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Wednesday, December 19, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

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Re: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

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Re: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by theFJguy » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:34 am

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
POETS’ BIRTHPLACES

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
5 Cwmdonkin Drive was the address of the family home where he was born in 1914

Jackie Fuchs: 14400+14000=28400 (4x = $87,089)
Eric Doctor: 4800-2799=2001
Trisha Eustaquio: 13400+13399=26799

Correct response:
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Dylan Thomas (Eric – [shrugging stick figure guy])

Daily Doubles
Trisha: 3600+2000
Trisha: 9000-2000
Eric: 1200-2000

Coryats
Jackie: 14400
Eric: 6800
Trisha: 14200

Combined: 35,400

Scores at the end of the Jeopardy! Round
Jackie: 2400
Eric: minus 800
Trisha: 6600

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Re: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by MarkBarrett » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:36 am

Jackie’s chat with Alex mentioned her appearance on The Dating Game. Here is the clip from 1980:
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Jackie mentioned that the other segment on that show had Pee Wee Herman.

The players had some creative misses on the tea guy and the German place for the Beatles.

WORDS THAT SHOULD RYHME $400: Difficult & the stuff that’s kneaded to make bread

Eric was correct with:
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dough & tough
while I counted my
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dough and rough
correct as well.

The FJ! clue was solvable with the just the category and the Drive’s name as with or without the year it would not change my correct response.

This is what Eric had:
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Jackie leapfrogged both Kyle Becker and Mary Ann Borer to get into the 12th spot and 13th with the upcoming Teacher added. A win tomorrow and she can go by four more players.

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Re: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Elijah Baley » Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:22 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:36 am

The FJ! clue was solvable with the just the category and the Drive’s name as with or without the year it would not change my correct response.
I'm curious what made that FJ solvable with the category and street name only - unless one has studied Welsh (which is how I recognized the language). I was feeling pretty clever but a little less so now. :)

Edited to add that I'm not sure what Trish was going for with that FJ wager.
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Re: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by MarkBarrett » Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:35 pm

Elijah Baley wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:22 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:36 am

The FJ! clue was solvable with the just the category and the Drive’s name as with or without the year it would not change my correct response.
I'm curious what made that FJ solvable with the category and street name only - unless one has studied Welsh (which is how I recognized the language). I was feeling pretty clever but a little less so now. :)
To quote a great scholar: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=761&p=34289#p34289

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Re: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by MarkBarrett » Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:13 pm

The clues for handy reference in DO THE MATH since it's bound to be a topic of board interest:
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$200: It's the decimal equivalent of 1/8

$400: 9 divided by 3/4 = this

$600: If  x² + 2 = 18, x = this

$800: It's 5% of 400

$1000: (x + 1)² expands to this
One way of doing the math in the category:
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$200:  2/8 = .250 so for 1/8 divide in half for .125  (really more know the math than do the math)
$400: invert and multiply so 9 times 4 is 36 and divided by 3 is 12
$600: take the 2 away from the left to leave x squared and take the 2 away from the right to leave 16 for x squared = 16 which is 4
$800: 10% of 400 is 40, so for 5% divide again to get 20
$1000: http://www.billthelizard.com/2009/12/ma ... x-1-2.html
Once Hammer checks in then the discussion can go to his thread.

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Re: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Elijah Baley » Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:22 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:35 pm
Elijah Baley wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:22 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:36 am

The FJ! clue was solvable with the just the category and the Drive’s name as with or without the year it would not change my correct response.
I'm curious what made that FJ solvable with the category and street name only - unless one has studied Welsh (which is how I recognized the language). I was feeling pretty clever but a little less so now. :)
To quote a great scholar: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=761&p=34289#p34289
A surprising bit of deductive reasoning there. Hope, does in fact, spring eternal. ;)

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Re: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by badgerfellow » Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:10 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:13 pm
The clues for handy reference in DO THE MATH since it's bound to be a topic of board interest:
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$200: It's the decimal equivalent of 1/8

