The crisis in TDs

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Re: The crisis in TDs

Post by Vintsanity » Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:44 pm

CasketRomance wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:11 pm
Vintsanity wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:14 am
I participated (initially under a different account) in nearly every single TD from roughly the end of 2015 to a few months ago when I stopped frequenting this board multiple times per week. Now I usually just stop by once a week to see the FJ poll.

For me it was simple a matter of getting trivia fatigue. With this board, LearnedLeague, AlpacaFarm, Fleetwit, HQ Trivia, TriviaHub, and DVR'd episodes of J! and Millionaire, trivial pursuits were just taking up too much of my time. Something had to give, and that something was this board and the TDs. For me, TDs took more time and/or effort than the other things I mentioned, so they got the ax.

The quality of the TDs is fine; I really can't think of any structural changes that would make me more likely to participate. I find that the quantity is overwhelming. I would probably make it a point to play TDs if they were once a month or something. As is, it is easier to just cut them out completely than to pick and choose a few to participate in.
i had never heard of that site before...so it is a trivia gambling site? seems decent, but the rake is really high on that site
In addition to the 1v1 games there are free live races with cash prizes.

You're right, the rake on those 1v1 races is really high. I've made money by focusing on some narrow categories that I have deep knowledge in, but overall, you have to win 62.5% of your games to just break even. The site is heavily populated by elite trivia players, so that is a tough task.

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Re: The crisis in TDs

Post by Magna » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:11 pm

This is just a busy time of year for me. But also, I've checked out a few of them and had no ready answer for two or more questions (mostly in what I'd consider niche areas). So it's the difficulty level as well.

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Re: The crisis in TDs

Post by CasketRomance » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:41 pm

Vintsanity wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:44 pm
CasketRomance wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:11 pm
Vintsanity wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:14 am
I participated (initially under a different account) in nearly every single TD from roughly the end of 2015 to a few months ago when I stopped frequenting this board multiple times per week. Now I usually just stop by once a week to see the FJ poll.

For me it was simple a matter of getting trivia fatigue. With this board, LearnedLeague, AlpacaFarm, Fleetwit, HQ Trivia, TriviaHub, and DVR'd episodes of J! and Millionaire, trivial pursuits were just taking up too much of my time. Something had to give, and that something was this board and the TDs. For me, TDs took more time and/or effort than the other things I mentioned, so they got the ax.

The quality of the TDs is fine; I really can't think of any structural changes that would make me more likely to participate. I find that the quantity is overwhelming. I would probably make it a point to play TDs if they were once a month or something. As is, it is easier to just cut them out completely than to pick and choose a few to participate in.
i had never heard of that site before...so it is a trivia gambling site? seems decent, but the rake is really high on that site
In addition to the 1v1 games there are free live races with cash prizes.

You're right, the rake on those 1v1 races is really high. I've made money by focusing on some narrow categories that I have deep knowledge in, but overall, you have to win 62.5% of your games to just break even. The site is heavily populated by elite trivia players, so that is a tough task.

will just do the freebies it looks like...can't handle the 20 percent rake....if they would do 5 percent like they do on wsop poker site for heads up, i would play a lot of the head to heads....heck...even 10 percent rake...but not 20 percent

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Re: The crisis in TDs

Post by seaborgium » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:25 pm

CasketRomance wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:41 pm
Vintsanity wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:44 pm
CasketRomance wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:11 pm
Vintsanity wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:14 am
I participated (initially under a different account) in nearly every single TD from roughly the end of 2015 to a few months ago when I stopped frequenting this board multiple times per week. Now I usually just stop by once a week to see the FJ poll.

For me it was simple a matter of getting trivia fatigue. With this board, LearnedLeague, AlpacaFarm, Fleetwit, HQ Trivia, TriviaHub, and DVR'd episodes of J! and Millionaire, trivial pursuits were just taking up too much of my time. Something had to give, and that something was this board and the TDs. For me, TDs took more time and/or effort than the other things I mentioned, so they got the ax.

The quality of the TDs is fine; I really can't think of any structural changes that would make me more likely to participate. I find that the quantity is overwhelming. I would probably make it a point to play TDs if they were once a month or something. As is, it is easier to just cut them out completely than to pick and choose a few to participate in.
i had never heard of that site before...so it is a trivia gambling site? seems decent, but the rake is really high on that site
In addition to the 1v1 games there are free live races with cash prizes.

You're right, the rake on those 1v1 races is really high. I've made money by focusing on some narrow categories that I have deep knowledge in, but overall, you have to win 62.5% of your games to just break even. The site is heavily populated by elite trivia players, so that is a tough task.

will just do the freebies it looks like...can't handle the 20 percent rake....if they would do 5 percent like they do on wsop poker site for heads up, i would play a lot of the head to heads....heck...even 10 percent rake...but not 20 percent
You can challenge specific opponents in private for a 10 percent rake, but that's a 20 credit ($5) minimum.

