'm sure it would've stuck had I seen it before.

Blah blah rose = Bloemfontein.

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TenPoundHammer wrote: Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:48 pm Lisbeth Salander seems like a Hawley-Smoot name to me, so I'm sure it would've stuck had I seen it before.
I have a feeling they would have accepted "the girl with the dragon tattoo" for that clue, and that, in fact, they only had Salander as an alternative response (if even that much).
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35,000 coryat.

Not really an instaget, as I immediately knew which capital it was but had to dredge up its cockamamie name. Thankfully it came to me after 10 seconds.
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seaborgium wrote: Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:50 pm
Saturnalia wrote: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:05 pm 0/5 on Cher. :oops: Of course, it's not that dire: on a hypothetical DD I'd have come up with "Mamma Mia" and I've heard "I've Got You Babe" and "Believe," -- the latter, anyway, is a fantastic song.
"I've Got You, Babe" would get—and has gotten—a player negged. The title isn't in the present perfect tense.
I don't think the standard grammar--I have got you--is in the present perfect. In American English, that's the functional equivalent, give or take a nuance, of "I have you." It's the simple present. The present perfect would be "I have gotten you."
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Vowela wrote: Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:34 pm In retrospect I should've gotten it, but all my mind could do was associate Pretoria with petunias, and wound up picking that one :oops:.
I said Pretoria as well. Bloemfontein, for me, is the Carreras of South African capitals: it's that *other* one. :lol:
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opusthepenguin wrote: Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:09 am
seaborgium wrote: Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:50 pm
Saturnalia wrote: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:05 pm 0/5 on Cher. :oops: Of course, it's not that dire: on a hypothetical DD I'd have come up with "Mamma Mia" and I've heard "I've Got You Babe" and "Believe," -- the latter, anyway, is a fantastic song.
"I've Got You, Babe" would get—and has gotten—a player negged. The title isn't in the present perfect tense.
I don't think the standard grammar--I have got you--is in the present perfect. In American English, that's the functional equivalent, give or take a nuance, of "I have you." It's the simple present. The present perfect would be "I have gotten you."
"I got you" is also the functional equivalent of "I have you." How would you differentiate "got" from "have got," if not by calling them past tense and present perfect respectively?

Also, I know "gotten" is the past participle in American English, but it's not like American English speakers don't give the past participle form amiss and use the past tense form of a verb in present or past perfect constructions.
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seaborgium wrote: Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:05 am
opusthepenguin wrote: Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:09 am
seaborgium wrote: Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:50 pm
Saturnalia wrote: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:05 pm 0/5 on Cher. :oops: Of course, it's not that dire: on a hypothetical DD I'd have come up with "Mamma Mia" and I've heard "I've Got You Babe" and "Believe," -- the latter, anyway, is a fantastic song.
"I've Got You, Babe" would get—and has gotten—a player negged. The title isn't in the present perfect tense.
I don't think the standard grammar--I have got you--is in the present perfect. In American English, that's the functional equivalent, give or take a nuance, of "I have you." It's the simple present. The present perfect would be "I have gotten you."
"I got you" is also the functional equivalent of "I have you." How would you differentiate "got" from "have got," if not by calling them past tense and present perfect respectively?
You lost me. What? "I have you" and the more colloquial "I got you" are both present tense pure and simple, the latter ungrammatically so. "I got you" is not past tense. It does not mean "I took possession of you at some point in the past."

"I have got you" is functionally equivalent to "I have you" and "I got you." It may have the form of the present perfect, but grammatically it functions as a present tense. As a present perfect it would express something similar to "I have possessed you" or "I have received you." But this is not what we mean by "I have got you" or "I got you."
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Saturnalia wrote: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:05 pm "Believe," -- the latter, anyway, is a fantastic song.
No accounting for taste. I've often cited it as my most hated song.

For FJ Bloemfontein came to mind immediately, but it took me a few more seconds to realize what the connection to roses was.
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BigDaddyMatty wrote: Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:09 pm
"Judicial capital" meant that it was going to be one of the three in South Africa. I didn't know which is which, but the one with the Dutch cognate for "bloom" would be aptly named as the home of a rose festival.
A little knowledge goes a long way with a clue like this. I followed exactly the same line of reasoning and got to the right city very nicely. Also managed to misspell it just as Rock and Hannah did, but who cares?
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What's up with this show? Alex's pie-in-the-face one day and the "3 Eriks" gag the next sounds like he's actually becoming funnier.

LT: Ross Ice Shelf, "I Got You, Babe," zymase (where the hell did I ever hear THAT?).

Ran the category in "be", 3-for-3 in DDs, almost-Instaget FJ, and still a wayyyy sub-par Coryat.

When I saw the one category name I started to wonder whether I might qualify as Ohio's state fossil. Maybe not quite yet.

I thought Hannah would have wagered more sensibly in FJ, to snatch a win in the event both she and Erik negged that clue. Fortunately for her it didn't cost her and in fact made for a much nicer payday. Have to see what her future FJ wager(s) look like so see if she knows more about that all-important category than she revealed in this game.
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