$400: 9 divided by 3/4 = this

$600: If  x² + 2 = 18, x = this

$800: It's 5% of 400

$1000: (x + 1)² expands to this
One way of doing the math in the category:
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$200:  2/8 = .250 so for 1/8 divide in half for .125  (really more know the math than do the math)
$400: invert and multiply so 9 times 4 is 36 and divided by 3 is 12
$600: take the 2 away from the left to leave x squared and take the 2 away from the right to leave 16 for x squared = 16 which is 4
$800: 10% of 400 is 40, so for 5% divide again to get 20
$1000: http://www.billthelizard.com/2009/12/ma ... x-1-2.html
Once Hammer checks in then the discussion can go to his thread.
So let me be that person:
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Wonder if anyone would try to be funny and go with -4 for the $600 clue

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Re: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Bob78164 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:30 pm

This game is a loss for the Strong Form of Shore's Conjecture. The second-place player bet "big."

And way to go, Jackie! --Bob

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Re: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by spell4yr » Wed Dec 19, 2018 4:04 pm

badgerfellow wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:10 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:13 pm
The clues for handy reference in DO THE MATH since it's bound to be a topic of board interest:
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$200: It's the decimal equivalent of 1/8

$400: 9 divided by 3/4 = this

$600: If  x² + 2 = 18, x = this

$800: It's 5% of 400

$1000: (x + 1)² expands to this
One way of doing the math in the category:
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$200:  2/8 = .250 so for 1/8 divide in half for .125  (really more know the math than do the math)
$400: invert and multiply so 9 times 4 is 36 and divided by 3 is 12
$600: take the 2 away from the left to leave x squared and take the 2 away from the right to leave 16 for x squared = 16 which is 4
$800: 10% of 400 is 40, so for 5% divide again to get 20
$1000: http://www.billthelizard.com/2009/12/ma ... x-1-2.html
Once Hammer checks in then the discussion can go to his thread.
So let me be that person:
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Wonder if anyone would try to be funny and go with -4 for the $600 clue
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Well an answer of only x=4 (or only x=-4) should have been considered wrong. The answer needs both parts to be correct ...

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Re: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Plactus » Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:25 pm

badgerfellow wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:10 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:13 pm
The clues for handy reference in DO THE MATH since it's bound to be a topic of board interest:
SpoilerShow

$200: It's the decimal equivalent of 1/8

$400: 9 divided by 3/4 = this

$600: If  x² + 2 = 18, x = this

$800: It's 5% of 400

$1000: (x + 1)² expands to this
One way of doing the math in the category:
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$200:  2/8 = .250 so for 1/8 divide in half for .125  (really more know the math than do the math)
$400: invert and multiply so 9 times 4 is 36 and divided by 3 is 12
$600: take the 2 away from the left to leave x squared and take the 2 away from the right to leave 16 for x squared = 16 which is 4
$800: 10% of 400 is 40, so for 5% divide again to get 20
$1000: http://www.billthelizard.com/2009/12/ma ... x-1-2.html
Once Hammer checks in then the discussion can go to his thread.
So let me be that person:
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Wonder if anyone would try to be funny and go with -4 for the $600 clue
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I would have said "4 or -4," certainly.
Second straight day where I thought the date in FJ was too late but the correct answer was the only one that came to mind.

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Re: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by TenPoundHammer » Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:29 pm

Jackie is full of stories. I love it.

Ran the Fab Four category.

Surprisingly I didn't struggle with the first four math problems at all. $1,000 cost me the run because I had no idea how to "expand" that or any other problem.

Also 4/5 on Tea and Architecture, missing masala chai and pedament.

Ralph Waldo Emerson = Harvard seemed obscure for the top box. Any reason I should know that? That entire category seemed absurdly YEKIOYD.

Only 0/5 today was the Superhero category. Yawn.

Obviously Welsh with the "cwm" part, but my brain is getting zero results for "Welsh" + "poet".

