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Re: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Woof » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:19 pm

Not a bad game at all. Like others, it was Stein or nobody for me. Anyone know if Ed is related to former champ Nick Condon?

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Post by davey » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:53 pm

Arguably, "there is no there there," which she wrote about Oakland, CA, her childhood home, is Stein's most famous quote. I'll bet a lot of people think Shakespeare wrote "Rose is a rose is a rose"...

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Post by mas3cf » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:24 am

talkingaway wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:32 pm

Anyone else mix up Erik the Red with Erik'sson, Leif? Nobody? Just me?
That used to be a coin flip for me... what works pretty well is... if the year is almost exactly 1000, it's Leif. If it's a generation earlier than 1000, it's Erik.

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Post by twelvefootboy » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:40 am

I don't see how people sussed out Stein for their random WAG. If you don't know the notoriety of the quote, then the only TOM is "serious author that sold out and did a children's book", or something like that. I went with Buck as well, but wondered about Mitchell or Christie (but British, so no go there).

Ed may have some legs. He had buzzer mojo and answered hard questions, especially that British pop culture category. Erin's music strength didn't help her today.

Of course Telemundo/Univision is a coin flip if you are a gringo. Either learn the popular shows or play the roulette if you are feeling lucky. I would never want to try to identify the network of an American show. I know 60 Minutes is on CBS, and ... well, that's it. I have to look for Monday Night Football every week. FWIW, Booger is getting better in the booth. He tried to be John Madden when he started, just bloviating out noise.
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Re: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by talkingaway » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:42 am

davey wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:53 pm
Arguably, "there is no there there," which she wrote about Oakland, CA, her childhood home, is Stein's most famous quote. I'll bet a lot of people think Shakespeare wrote "Rose is a rose is a rose"...
No, but while I was frustrated with myself for not knowing who wrote that, my brain did wander into "(A rose) by any other name would smell as sweet". Iambic pentameter, which I first learned from an episode of Moonlighting in the 80s when I was about 11 or 12, when David and Maddie broke the fourth wall to claim they hated Shakespeare and his iambic pentameter.

The original "Rose is a rose is a rose is a rose" is more dactylic trimeter with an extra stressed syllable at the end. Of course, the category itself was more than enough to eliminate Shakespeare tonight on three separate counts....and meter is far from a good indicator of who wrote the line, anyway.

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Post by Lefty » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:20 am

CasketRomance wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:21 pm
came up with nothing for the final jeopardy clue...heard of stein, but i know nothing about her other than being involved somehow in literature
Though not at all analogous, your comment reminded me of a quote which I'd assumed was sort of famous but a Google search turns up only one match! So, sorry, but lest it be lost to posterity, New York Magazine in 1994 asked MTV talk show host Jon Stewart "do you know the difference between RAM and ROM?" JS--"Yes. Ram is an animal, and rom...rom has something to do with computers."

As for Eric vs. Leif, father discovered Greenland while son discovered America, which is about what one would expect.

I hope I'd have laid off the one about the Mexican TV stations.
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Post by MinnesotaMyron » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:21 am

Telemundo has appeared only once as a correct response, and that with a "Spanish for world" hint. Guess Univision if you're going to guess, it's the bigger network anyway. (Based of my J-Archive search, Telemundo has better name recognition, as it's a popular wrong guess. Beavis and Butthead brought popular attention the name, back in the day.)

They've also twice asked for the translation of Raul de Molina's nickname "El Gordo", which is just mean.

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Post by econgator » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:29 am

MarkBarrett wrote:
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Ouch for anyone who gets to the quote and does not know the name.
That'd be me.

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Post by CasketRomance » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:51 am

MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:21 am
Telemundo has appeared only once as a correct response, and that with a "Spanish for world" hint. Guess Univision if you're going to guess, it's the bigger network anyway. (Based of my J-Archive search, Telemundo has better name recognition, as it's a popular wrong guess. Beavis and Butthead brought popular attention the name, back in the day.)

They've also twice asked for the translation of Raul de Molina's nickname "El Gordo", which is just mean.
never heard of that person..el gordo was a character on season 4 of queen of the south

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Re: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by This Is Kirk! » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:32 am

I still don't understand why that "rose is a rose..." quote is famous.

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Post by goongas » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:47 am

I really have to brush up on my Gertrude Stein, she has come up twice recently in trivia. I know nothing about her other than she was an ex pat writer who lived in Paris. She never came up in any of my English classes.

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Post by Woof » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:11 am

MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:21 am
Telemundo has appeared only once as a correct response, and that with a "Spanish for world" hint. Guess Univision if you're going to guess, it's the bigger network anyway. (Based of my J-Archive search, Telemundo has better name recognition, as it's a popular wrong guess. Beavis and Butthead brought popular attention the name, back in the day.)

