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Friday, September 27, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Archivists » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:45 am

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Re: Friday, September 27, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Archivists » Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:45 am

DJ! Round

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Post by theFJguy » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:03 am

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
EPITAPHS

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
From his own 1898 poem, the epitaph of this Irish-born man ends, “his mourners will be outcast men, & outcasts always mourn”

Gabe Brison-Trezise: 15600-8801=6799
Steve St. John: 12200-6205=5995
Laurel Lathrop: 18400+12801=31201 (New Champ)

Correct response:
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Oscar Wilde (Gabe – Yeats) (Steve – Yeates)

Daily Doubles
Gabe: minus 400+1000
Laurel: 14600+3000
Gabe: 6400+6400

Coryats
Gabe: 10600
Steve: 12200
Laurel: 16600

Combined: 39,400

Scores at the end of the Jeopardy! Round
Gabe: 2000
Steve: 600
Laurel: 7400

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Re: Friday, September 27, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by MarkBarrett » Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:04 am

Alex's opening explained about Jason not being in this year's ToC while saying he would be in next year's one. Okay, we'll hold Alex to that for a ToC in 2020. Time will tell.

First selection of the game with Gabe in charge? MUSEUM PODGE $1000 Overall the clue selection was all over the place with more top box visiting than has been the norm lately.

It was a long shot since he has not been in a clue since 2014 and not asked for a response since 2009, still I was wishing for a Yanni clue today with a Laurel playing. Laurel had one of those "nice try" moments when she attempted to ring in a second time.

Steve said Maxwell tape? [springs trap door]

The game had the players all in five-figures for the FJ! round and a respectable 39400 Coryat while at times it felt like it was not going as well with plenty of Lach trash available and 5 clues (my poor Coryat could have used those TV and Movies clues) not played.

Smooth victory by Laurel in charge for a lot of the game and getting the sole solve.

The FJ! clue had me ready for the weekend too early as I wrote Joyce and put the pen down and doing a mental coin flip with Yeats. I was mentally checking boxes for Irish, poet, and 1898 okay for time frame. My problem was I was thinking the right guy while I wrote the wrong name in some kind of reflexive error. With about 7 seconds to go and looking at my paper I had the realization of, "Not Joyce! You idiot. It's the other guy!" Fortunately, a switch to another 5-letter guy does not take long and I was able to instantly recall the correct name. Definitely, a brow-wiper to avoid a senseless miss.

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Re: Friday, September 27, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Hugo Z » Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:59 pm

I thought "outcast men" was the key phrase here.

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Re: Friday, September 27, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Bigdogstalfos » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:25 pm

Hugo Z wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:59 pm
I thought "outcast men" was the key phrase here.
That and Irish-born strongly implies his grave is not in Ireland/UK based on the years, like it’s maybe in Paris...

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Re: Friday, September 27, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Ironhorse » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:38 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:04 am
Alex's opening explained about Jason not being in this year's ToC while saying he would be in next year's one. Okay, we'll hold Alex to that for a ToC in 2020. Time will tell.
He also concluded somebody's 2018 run by saying "s/he will appear in this year's ToC" so I'm not reading anything into it.
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Re: Friday, September 27, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Ironhorse » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:41 pm

Hugo Z wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:59 pm
I thought "outcast men" was the key phrase here.
I agree that was the primary TOM, though if that didn't do the trick, Wilde was famous for his use of antithesis such as appears in this particular quotation.
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Re: Friday, September 27, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by mas3cf » Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:57 pm

Hugo Z wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:59 pm
I thought "outcast men" was the key phrase here.
That's what led my thinking down the right road.

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Re: Friday, September 27, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by MarkBarrett » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:19 pm

It's done in the Archive: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6426

That makes 15 games this season with no 3/3 sweep by the contestants? cheezguyty: How many more games for the record?

I will fill in the money won for Gabe on his bio page and give Laurel the full line for being a champ on hers probably this weekend as I do not want to spoil things too early for someone that may be checking on a player without having seen the game yet.

