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Re: Friday, March 29, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by TenPoundHammer » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:14 pm

seaborgium wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:07 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:04 pm
seaborgium wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:58 pm
Yeah, no. The mango is Asian, and all place names ending in -abad are Asian (save for one Trinidadian city named after an Indian one).
I still think this clue requires far, FAR deeper knowledge than is normal for a $200 box. IMO poutine should've been $200.
Poutine certainly could have been $200, but other than that, again I say, "Yeah, no."
Mangoes could be from anywhere. I've certainly seen them in non-Asian cuisine. And still, I doubt 99.9% of the world could tell you what continent chutney is from, never mind the more specific words in the clue.
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Re: Friday, March 29, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by seaborgium » Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:32 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:14 pm
seaborgium wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:07 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:04 pm
seaborgium wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:58 pm
Yeah, no. The mango is Asian, and all place names ending in -abad are Asian (save for one Trinidadian city named after an Indian one).
I still think this clue requires far, FAR deeper knowledge than is normal for a $200 box. IMO poutine should've been $200.
Poutine certainly could have been $200, but other than that, again I say, "Yeah, no."
Mangoes could be from anywhere. I've certainly seen them in non-Asian cuisine. And still, I doubt 99.9% of the world could tell you what continent chutney is from, never mind the more specific words in the clue.
There's millions of continents it could be!

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Re: Friday, March 29, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by davey » Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:14 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:14 pm
seaborgium wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:07 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:04 pm
seaborgium wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:58 pm
Yeah, no. The mango is Asian, and all place names ending in -abad are Asian (save for one Trinidadian city named after an Indian one).
I still think this clue requires far, FAR deeper knowledge than is normal for a $200 box. IMO poutine should've been $200.
Poutine certainly could have been $200, but other than that, again I say, "Yeah, no."
Mangoes could be from anywhere. I've certainly seen them in non-Asian cuisine. And still, I doubt 99.9% of the world could tell you what continent chutney is from, never mind the more specific words in the clue.
Since India has 17% of the world's population, that seems unlikely... :P

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:49 pm

seaborgium wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:32 pm
There's millions of continents it could be!
It's a 1 in 6 at best since i think even I can rule out Antarctica. 17% is NOT good odds for the top box.
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Re: Friday, March 29, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by davey » Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:15 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:49 pm
seaborgium wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:32 pm
There's millions of continents it could be!
It's a 1 in 6 at best since i think even I can rule out Antarctica. 17% is NOT good odds for the top box.
The odds really go down when you realize there may never have been an Indian citizen on the show...I wonder how well they'd do with the poutine clue??... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Friday, March 29, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by seaborgium » Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:35 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:49 pm
seaborgium wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:32 pm
There's millions of continents it could be!
It's a 1 in 6 at best since i think even I can rule out Antarctica. 17% is NOT good odds for the top box.
Please. It's simple to rationally narrow it down to Africa and Asia, and they frequently have Cambridge/Oxford coinflips in the top row.

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:37 pm

seaborgium wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:35 pm
Please. It's simple to rationally narrow it down to Africa and Asia,
How so?
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Post by seaborgium » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:40 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:37 pm
seaborgium wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:35 pm
Please. It's simple to rationally narrow it down to Africa and Asia,
How so?
Surely a $200 clue about North American, South American, European, or Australian food would name something or someplace familiar. For you especially, if it purports to be of a particular continent and you've never heard of it and can't make linguistic heads or tails of the words, it's gotta be African or Asian.

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Re: Friday, March 29, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Spiny Norman » Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:02 pm

Anyone do the NYT crossword? One of the answers in the Jeopardy round was a prominent part of the puzzle this past Sunday. I love serendipity.

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:26 pm

seaborgium wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:40 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:37 pm
seaborgium wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:35 pm
Please. It's simple to rationally narrow it down to Africa and Asia,
How so?
Surely a $200 clue about North American, South American, European, or Australian food would name something or someplace familiar. For you especially, if it purports to be of a particular continent and you've never heard of it and can't make linguistic heads or tails of the words, it's gotta be African or Asian.
That's the kind of abstract thinking that should by no means ever be in the top box. Or really in any clue
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Re: Friday, March 29, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by MarkBarrett » Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:42 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:26 pm
seaborgium wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:40 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:37 pm
seaborgium wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:35 pm
Please. It's simple to rationally narrow it down to Africa and Asia,
How so?
Surely a $200 clue about North American, South American, European, or Australian food would name something or someplace familiar. For you especially, if it purports to be of a particular continent and you've never heard of it and can't make linguistic heads or tails of the words, it's gotta be African or Asian.
That's the kind of abstract thinking that should by no means ever be in the top box. Or really in any clue
Chutney is India and India is Asia. That's it and no more. It's past time to move on.

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Re: Friday, March 29, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by seaborgium » Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:43 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:26 pm
seaborgium wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:40 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:37 pm
seaborgium wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:35 pm
Please. It's simple to rationally narrow it down to Africa and Asia,
How so?
Surely a $200 clue about North American, South American, European, or Australian food would name something or someplace familiar. For you especially, if it purports to be of a particular continent and you've never heard of it and can't make linguistic heads or tails of the words, it's gotta be African or Asian.
That's the kind of abstract thinking that should by no means ever be in the top box. Or really in any clue
Well, I already told you that the foods and the place name in the clue were Indian and you threw those back at me. Forgive me for getting abstract, child in Louis C.K.'s "Why?" bit.

