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Re: LL82: LearnedLeague

Post by teapot37 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:35 am

MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:20 am
My opponent & I appropriately zeroed each other on Sister, Sister. Where I won the match was getting Foley for 3 points. My vague recollection is learning the name from the Lisa Whelchel era of The New Mickey Mouse Club visiting the Disney guy and seeing stuff such as coconuts for horse trots.
psst... Lisa Whelchel was from The Facts of Life (and later Survivor). Did you mean Keri Russell, maybe?
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Re: LL82: LearnedLeague

Post by triviawayne » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:45 am

alietr wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:00 am
I waffled between Denmark, Indonesia, Canada, and the Philippines. Only Denmark made sense given the wording. But Australia was MCWA?

I'm curious about people who got Fill or Kill. Did you just guess? Did you know it? I consider myself very well versed in finance and I don't think I have ever heard that phrase before (but I don't deal with trading admittedly).
I dunno...I went with Acey Deucey
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Re: LL82: LearnedLeague

Post by Bigdogstalfos » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:38 am

triviawayne wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:45 am
alietr wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:00 am
I waffled between Denmark, Indonesia, Canada, and the Philippines. Only Denmark made sense given the wording. But Australia was MCWA?

I'm curious about people who got Fill or Kill. Did you just guess? Did you know it? I consider myself very well versed in finance and I don't think I have ever heard that phrase before (but I don't deal with trading admittedly).
I dunno...I went with Acey Deucey
Both “kill” and “fill” came up while trying to think of answers, but never together. I ended up going with “splurge or purge.”

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Re: LL82: LearnedLeague

Post by MarkBarrett » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:46 am

teapot37 wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:35 am
MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:20 am
My opponent & I appropriately zeroed each other on Sister, Sister. Where I won the match was getting Foley for 3 points. My vague recollection is learning the name from the Lisa Whelchel era of The New Mickey Mouse Club visiting the Disney guy and seeing stuff such as coconuts for horse trots.
psst... Lisa Whelchel was from The Facts of Life (and later Survivor). Did you mean Keri Russell, maybe?
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Re: LL82: LearnedLeague

Post by econgator » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:12 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:46 am
teapot37 wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:35 am
MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:20 am
My opponent & I appropriately zeroed each other on Sister, Sister. Where I won the match was getting Foley for 3 points. My vague recollection is learning the name from the Lisa Whelchel era of The New Mickey Mouse Club visiting the Disney guy and seeing stuff such as coconuts for horse trots.
psst... Lisa Whelchel was from The Facts of Life (and later Survivor). Did you mean Keri Russell, maybe?
[Sigh] Young people. The 1977 version.
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Re: LL82: LearnedLeague

Post by This Is Kirk! » Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:35 pm

alietr wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:00 am
I waffled between Denmark, Indonesia, Canada, and the Philippines. Only Denmark made sense given the wording. But Australia was MCWA?
Sort of strange all right. Apparently lots of people think Australia is an island or that Tasmania is a whole lot bigger than it actually is.

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Re: LL82: LearnedLeague

Post by bomtr » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:32 pm

Full or pull. Thiiis close. No chance for me on crap sitcoms aimed at kids. Don't tell anybody.

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Re: LL82: LearnedLeague

Post by Volante » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:33 pm

This Is Kirk! wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 12:35 pm
alietr wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:00 am
I waffled between Denmark, Indonesia, Canada, and the Philippines. Only Denmark made sense given the wording. But Australia was MCWA?
Sort of strange all right. Apparently lots of people think Australia is an island or that Tasmania is a whole lot bigger than it actually is.
I briefly considered it, but the largest I could think for Australia was the Great Barrier Reef (which ended up being smaller than I expected. Incidentally, the Coral Sea Marine Park which starts where the GBR Marine Park ends is larger than the Northeast Greenland park referenced by the clue.)

All that said, that brief consideration was very brief as the clue did include the word land.

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Re: LL82: LearnedLeague

Post by classicroadster » Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:46 pm

bomtr wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:32 pm
Full or pull. Thiiis close. No chance for me on crap sitcoms aimed at kids. Don't tell anybody.
Full or pull for me as well... Never heard the term before but I also haven't had an econ class since freshman year of HS. My opponent who had previously got most of the econ terms questions wrong got it of course. 6(4)- 6(4) horrific defense tie.

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Re: LL82: LearnedLeague

Post by Lefty » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:03 pm

I answered "pump and dump" because it sounded familiar. It didn't make much sense to me but I was hoping I'd misunderstood the question.