Or should it be searcher beware of Archive minefields and I should account for status as soon as I input the player name?

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Re: Friday, September 27, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by mahatma » Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:55 pm

Bigdogstalfos wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:25 pm
Hugo Z wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:59 pm
I thought "outcast men" was the key phrase here.
That and Irish-born strongly implies his grave is not in Ireland/UK based on the years, like it’s maybe in Paris...
Didn't Yeats die in France, too?

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Re: Friday, September 27, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Bigdogstalfos » Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:04 pm

mahatma wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:55 pm
Bigdogstalfos wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:25 pm
Hugo Z wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:59 pm
I thought "outcast men" was the key phrase here.
That and Irish-born strongly implies his grave is not in Ireland/UK based on the years, like it’s maybe in Paris...
Didn't Yeats die in France, too?
Huh, you’re right. I never would have guessed. I always assumed he died/was buried in Ireland as he’s kind of the literary figure for Irish Republicanism. The more you know!

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Re: Friday, September 27, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Robert K S » Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:16 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:19 pm
Or should it be searcher beware of Archive minefields and I should account for status as soon as I input the player name?
IMHO searcher beware, the Archive being a prima facie spoiler zone. But OTOH I don't mind if the player details don't go in until a streak is over.

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Post by mas3cf » Fri Sep 27, 2019 4:18 pm

Brutal episode for me. After 51 R yesterday, only 31 today. Loaded up with my weakest categories: kids lit, alcohol, TV, movies. On top of that, I was tongue-tied for most of the wordplay category in DD. Ouch.

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Post by CasualJeopardyFan19 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:29 pm

And the Giant Killer curse returns in full force! Congrats to Laurel on a well played game, though it is a shame that Emma's streak carried no coattails for Gabe today.

I will admit though, it is hard for me to go back to the "start at the top" approach after the greatness of James and Jason. Given the fact that it seems like only the greatest of champions are going to implement the "bottom up" approach from here on out I guess I gotta get used to it, but those 2 really got me hooked on that style of play.

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Re: Friday, September 27, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by cheezguyty » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:08 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:19 pm
That makes 15 games this season with no 3/3 sweep by the contestants? cheezguyty: How many more games for the record?
Season 33 didn't have a triple get until the 21st game. Seasons 3 and 5 may have gone even longer. There is not a triple get among the first 29 archived FJs for Season 3 (of course, there are still many games missing from that stretch).

The longest overall run of games I could find without a 3/3 on FJ is the 36 regular games between October 23 and December 25, 2012 2002.

[edited to correct typo]
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Re: Friday, September 27, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Lefty » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:15 pm

It was obviously not going to be the right answer, but I think Patrick Pearse would have been a respectable FJ response. I always liked his comment on the eve of the Easter Rising, "If we do nothing else, we shall rid Ireland of three bad poets" (i.e., himself plus two others who will never come up on the show). He seemed to fit the substance of the clue quote almost as well as Wilde. I think "Irish-born" rather than simply "Irish" was to acknowledge significant English blood in Wilde, though of course that might also point one to Yeats. But Yeats's actual epitaph is pretty famous and to have continued beyond "horseman, pass by!" would have been anticlimactic. I also noted that the meter of the quote matched what I remembered of "Reading Gaol".
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Re: Friday, September 27, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by CasketRomance » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:35 pm

got the final jeopardy clue by default...can name 3 irish dudes associated with writing..chose the right one

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Re: Friday, September 27, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by econgator » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:48 pm

CasketRomance wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:35 pm
got the final jeopardy clue by default...can name 3 irish dudes associated with writing..chose the right one
So ... not by default, then ...

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Re: Friday, September 27, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by CasketRomance » Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:50 pm

econgator wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:48 pm
CasketRomance wrote:
Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:35 pm
got the final jeopardy clue by default...can name 3 irish dudes associated with writing..chose the right one
So ... not by default, then ...
kind of...went with the one i knew died earliest...gussed that the 1898 in the clue was a year close to the death of that dude

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