They've also twice asked for the translation of Raul de Molina's nickname "El Gordo", which is just mean.
When I was a kid, there was a comic run in the SF Chronicle (aka the Comical) called "Gordo." No translation provided, though.

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Post by econgator » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:50 am

This Is Kirk! wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:32 am
I still don't understand why that "rose is a rose..." quote is famous.
I got nothing.

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Post by Robert K S » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:22 pm

Or any more famous than any of the other blatherskite in that poem, reproduced here in its entirety (pretty sure it's public domain at this point).
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Re: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by BigDaddyMatty » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:24 pm

Coryat: 33,000
45 R/2 W
DD: 2/3
FJ: :mrgreen:
LT: Gustav Holst

I don't know if my blood sugar is off or what, but I felt jumpy this whole game and never really got into a groove. Starting off by losing the "explorers named Erik" coin flip, not being able to to pull the "pathfinder = Fremont" Pavlov, and clamming on the fairly easy $1,000 Livingstone clue certainly didn't help matters. OTOH, I was able to pull Wimpole Street, Holst, and Tales of Hoffmann, so it wasn't a total loss.

Throwing in "16th century" on that Maya clue was nasty. Like Ed, I confidently negged that one with Aztec.

What the frickety frack is the deal with contestants not wanting to win? Erin was getting swamped $24,600 to $7,800 when she hit DD3. There was only $11,600 left on the board. If she misses, she's essentially dead. Bet. It. All. Instead, she spits out the Pavlovian $4,000 wager. Grrrrrr.
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Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:32 pm
Anyone else mix up Erik the Red with Erik'sson, Leif? Nobody? Just me?
*Raises hand sheepishly* The whole time, I was thinking, "Don't do it. This sounds more like Eric the Red." Should've listened to me. Then again, given my track record, if I were me, I wouldn't listen to me either.
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I don't see how people sussed out Stein for their random WAG.
It wasn't a random WAG. As others have noted, Stein is famous for her line "Rose is a rose is a rose is a rose." I'm sure some people know it from a literature course or because they're into pseudointellectual poetry. For the rest of us schmoes, it's just a thing that comes up a lot on J!
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Post by morbeedo » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:15 pm

mas3cf wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:24 am
talkingaway wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:32 pm

Anyone else mix up Erik the Red with Erik'sson, Leif? Nobody? Just me?
That used to be a coin flip for me... what works pretty well is... if the year is almost exactly 1000, it's Leif. If it's a generation earlier than 1000, it's Erik.
I’m in the midst of a deep dive on EXPLORERS, so I nailed it. Got a little brain-tied on Livingstone and Fremont, however :/

Not a great DJ round for me, either. Yikes.

Disappointed that I knee-jerked to Lansbury right over Bergman for the Gaslight clue :(

Remedial subject: alloys!

I didn’t really put much thought into final, but not sure I would have got there. For some reason, I went to Roosevelt / Carter and never got out of that loop

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Post by mas3cf » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:23 pm

morbeedo wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:15 pm
mas3cf wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:24 am
talkingaway wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:32 pm

Anyone else mix up Erik the Red with Erik'sson, Leif? Nobody? Just me?
That used to be a coin flip for me... what works pretty well is... if the year is almost exactly 1000, it's Leif. If it's a generation earlier than 1000, it's Erik.
I’m in the midst of a deep dive on EXPLORERS, so I nailed it. Got a little brain-tied on Livingstone and Fremont, however :/

Not a great DJ round for me, either. Yikes.

Disappointed that I knee-jerked to Lansbury right over Bergman for the Gaslight clue :(

Remedial subject: alloys!

I didn’t really put much thought into final, but not sure I would have got there. For some reason, I went to Roosevelt / Carter and never got out of that loop
Fremont is one I can never come up with for whatever reason. Whenever they say "This explorer did XYZ" and I think "I never heard of anyone who did XYZ" it's almost guaranteed to be Fremont. You'd think I would have broken down and read his Wikipedia article by now...

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Post by LucarioSnooperVixey » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:52 pm

55 R (Missed Morning TV Shows $1000(Said Rachel Maddow.) and Pop Culture $400 & $2000.)
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Post by LucarioSnooperVixey » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:56 pm

talkingaway wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:32 pm
Anyone else mix up Erik the Red with Erik'sson, Leif? Nobody? Just me?
BigDaddyMatty wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:24 pm
Starting off by losing the "explorers named Erik" coin flip
980, Greenland == Erik the Red

1000's, Canada, Vinland == Leif Erikson
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Post by LucarioSnooperVixey » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:05 pm

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I instantly rejected "television" on the latter because wasn't that Philo T. Farnsworth?
The clue said "claimant" as the inventor. In the UK, John Logie Baird is said to be the inventor of the television.

Another such claimant of the invention is Vladimir Zworykin.
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