I was ready for something about Greenland to come up this season. I'm only sorry he asked about Iran first.
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Re: LL82: LearnedLeague

Post by alietr » Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:19 pm

Lefty wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:03 pm
I answered "pump and dump" because it sounded familiar. It didn't make much sense to me but I was hoping I'd misunderstood the question.
"Pump and Dump" is a stock phrase -- it refers to artificially raising the price of a thinly-traded company by buying shares, touting the company's prospects to customers and then selling those shares at a substantial profit, with the people buying those shares left holding the bag (and suffering substantial losses). Probably the best known of these schemes was Stratton Oakmont, immortalized in the movie The Wolf of Wall Street (and in which two of my high school classmates figured prominently).

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Re: LL82: LearnedLeague

Post by Woof » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:08 pm

bomtr wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:32 pm
Full or pull. Thiiis close. No chance for me on crap sitcoms aimed at kids. Don't tell anybody.
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Re: LL82: LearnedLeague

Post by RJRouge » Thu Sep 12, 2019 3:54 pm

I honestly have no idea how I've found myself in 1st place in an A rundle. I keep assuming there's going to be a course correction, but stuff I know just keeps coming up combined with a few (red red rose, especially) lucky guesses.

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Re: LL82: LearnedLeague

Post by twelvefootboy » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:33 pm

alietr wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:00 am
I waffled between Denmark, Indonesia, Canada, and the Philippines. Only Denmark made sense given the wording. But Australia was MCWA?

I'm curious about people who got Fill or Kill. Did you just guess? Did you know it? I consider myself very well versed in finance and I don't think I have ever heard that phrase before (but I don't deal with trading admittedly).
Canada is an island? I am surprised that Indonesia is #14 on the size list and is a cromulent candidate. I went with Australia over New Zealand so I wouldn't dope slap my forehead if it was that easy. I wasn't thinking Great Barrier Reef, but maybe they had designated the Outback as a nice wasteland park.

In retrospect, Australia is a cromulent guess because it would only be about 12% of their land area. The Federal Government owns 28% of US land, about 1,000,000 sq.mi.. I suspect most the LL's that got it knew there was a National Park there. I don't reject Australia for being a continent. Those are all fake news to me anyway until they do something about Europe and Asia.

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GEOGRAPHY - The world's largest national park, and largest officially protected area that is predominantly land, takes up 45% of the island it is on and is larger than all but 30 countries of the world. Established in 1974, the park is one of six under the domain of what country?
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Greenland at 836,000 sq.mi. edges out Saudi Arabia as 12th in size. The park at 375,000 sq.mi. is squarely at #30, bumping Nigeria. All of New Zealand is 260,000 sq.mi., so it is only 2/3 the size.