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Post by econgator » Mon Apr 01, 2019 9:05 pm

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results" ...

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Post by Volante » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:40 pm

Lefty wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:30 am
Well, actually there are two versions up at Gutenberg. In
THE ADVENTURES OF PINOCCHIO
, by C. Collodi (pseudonym of Carlo Lorenzini), translated from the Italian by Carol Della Chiesa, it's "And how happy I am, now that I have become a real boy!”, while at Pinocchio: The Tale of a Puppet by Carlo Collodi (no translator mentioned), it's "And how glad I am that I have become a well-behaved little boy!"

But even if you buy talking crickets, noses that grow after a lie (never mind that, they apparently do), and marionettes come to life, can you really believe a marionette whose dream is to be "a well-behaved little boy"?
I'm surprised no one's pulled out the original Italian by now to ...well, fan the flames, really. Like it'd clear anything up... :lol:

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Post by Mathew5000 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:34 am

Archivists wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:50 am
MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
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CONTINENTAL BREAKFAST $400: Poutine with home fries at the Old King Bistro in Kitchener
(Alex: It's in Canada.)
News coverage (apparently the Old King Bistro attracted five new customers as a result of this clue):
https://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=1652181

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Re: Friday, March 29, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by davey » Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:46 am

Volante wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:40 pm
Lefty wrote:
Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:30 am
Well, actually there are two versions up at Gutenberg. In
THE ADVENTURES OF PINOCCHIO
, by C. Collodi (pseudonym of Carlo Lorenzini), translated from the Italian by Carol Della Chiesa, it's "And how happy I am, now that I have become a real boy!”, while at Pinocchio: The Tale of a Puppet by Carlo Collodi (no translator mentioned), it's "And how glad I am that I have become a well-behaved little boy!"

But even if you buy talking crickets, noses that grow after a lie (never mind that, they apparently do), and marionettes come to life, can you really believe a marionette whose dream is to be "a well-behaved little boy"?
I'm surprised no one's pulled out the original Italian by now to ...well, fan the flames, really. Like it'd clear anything up... :lol:
It's easy enough to do-
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/52484
Google translates "un ragazzino perbene" as "a decent boy."
The category "Children's Literature in Translation" would have boosted the get rate on this one....

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Post by Mathew5000 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:20 pm

davey wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:46 am
Volante wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:40 pm
I'm surprised no one's pulled out the original Italian by now to ...well, fan the flames, really. Like it'd clear anything up... :lol:
It's easy enough to do-
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/52484
Google translates "un ragazzino perbene" as "a decent boy."
The category "Children's Literature in Translation" would have boosted the get rate on this one....
The Italian term has a double meaning. As this article puts it: 'With the assistance of a Blue Fairy, he is finally redeemed in the last two episodes. Through hard work in a puppet theatre, he is able to save his foster father from pauperdom by paying him 40 gold coins. He has become "un ragazzino per bene", which translates as both a good boy and a real boy.'

Also see the translator's note here, explaining the choice of a proper boy "to convey something of the double meaning of the original. Pinocchio means that he is glad to be both a real boy and a good boy."

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Post by Volante » Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:35 pm

Mathew5000 wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:20 pm
davey wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:46 am
Volante wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:40 pm
I'm surprised no one's pulled out the original Italian by now to ...well, fan the flames, really. Like it'd clear anything up... :lol:
It's easy enough to do-
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/52484
Google translates "un ragazzino perbene" as "a decent boy."
The category "Children's Literature in Translation" would have boosted the get rate on this one....
The Italian term has a double meaning. As this article puts it: 'With the assistance of a Blue Fairy, he is finally redeemed in the last two episodes. Through hard work in a puppet theatre, he is able to save his foster father from pauperdom by paying him 40 gold coins. He has become "un ragazzino per bene", which translates as both a good boy and a real boy.'

Also see the translator's note here, explaining the choice of a proper boy "to convey something of the double meaning of the original. Pinocchio means that he is glad to be both a real boy and a good boy."
I like that one: "a proper boy!" They should have used that translation.

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Re: Friday, March 29, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by davey » Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:10 pm

Volante wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:35 pm
Mathew5000 wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:20 pm
davey wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:46 am
Volante wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:40 pm
I'm surprised no one's pulled out the original Italian by now to ...well, fan the flames, really. Like it'd clear anything up... :lol:
It's easy enough to do-
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/52484
Google translates "un ragazzino perbene" as "a decent boy."
The category "Children's Literature in Translation" would have boosted the get rate on this one....
The Italian term has a double meaning. As this article puts it: 'With the assistance of a Blue Fairy, he is finally redeemed in the last two episodes. Through hard work in a puppet theatre, he is able to save his foster father from pauperdom by paying him 40 gold coins. He has become "un ragazzino per bene", which translates as both a good boy and a real boy.'

Also see the translator's note here, explaining the choice of a proper boy "to convey something of the double meaning of the original. Pinocchio means that he is glad to be both a real boy and a good boy."
I like that one: "a proper boy!" They should have used that translation.
I agree. I saw another website where someone mulling the meaning thought that "proper" was too British, Americans wouldn't get it, but it seems perfect to me.

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