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Harry Friedman stepping down after Season 36

Post by WooWho? » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:01 pm

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Just announced to the staff this morning.
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Re: Harry Friedman stepping down after Season 36

Post by Jeff-thecdboy » Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:01 pm

I wonder if whoever becomes the new producer thinks about doing these things:

1. Bring back Teen Tournament winners getting a spot in the upcoming TOC

2. Bring back five time champions winning a car again, whether it's just a luxury car for winning only five games or something such as a Toyota Corolla for every five games won.

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Re: Harry Friedman stepping down after Season 36

Post by Robert K S » Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:13 pm

Hot take, I wouldn't mind seeing Kids Week back. I find watching precocious kids more enjoyable than watching Washington "Power Players" or teachers who get their own tournament for some reason (sorry, teachers, love ya).

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Re: Harry Friedman stepping down after Season 36

Post by xxaaaxx » Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:37 pm

I'd love it they never did another Kids Week, Celeb, or "Power Players" Week ever again. The latter two are utterly unwatchable garbage 97% of the time, and Kids Week....just isn't enjoyable trivia (the Teen Tournament teeters right on the edge sometimes). If there's popular demand for them, eh whatever, watching 5 fewer episodes a season isn't a big deal.

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Re: Harry Friedman stepping down after Season 36

Post by threearruda » Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:17 pm

Buy a Vowel forums have been interesting reads lately in regards to opinions on this news and other gameplay changes coming soon. I'd bet Mike Richards takes over Wheel in 2020, but I just hope whoever takes over J! (Richards or someone else), refrains from doing anything too drastic. The show is doing perfectly fine as it is, as far as I'm concerned.

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Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:37 pm
I'd love it they never did another Kids Week, Celeb, or "Power Players" Week ever again. The latter two are utterly unwatchable garbage 97% of the time, and Kids Week....just isn't enjoyable trivia (the Teen Tournament teeters right on the edge sometimes). If there's popular demand for them, eh whatever, watching 5 fewer episodes a season isn't a big deal.
Agreed, though not as passionately. :lol: I think there's evidence to support this too, which is good!

I think we're in the clear for Kids Week never returning based on the Sony leak stuff re: 2014 Kids Week and the poo-storm of 2013 Kids Week game 3. If that ever comes back, I'd bet it would be only after Trebek retires.

Trends show we're in line for a Power Players Week in S36 during the election year, but given the current political climate.. I could see how celeb weeks (power players in particular) might not be in the show's best interest either, at least right now. I'll be really curious to see what the sweeps schedule looks like this year.
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Re: Harry Friedman stepping down after Season 36

Post by opusthepenguin » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:37 pm

I've said it before and I'll say it again regarding the best change that could be made. Play. Every. Clue. They have the ability to edit the result to fit their time constraints.

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Re: Harry Friedman stepping down after Season 36

Post by GoodStrategy » Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:57 am

As for changes (or revivals), how about bringing back the Senior Tournament? Unlike the Teachers, there IS a reason for giving older people their own tournament. If ratings are a concern, then do like they did and have it on over the holidays and/or summer (with the baby boomers now in that demographic they could probably do two a season).

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Re: Harry Friedman stepping down after Season 36

Post by cinemaniax7 » Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:38 am

xxaaaxx wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:37 pm
I'd love it they never did another Kids Week, Celeb, or "Power Players" Week ever again. The latter two are utterly unwatchable garbage 97% of the time, and Kids Week....just isn't enjoyable trivia (the Teen Tournament teeters right on the edge sometimes). If there's popular demand for them, eh whatever, watching 5 fewer episodes a season isn't a big deal.
I would be up for a one-day for-charity contest between Andy Richter, Cheech Marin, and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

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Re: Harry Friedman stepping down after Season 36

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opusthepenguin wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:37 pm
I've said it before and I'll say it again regarding the best change that could be made. Play. Every. Clue. They have the ability to edit the result to fit their time constraints.
Be careful what you ask for; they might decide to chop off one column and have 50 clues a game.