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Full list of countries (and dependencies) ranked by land area
# Country Area
(Km²) Area
(mi²) % of world
landmass
1 Russia 16,376,870 6,323,142 10.996 %
2 China 9,388,211 3,624,807 6.303 %
3 United States 9,147,420 3,531,837 6.142 %
4 Canada 9,093,510 3,511,022 6.105 %
5 Brazil 8,358,140 3,227,095 5.612 %
6 Australia 7,682,300 2,966,151 5.158 %
7 India 2,973,190 1,147,955 1.996 %
8 Argentina 2,736,690 1,056,641 1.837 %
9 Kazakhstan 2,699,700 1,042,360 1.813 %
10 Algeria 2,381,740 919,595 1.599 %
11 DR Congo 2,267,050 875,313 1.522 %
12 Saudi Arabia 2,149,690 830,000 1.443 %
13 Mexico 1,943,950 750,563 1.305 %
14 Indonesia 1,811,570 699,451 1.216 %
15 Sudan 1,765,048 681,489 1.185 %
16 Libya 1,759,540 679,362 1.181 %
17 Iran 1,628,550 628,786 1.093 %
18 Mongolia 1,553,560 599,833 1.043 %
19 Peru 1,280,000 494,211 0.859 %
20 Niger 1,266,700 489,075 0.850 %
21 Chad 1,259,200 486,180 0.845 %
22 Angola 1,246,700 481,353 0.837 %
23 Mali 1,220,190 471,118 0.819 %
24 South Africa 1,213,090 468,376 0.814 %
25 Colombia 1,109,500 428,380 0.745 %
26 Bolivia 1,083,300 418,264 0.727 %
27 Mauritania 1,030,700 397,955 0.692 %
28 Ethiopia 1,000,000 386,102 0.671 %
29 Egypt 995,450 384,345 0.668 %
30 Nigeria 910,770 351,650 0.612 %
31 Tanzania 885,800 342,009 0.595 %
32 Venezuela 882,050 340,561 0.592 %
33 Namibia 823,290 317,874 0.553 %
34 Mozambique 786,380 303,623 0.528 %
35 Pakistan 770,880 297,638 0.518 %
36 Turkey 769,630 297,156 0.517 %
37 Chile 743,532 287,079 0.499 %
38 Zambia 743,390 287,024 0.499 %
39 Myanmar 653,290 252,237 0.439 %
40 Afghanistan 652,860 252,071 0.438 %
41 Somalia 627,340 242,217 0.421 %
42 Central African Republic 622,980 240,534 0.418 %
43 South Sudan 610,952 235,890 0.410 %
44 Madagascar 581,795 224,632 0.391 %
45 Ukraine 579,320 223,677 0.389 %
46 Kenya 569,140 219,746 0.382 %
47 Botswana 566,730 218,816 0.381 %
48 France 547,557 211,413 0.368 %
49 Yemen 527,970 203,850 0.354 %
50 Thailand 510,890 197,256 0.343 %
51 Spain 498,800 192,588 0.335 %
52 Cameroon 472,710 182,514 0.317 %
53 Turkmenistan 469,930 181,441 0.316 %
54 Papua New Guinea 452,860 174,850 0.304 %
55 Morocco 446,300 172,317 0.300 %
56 Iraq 434,320 167,692 0.292 %
57 Uzbekistan 425,400 164,248 0.286 %
58 Greenland 410,450 158,476 0.276 %
59 Sweden 410,340 158,433 0.276 %
60 Paraguay 397,300 153,398 0.267 %
61 Zimbabwe 386,850 149,364 0.260 %
62 Norway 365,268 141,031 0.245 %
63 Japan 364,555 140,755 0.245 %
64 Germany 348,560 134,580 0.234 %
65 Congo 341,500 131,854 0.229 %
66 Malaysia 328,550 126,854 0.221 %
67 Côte d'Ivoire 318,000 122,780 0.214 %
68 Vietnam 310,070 119,719 0.208 %
69 Oman 309,500 119,499 0.208 %
70 Poland 306,230 118,236 0.206 %
71 Finland 303,890 117,333 0.204 %
72 Philippines 298,170 115,124 0.200 %
73 Italy 294,140 113,568 0.197 %
74 Burkina Faso 273,600 105,638 0.184 %
75 Western Sahara 266,000 102,703 0.179 %
76 New Zealand 263,310 101,665 0.177 %
77 Gabon 257,670 99,487 0.173 %
78 Ecuador 248,360 95,892 0.167 %
79 Guinea 245,720 94,873 0.165 %
80 United Kingdom 241,930 93,410 0.162 %
81 Laos 230,800 89,112 0.155 %
82 Romania 230,170 88,869 0.155 %
83 Ghana 227,540 87,854 0.153 %
84 Belarus 202,910 78,344 0.136 %
85 Uganda 199,810 77,147 0.134 %
86 Guyana 196,850 76,004 0.132 %
87 Senegal 192,530 74,336 0.129 %
88 Kyrgyzstan 191,800 74,054 0.129 %
89 Syria 183,630 70,900 0.123 %
90 Cambodia 176,520 68,155 0.119 %
91 Uruguay 175,020 67,576 0.118 %
92 Suriname 156,000 60,232 0.105 %
93 Tunisia 155,360 59,985 0.104 %
94 Nepal 143,350 55,348 0.096 %
95 Tajikistan 139,960 54,039 0.094 %
96 Bangladesh 130,170 50,259 0.087 %
97 Greece 128,900 49,769 0.087 %
98 North Korea 120,410 46,491 0.081 %
99 Nicaragua 120,340 46,464 0.081 %
100 Benin 112,760 43,537 0.076 %
101 Honduras 111,890 43,201 0.075 %
102 Bulgaria 108,560 41,915 0.073 %
103 Guatemala 107,160 41,375 0.072 %
104 Cuba 106,440 41,097 0.071 %
105 Eritrea 101,000 38,996 0.068 %
106 Iceland 100,250 38,707 0.067 %
107 South Korea 97,230 37,541 0.065 %
108 Liberia 96,320 37,189 0.065 %
109 Malawi 94,280 36,402 0.063 %
110 Portugal 91,590 35,363 0.061 %
111 Hungary 90,530 34,954 0.061 %
112 Jordan 88,780 34,278 0.060 %
113 Serbia 87,460 33,768 0.059 %
114 United Arab Emirates 83,600 32,278 0.056 %
