Monday, October 28, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

[davey]

Yes, even Alex was taken aback by the Lewis Carroll stand-and-stare.

Now a good poll question would be, "I fully expected a reversal on the jack-o'-lantern clue during the interviews."

Can we leave off "fully"? I'm wishy-washy on the whole thing, but I did kind of expect a reversal... because, as Kirk said, it's nit-picking.

[alietr]

Yeah. I felt pretty good about it while totally blowing past the Roebling clue. John and Washington Roebling being the architects

Ahem, engineers.

What's the difference? (I'm hoping for at least one punchline supplied by each side here.)

An architect could design a pretty bridge, but without the help of a civil engineer that pretty bridge could end up in the river rather than spanning it.

Seattle, huh? ... Say, aren't you close to where Galloping Gertie used to be?

And for those who have never seen it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-zczJXSxnw

[mahatma]

Yeah. I felt pretty good about it while totally blowing past the Roebling clue. John and Washington Roebling being the architects

Ahem, engineers.

What's the difference? (I'm hoping for at least one punchline supplied by each side here.)

An architect could design a pretty bridge, but without the help of a civil engineer that pretty bridge could end up in the river rather than spanning it.

Seattle, huh? ... Say, aren't you close to where Galloping Gertie used to be?

And for those who have never seen it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-zczJXSxnw

I don't think you can blame that one on architects. That was engineers all the way, and even after it failed, the engineers had a really hard time figuring out why.

[alietr]

Ahem, engineers.

What's the difference? (I'm hoping for at least one punchline supplied by each side here.)

An architect could design a pretty bridge, but without the help of a civil engineer that pretty bridge could end up in the river rather than spanning it.

Seattle, huh? ... Say, aren't you close to where Galloping Gertie used to be?

And for those who have never seen it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-zczJXSxnw

I don't think you can blame that one on architects. That was engineers all the way, and even after it failed, the engineers had a really hard time figuring out why.

I wasn't assigning blame, but it was at least somewhat implied that engineers were responsible given Kirk's comment.

[mahatma]

I wasn't assigning blame, but it was at least somewhat implied that engineers were responsible given Kirk's comment.

Interesting. I read Kirk!'s comments exactly the opposite: that engineers are involved to make sure the architects' pretty designs don't fall down. As someone who is both (although currently practicing neither), I was hoping Opus's suggestion would bear more fruit.

Either way, the TNB collapse wormhole brought up an interesting nugget re blame. One of the engineers who analyzed the failure stated that (and I paraphrase) when we try to do something beyond our existing capabilities, a certain amount of failure is to be expected, and that we should focus on learning from it rather than assigning blame for it.

[opusthepenguin]

The pumpkin clue is turning into a spinning dancer for me. I can read it either way and both ways are compelling. I think it depends on whether you read it as having an implied resumption of the word "using". I.e. "A Celtic tradition of using hollowed-out turnips with candles inside led to [using] these distinctive & larger Halloween gourds." That's one reasonable way of resolving the syntactical difficulty. The alternative is to leave the wording clumsily saying that jack-o-lanterns are gourds, which is like saying my teak table is a tropical hardwood. I mean... I guess so?

[davey]

Since this seems to be a topic, here's an article from today's NYTimes-

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/29/nyre ... 5420541029

[opusthepenguin]

I wasn't assigning blame, but it was at least somewhat implied that engineers were responsible given Kirk's comment.

Interesting. I read Kirk!'s comments exactly the opposite: that engineers are involved to make sure the architects' pretty designs don't fall down.

Exactly. So when the pretty design DOES fall down, who's responsible?

[mahatma]

I wasn't assigning blame, but it was at least somewhat implied that engineers were responsible given Kirk's comment.

Interesting. I read Kirk!'s comments exactly the opposite: that engineers are involved to make sure the architects' pretty designs don't fall down.

Exactly. So when the pretty design DOES fall down, who's responsible?

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[alietr]

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Where is the damn Like button??

[davey]

A bigger injustice??…OK, we can differ on when a gourd becomes a decoration, but...

Meret Oppenheim's Object was first shown in the US in an exhibition called...

Fantastic Art, Dada, Surrealism at the Museum of Modern Art in New York!

http://www.visual-arts-cork.com/sculptu ... enheim.htm

[This Is Kirk!]

I wasn't assigning blame, but it was at least somewhat implied that engineers were responsible given Kirk's comment.

Interesting. I read Kirk!'s comments exactly the opposite: that engineers are involved to make sure the architects' pretty designs don't fall down.

Exactly. So when the pretty design DOES fall down, who's responsible?

The other guy.

[TenPoundHammer]

While I did get the Lach Trash, I thought Lewis Carroll's real name was a bit YEKIOYD for the top box. Better than that FJ! where you had to try and decode long-ass anagrams of his name.

There are two types of people in this world: those who enjoy making anagrams, and wooden hotshot.

[opusthepenguin]

While I did get the Lach Trash, I thought Lewis Carroll's real name was a bit YEKIOYD for the top box.

A lot of top box stuff is YEKIOYDBIYOJWAYD.

[LucarioSnooperVixey]

59 R (Missed just the VERY LAST clue. Darn!)
DD: 3/3
FJ:
LT: Cartilage, Cobble, Running on Empty, Surrealism, Kettlebell, Lewis Carroll, (John Le Carre), Samothrace, As Many Reps as Possible

[TenPoundHammer]

While I did get the Lach Trash, I thought Lewis Carroll's real name was a bit YEKIOYD for the top box.

A lot of top box stuff is YEKIOYDBIYOJWAYD.

I like that. I'll have to use that the next time I play Scrabble.

[morbeedo]

A bigger injustice??…OK, we can differ on when a gourd becomes a decoration, but...

Meret Oppenheim's Object was first shown in the US in an exhibition called...

Fantastic Art, Dada, Surrealism at the Museum of Modern Art in New York!

http://www.visual-arts-cork.com/sculptu ... enheim.htm

Well, I had Dada, too, but after Diana was negged, I knew what they wanted. Unlike Kris, who thought they were going for Dada + ism

Ack! I couldn't spit out AMRAP or P90X - knew 'em both but got tongue-tied.

Picked up most of the trash in this game. Cartilage? Really?

[CasketRomance]

While I did get the Lach Trash, I thought Lewis Carroll's real name was a bit YEKIOYD for the top box.

A lot of top box stuff is YEKIOYDBIYOJWAYD.

What does that even mean, dude?

[twelvefootboy]

I saw this ep a day late. I have no position on the jack-o-lantern clue.

But what is the full name of the "celebrity"? Never mind - Wink Martindale. Heard of the name because I am wired for that but no idea who it is (could have been the lady). Twelvefootgirl and I sat in those exact seats for the morning taping we attended.

Got the bridge easy enough. I had forgotten the backstory that he didn't live to see it finished. Tuesday (regular clue) pseudo-spoiler:

Spoiler

I wonder if he considered making it out of balsa wood?