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Re: Harry Friedman stepping down after Season 36

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cinemaniax7 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:38 am
xxaaaxx wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:37 pm
I'd love it they never did another Kids Week, Celeb, or "Power Players" Week ever again. The latter two are utterly unwatchable garbage 97% of the time, and Kids Week....just isn't enjoyable trivia (the Teen Tournament teeters right on the edge sometimes). If there's popular demand for them, eh whatever, watching 5 fewer episodes a season isn't a big deal.
I would be up for a one-day for-charity contest between Andy Richter, Cheech Marin, and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
Only if they play as Rocky Richter, Chuy Castillos, and Roger Murdock
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Re: Harry Friedman stepping down after Season 36

Post by TLEberle » Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:54 pm

Jeff-thecdboy wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:01 pm
I wonder if whoever becomes the new producer thinks about doing these things:

1. Bring back Teen Tournament winners getting a spot in the upcoming TOC

2. Bring back five time champions winning a car again, whether it's just a luxury car for winning only five games or something such as a Toyota Corolla for every five games won.
Wow, you couldn’t even give me attribution on this? I’m the same person here and at the Game Show Forum.

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Re: Harry Friedman stepping down after Season 36

Post by Jeff-thecdboy » Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:05 pm

Also, bring back tie games (that is, both contestants come back the next day whenever one occurs) as well.

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Re: Harry Friedman stepping down after Season 36

Post by twelvefootboy » Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:48 am

Jeff-thecdboy wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:05 pm
Also, bring back tie games (that is, both contestants come back the next day whenever one occurs) as well.
I think this is a good example of addition by subtraction. I get that they don't want leaders to play for a tie, but if both players were tied before FJ and shoot the moon and both get it, bring them both back! If they weren't tied beforehand and the leader didn't bet to win outright, send him/her home with the home version of the game.
Anything to get rid of the horrid tiebreaker single clue buzzer battle.
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Re: Harry Friedman stepping down after Season 36

Post by OntarioQuizzer » Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:42 pm

twelvefootboy wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:48 am
Jeff-thecdboy wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:05 pm
Also, bring back tie games (that is, both contestants come back the next day whenever one occurs) as well.
I think this is a good example of addition by subtraction. I get that they don't want leaders to play for a tie, but if both players were tied before FJ and shoot the moon and both get it, bring them both back! If they weren't tied beforehand and the leader didn't bet to win outright, send him/her home with the home version of the game.
Anything to get rid of the horrid tiebreaker single clue buzzer battle.
Anything that invites even the possibility of collusion is a nonstarter and the fact that you don't see that concerns me.
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Re: Harry Friedman stepping down after Season 36

Post by twelvefootboy » Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:52 am

OntarioQuizzer wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:42 pm
twelvefootboy wrote:
Sat Aug 10, 2019 12:48 am
Jeff-thecdboy wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:05 pm
Also, bring back tie games (that is, both contestants come back the next day whenever one occurs) as well.
I think this is a good example of addition by subtraction. I get that they don't want leaders to play for a tie, but if both players were tied before FJ and shoot the moon and both get it, bring them both back! If they weren't tied beforehand and the leader didn't bet to win outright, send him/her home with the home version of the game.
Anything to get rid of the horrid tiebreaker single clue buzzer battle.
Anything that invites even the possibility of collusion is a nonstarter and the fact that you don't see that concerns me.
???
Maybe my gift of befuddlement is in play?. Ties are now rare, and should stay that way. And that would not change if you just eliminate the tiebreaker but punish pre-FJ leaders who don't protect against ties.

My only scenario for two players to move through is IF they are tied at the end of FJ, And ahead of third place. If there is a solo leader after FJ that makes a potential tying cover wager, the leader goes home in case of a make/make.

I know there is another level(s) where third gets it right and a proper leader bet against second makes a 1-3 tie on a miss. Send 'em both through another day. The pool loses one of there 300-some slots but it is an exciting finish.

Therefore, the only prospect for a "deliberate" tie in regular play is for the two (or maybe even three) conspirators to predict and execute a very complicated endgame which may involve unusual clue calling and buzzer restraint. If S&P is worried about this really happening, then they must be the ones blaming Hillary and Bill for killing Jeff Epstein who is also living scot-free on a tropical island after faking his death :).

Still concerned? We're just hanging in Plato's cave here anyway 8-) .
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