115 Azerbaijan 82,658 31,914 0.055 %
116 Austria 82,409 31,818 0.055 %
117 French Guiana 82,200 31,738 0.055 %
118 Czechia 77,240 29,823 0.052 %
119 Panama 74,340 28,703 0.050 %
120 Sierra Leone 72,180 27,869 0.048 %
121 Georgia 69,490 26,830 0.047 %
122 Ireland 68,890 26,599 0.046 %
123 Sri Lanka 62,710 24,212 0.042 %
124 Lithuania 62,674 24,199 0.042 %
125 Latvia 62,200 24,016 0.042 %
126 Croatia 55,960 21,606 0.038 %
127 Togo 54,390 21,000 0.037 %
128 Costa Rica 51,060 19,714 0.034 %
129 Bosnia and Herzegovina 51,000 19,691 0.034 %
130 Dominican Republic 48,320 18,656 0.032 %
131 Slovakia 48,088 18,567 0.032 %
132 Denmark 42,430 16,382 0.028 %
133 Estonia 42,390 16,367 0.028 %
134 Switzerland 39,516 15,257 0.027 %
135 Bhutan 38,117 14,717 0.026 %
136 Taiwan 35,410 13,672 0.024 %
137 Netherlands 33,720 13,019 0.023 %
138 Moldova 32,850 12,683 0.022 %
139 Lesotho 30,360 11,722 0.020 %
140 Belgium 30,280 11,691 0.020 %
141 Armenia 28,470 10,992 0.019 %
142 Guinea-Bissau 28,120 10,857 0.019 %
143 Equatorial Guinea 28,050 10,830 0.019 %
144 Solomon Islands 27,990 10,807 0.019 %
145 Haiti 27,560 10,641 0.019 %
146 Albania 27,400 10,579 0.018 %
147 Burundi 25,680 9,915 0.017 %
148 Republic of North Macedonia 25,220 9,737 0.017 %
149 Rwanda 24,670 9,525 0.017 %
150 Djibouti 23,180 8,950 0.016 %
151 Belize 22,810 8,807 0.015 %
152 Israel 21,640 8,355 0.015 %
153 El Salvador 20,720 8,000 0.014 %
154 Slovenia 20,140 7,776 0.014 %
155 New Caledonia 18,280 7,058 0.012 %
156 Fiji 18,270 7,054 0.012 %
157 Kuwait 17,820 6,880 0.012 %
158 Eswatini 17,200 6,641 0.012 %
159 Timor-Leste 14,870 5,741 0.010 %
160 Montenegro 13,450 5,193 0.009 %
161 Vanuatu 12,190 4,707 0.008 %
162 Falkland Islands 12,170 4,699 0.008 %
163 Qatar 11,610 4,483 0.008 %
164 Jamaica 10,830 4,181 0.007 %
165 Lebanon 10,230 3,950 0.007 %
166 Gambia 10,120 3,907 0.007 %
167 Bahamas 10,010 3,865 0.007 %
168 Cyprus 9,240 3,568 0.006 %
169 Puerto Rico 8,870 3,425 0.006 %
170 State of Palestine 6,020 2,324 0.004 %
171 Brunei Darussalam 5,270 2,035 0.004 %
172 Trinidad and Tobago 5,130 1,981 0.003 %
173 Cabo Verde 4,030 1,556 0.003 %
174 French Polynesia 3,660 1,413 0.002 %
175 Samoa 2,830 1,093 0.002 %
176 Luxembourg 2,590 1,000 0.002 %
177 Réunion 2,500 965 0.002 %
178 Mauritius 2,030 784 0.001 %
179 Comoros 1,861 719 0.001 %
180 Guadeloupe 1,690 653 0.001 %
181 Faeroe Islands 1,396 539 0.001 %
182 Martinique 1,060 409 0.001 %
183 China, Hong Kong SAR 1,050 405 0.001 %
184 Sao Tome and Principe 960 371 0.001 %
185 Turks and Caicos Islands 950 367 0.001 %
186 Kiribati 810 313 0.001 %
187 Bahrain 760 293 0.001 %
188 Dominica 750 290 0.001 %
189 Tonga 720 278 0.000 %
190 Singapore 700 270 0.000 %
190 Micronesia 700 270 0.000 %
191 Saint Lucia 610 236 0.000 %
192 Isle of Man 570 220 0.000 %
193 Guam 540 208 0.000 %
194 Andorra 470 181 0.000 %
195 Northern Mariana Islands 460 178 0.000 %
195 Palau 460 178 0.000 %
195 Seychelles 460 178 0.000 %
196 Curaçao 444 171 0.000 %
197 Antigua and Barbuda 440 170 0.000 %
198 Barbados 430 166 0.000 %
199 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 390 151 0.000 %
199 Saint Helena 390 151 0.000 %
200 Mayotte 375 145 0.000 %
201 United States Virgin Islands 350 135 0.000 %
202 Grenada 340 131 0.000 %
203 Caribbean Netherlands 328 127 0.000 %
204 Malta 320 124 0.000 %
205 Maldives 300 116 0.000 %
206 Saint Kitts and Nevis 260 100 0.000 %
206 Niue 260 100 0.000 %
207 Cook Islands 240 93 0.000 %
207 Cayman Islands 240 93 0.000 %
208 Saint Pierre and Miquelon 230 89 0.000 %
209 American Samoa 200 77 0.000 %
210 Channel Islands 190 73 0.000 %
211 Marshall Islands 180 69 0.000 %
211 Aruba 180 69 0.000 %
212 Liechtenstein 160 62 0.000 %
213 British Virgin Islands 150 58 0.000 %
214 Wallis and Futuna Islands 140 54 0.000 %
215 Montserrat 100 39 0.000 %
216 Anguilla 90 35 0.000 %
217 San Marino 60 23 0.000 %
218 Saint Martin 53 20 0.000 %
219 Bermuda 50 19 0.000 %
220 Sint Maarten 34 13 0.000 %
221 China, Macao SAR 30 12 0.000 %
221 Tuvalu 30 12 0.000 %
222 Saint Barthélemy 21 8 0.000 %
223 Nauru 20 8 0.000 %
224 Tokelau 10 4 0.000 %
224 Gibraltar 10 4 0.000 %
225 Monaco 1 1 0.000 %
226 Holy See 0 0 0.000 %
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Re: LL82: LearnedLeague