Lach Trash: Hamburg, Lipton, casserole/hyperbole, plus four. Also got the "bargain bin" and Okeechobee DDs.
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Re: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by xxaaaxx » Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:37 pm

badgerfellow wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 3:10 pm
So let me be that person:
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Wonder if anyone would try to be funny and go with -4 for the $600 clue
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*raises hand* sure would! My exact answer at home was '4 or -4' but if I were on the show? Definitely -4. It was a free $3000, gotta spice it up somehow. Also not sure why we're spoilering this.
Cwmd---wtf? That nonsense has to be Welsh -> Dylan Thomas, done.

A 4 day champ!!! Please make it 10. Or 20. But also, better FJ wagers? It'll be interesting to see what she bets with a crush lead.
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:29 pm
Surprisingly I didn't struggle with the first four math problems at all. $1,000 cost me the run because I had no idea how to "expand" that or any other problem.
Foiled again.

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Re: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Foretopman » Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:48 pm

My kids and I have long had a private joke about how Sean Bean's name should be pronounced like "Seen Bawn", so there was no way I was missing that one.

I would have been willing to bet Dylan Thomas was born much earlier than 1914, but Welsh + Poet can't be anybody else.

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Re: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by opusthepenguin » Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:48 pm

A year ago and change, Wilbur Farley lost because he wrote "Sgt Pepper's Lonely heart" before his light pen stopped working. He interpreted the morning briefing instructions to mean that "Sgt Pepper" alone would not have been accepted. Today, Jackie made exactly that response and was credited.

The following clue appeared to ask for a completion to the lyric "Let me take you down 'cause I'm going to" so Jackie appropriately supplied "Strawberry fields". But the confusingly worded clue actually wanted the song title of which has an additional word that appears later. Alex paused and she supplied the "forever" in time.

Pet peeve on the math front. They always do this. If x² + 2 = 18, x = this. Eric supplied a partial response, "What is 4?" But did Alex pause and wait? Of course not. He ruled Eric correct. Sorry, buddy. Even a wimpy math teacher would only give you partial credit for that.

Another pet peeve. Huey Long is not the only famous Louisiana politician with that last name. "Who is Long" should get a BMS. If you can't cough up Huey, you don't deserve the points.

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Re: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Euphonium » Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:24 pm

I'm 33 years old and "Lake Titicaca" still makes me giggle.

Coryat: $35,000

J: Got the DD. 5/5 on Math and Fab Four, 4/4 on Banned Books, 4/5 on Higher Education (knew it had to be either Arizona or ASU, and wasn't feeling lucky enough to commit to a guess) and Tea & Sympathy. 2/4 on Words That Should Rhyme.

DJ: 1/2 on DDs (made the same mistake as Eric). 5/5 on Architecture, 4/5 on Lakes and Fab 4. 0/5 on Superheroes (as is to be expected).

Missed FJ. Recognized that "Cwmdonkin" looked Welsh (though for a brief instant I thought it was Cherokee, based on the character forms in Sequoyah's syllabary: Tsa-la-gi, the Cherokee autonym, looks like CWy), but I always forget that Dylan Thomas is Welsh.

LT: Hamburg (I had literally just been reading the Wikipedia article on the Beatles this morning), Lipton, Harvard, chains,
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Re: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Euphonium » Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:26 pm

Elijah Baley wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:22 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:36 am

The FJ! clue was solvable with the just the category and the Drive’s name as with or without the year it would not change my correct response.
I'm curious what made that FJ solvable with the category and street name only - unless one has studied Welsh (which is how I recognized the language). I was feeling pretty clever but a little less so now. :)
I've never studied Welsh, but I do have a knack for picking up certain patterns of letters in the written forms (or, at least, Romanized written forms) of languages I've never studied such that I can identify them quite reliably. I couldn't ever begin to explain those patterns for you; I just kind of pick up on them intuitively. I suspect I'm not the only one.
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Re: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by TenPoundHammer » Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:37 pm

Somewhat on topic given the Beatles category:

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Re: Wednesday, December 19, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by JayK33 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:42 pm

Yes on FJ. Thought the name sounded Welsh so went with Dylan Thomas, who I believed was. I wasn't positive on the birth year but it seemed like a fine answer to put down.

I'm glad, too, because seeing that FJ category at first, I was like "I got no chance".
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