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Re: The crisis in TDs

Post by CasketRomance » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:27 pm

seaborgium wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:25 pm
CasketRomance wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:41 pm
Vintsanity wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:44 pm
CasketRomance wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:11 pm
Vintsanity wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 12:14 am
I participated (initially under a different account) in nearly every single TD from roughly the end of 2015 to a few months ago when I stopped frequenting this board multiple times per week. Now I usually just stop by once a week to see the FJ poll.

For me it was simple a matter of getting trivia fatigue. With this board, LearnedLeague, AlpacaFarm, Fleetwit, HQ Trivia, TriviaHub, and DVR'd episodes of J! and Millionaire, trivial pursuits were just taking up too much of my time. Something had to give, and that something was this board and the TDs. For me, TDs took more time and/or effort than the other things I mentioned, so they got the ax.

The quality of the TDs is fine; I really can't think of any structural changes that would make me more likely to participate. I find that the quantity is overwhelming. I would probably make it a point to play TDs if they were once a month or something. As is, it is easier to just cut them out completely than to pick and choose a few to participate in.
i had never heard of that site before...so it is a trivia gambling site? seems decent, but the rake is really high on that site
In addition to the 1v1 games there are free live races with cash prizes.

You're right, the rake on those 1v1 races is really high. I've made money by focusing on some narrow categories that I have deep knowledge in, but overall, you have to win 62.5% of your games to just break even. The site is heavily populated by elite trivia players, so that is a tough task.

will just do the freebies it looks like...can't handle the 20 percent rake....if they would do 5 percent like they do on wsop poker site for heads up, i would play a lot of the head to heads....heck...even 10 percent rake...but not 20 percent
You can challenge specific opponents in private for a 10 percent rake, but that's a 20 credit ($5) minimum.

need to build the BR to do that...would be bad BRM otherwise

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Re: The crisis in TDs

Post by CoachP » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:34 am

I generally have more free time to play in the summer (as well as the SHC). I liked Morbeedo's mini TD format-more accessible to those of us w/less free time to spend on the board, and Florida Gator's "Ring" cycle was incentive to play (and get my butt kicked) for awhile. However, I wouldn't have entered the Ring cycle had it appeared during the academic year.

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Re: The crisis in TDs

Post by Peter the accountant » Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:14 pm

I've had some things come up IRL that have limited my internet time over the last several months. I'm just getting back to J! I'm still not sure I'll be able to be as active as before, but I definitely enjoyed watching and discussing the daily games.

I tried to enter the TD most weeks before then. But from time to time one would come out where I couldn't come up with any answers at all to the first 2 or 3 questions. When that happens, it's quite discouraging and I tend to skip that week. It's typically the luck of the draw hitting topics where I don't know as much.

If I were to make a suggestion, it might be including some attempt to grade the difficulty level of the TD. If it's acknowledged as hard going in, it sets some expectations and I'm less likely to get discouraged by difficult questions.

Having written one TD, I suspect that personal bias came out in that TD. I tried to make mine easier than average.
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Re: The crisis in TDs

Post by CasketRomance » Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:51 pm

i entered TD406 within 2 hours after the thread was created...pretty solid TD...CLS makes some of the best TDs

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Re: The crisis in TDs

Post by RandyG » Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:38 pm

I've been playing and hosting TDs for almost as long as they've been a staple on this board. And being in charge of the TD queue and archive, I've paid close attention to each and every one, week in and week out, that is offered up. But I don't play them much anymore and I haven't hosted one in ages.

Hosting, simple.... takes too much time, effort and patience that I currently have in short supply, though I do regularly think about hosting and I still maintain a running list of potential topics and questions. I truly do appreciate our handful of boardies that frequently step up to host. Bravo!

Not playing much for several reasons, but rather than go into detail based on what might be just idiosyncratic rationalizations, I'll suggest that we all review two separate threads on Think Different Best Practices that Keith (Vermonter) and I initiated 3+ years ago, when TDs were regularly attracting easily 50+ players each week and the upcoming queue was often several months long. And it wasn't just the two of us preaching from on high; there's a lot of valuable discussion in the threads regarding what makes a good and popular quiz. When a potential new host comes along, I always strongly suggest that these threads be reviewed.

I don't know whether it will it make a difference, or whether it truly matters. But it is clear that there is far less interest in TDs than there used to be, especially among a lot of "old-timers" who still hang out here, myself included.

Think Different Best Practices: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3249
TD guidelines: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1725
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