Post by This Is Kirk! » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:03 pm

twelvefootboy wrote:
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Canada is an island?
Canada is not an island, but neither is Denmark. However, both possess large islands "under their domain."

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Re: LL82: LearnedLeague

Post by TenPoundHammer » Thu Sep 12, 2019 6:15 pm

Nice of them to throw me a bone with the Folsom Prison/San Quentin question. Yes, I own both albums.
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Re: LL82: LearnedLeague

Post by BigDaddyMatty » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:20 pm

alietr wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:00 am
I'm curious about people who got Fill or Kill. Did you just guess? Did you know it? I consider myself very well versed in finance and I don't think I have ever heard that phrase before (but I don't deal with trading admittedly).
No way I'd have gotten it if not for my investments course back in business school.
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Re: LL82: LearnedLeague

Post by teapot37 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:10 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:46 am
teapot37 wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:35 am
MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:20 am
My opponent & I appropriately zeroed each other on Sister, Sister. Where I won the match was getting Foley for 3 points. My vague recollection is learning the name from the Lisa Whelchel era of The New Mickey Mouse Club visiting the Disney guy and seeing stuff such as coconuts for horse trots.
psst... Lisa Whelchel was from The Facts of Life (and later Survivor). Did you mean Keri Russell, maybe?
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Re: LL82: LearnedLeague

Post by seaborgium » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:25 am

A Greek-derived compound related to reptiles was so obviously "amphibian" to me that I never had a chance.

On Romanov, however, I did have a chance, and I blew it by being sure that Nicholas II couldn't have been in the same dynasty as Catherine the Great. I said Ottoman, which, along with being a poor fit for the use of "its country" in the question, ruled from a lot earlier than 1613. This one cost me a tie, as my opponent went 9(6) and gave me 0 for "dinosaur."

Now I'm up against BlishS in public and RutterB in private. Heaven help me.

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Re: LL82: LearnedLeague

Post by boson » Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:21 am

I was doubly lost on the dinosaur question: I figured someone characterizing reptiles may have first used the Greek word describing systematic organization of living beings. Then I couldn't dredge the word "taxonomy " from my brain, let alone get away from this concept and get to the right one.

Then I said Mary Magdalene instead of Pontius Pilate. Sigh.

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