Friday, November 1, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

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Re: Friday, November 1, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Robert K S » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:02 pm

polaris wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:35 pm
Over 250 million of us and outnumber Adventists 10 to 1, so while that is a good guess I wouldn't call it negbait or the right answer inside baseball.
I mean, negbait isn't required to have a correct response that is obscure--it just has to "bait" a wrong response, which, if there's any dispute about it, see the contestants' responses, or this week's poll (I bet).

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Re: Friday, November 1, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by John Boy » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:19 pm

Lefty wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:22 pm
Hugo Z wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:18 am
Wow, I went for the negbait(is that the right term?) too.
IMO, it is not. Negbait tempts a half-informed player to ring in and neg with the obvious response, and has an overall detrimental effect to the show because it tends to cause gun-shyness, thus silence, thus less entertainment for the home viewer. It also seems unfair to its immediate victim because his incomplete knowledge caused him to lose ground to two opponents who perhaps didn't know enough to be wrong.
I always thought chomping on negbait put you at a disadvantage because your "incomplete knowledge" causes you to lose the clue and the points (and possibly the game) to someone with more complete knowledge. I guess that's just my take on things.

In this case I was sufficiently conversant with the New Testament to get Pentecost immediately, that day when "the disciples were gathered in one place" and the Holy Spirit descended on them like tongues of fire. I'm not surprised that one contestant missed that but I was quite shocked to see it a TS.

On another note, I'm accustomed to hearing contestants say words that they have apparently never heard themselves, but perhaps only read about, and don't know how to pronounce them correctly. I've done that myself, to be sure. That said, I've never heard (as Andrew said in this game) the "TIE-ber" River called the "Tibber." And of course he also seems unfamiliar with Lincoln Logs, which seems unfathomable for anyone who was ever a child in America.

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Re: Friday, November 1, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Foretopman » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:28 pm

i don't think this FJ! was too "inside baseball". I'm not a particularly religious person, and this was an instaget for me. I really think this is just part of the stuff you ought to know (both for Jeopardy! and for living in the world).

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Re: Friday, November 1, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by hbomb1947 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:32 pm

Foretopman wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:28 pm
i don't think this FJ! was too "inside baseball". I'm not a particularly religious person, and this was an instaget for me. I really think this is just part of the stuff you ought to know (both for Jeopardy! and for living in the world).
I fell for the negbait, and yes, this is inside baseball as you had to know the New Testament event from which the movement (apparently incorrectly referred to in the clue as a denomination) took its name. As a Jewish atheist, this just wasn't something I had come across in my readings of and about the Bible, although I've heard of Pentecostalism.
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Re: Friday, November 1, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by mas3cf » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:39 pm

I didn't get to watch the game... was there TOM in the video clue that would have told you Johnson Space Center vs. Kennedy Space Center?

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Re: Friday, November 1, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by hbomb1947 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:59 pm

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Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:39 pm
I didn't get to watch the game... was there TOM in the video clue that would have told you Johnson Space Center vs. Kennedy Space Center?
The wording of the clue said Mission Control. Mission Control is in Houston ("Houston, we have a problem.") The facility in Houston is the Johnson Space Center.
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Re: Friday, November 1, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by mas3cf » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:25 pm

hbomb1947 wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:59 pm
mas3cf wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 8:39 pm
I didn't get to watch the game... was there TOM in the video clue that would have told you Johnson Space Center vs. Kennedy Space Center?
The wording of the clue said Mission Control. Mission Control is in Houston ("Houston, we have a problem.") The facility in Houston is the Johnson Space Center.
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Re: Friday, November 1, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Category 13 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:36 pm

econgator wrote:
Robert K S wrote:
Hugo Z wrote: Wow, I went for the negbait(is that the right term?)
Yes, I think this clue can appropriately be classified as negbait
Absolutely.

I've never heard of Pentecostalism.
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Post by sarisson » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:50 pm

How was that Final a TS?! I thought one person might miss with Seventh Day Adventist, but I could never have expected all three of them would give the same incorrect response. "On the seventh day, He rested"... right?
Pentecostalism isn't obscure; you've all seen Assembly of God churches, right? That's the largest Pentecostal denomination in the world.
I had two roommates my freshman year of college: one belonged to the "negbait"; the other belonged to the correct response. We all got along but I haven't heard from them in years.
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Re: Friday, November 1, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by CasketRomance » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:58 pm

sarisson wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:50 pm
How was that Final a TS?! I thought one person might miss with Seventh Day Adventist, but I could never have expected all three of them would give the same incorrect response. "On the seventh day, He rested"... right?
Pentecostalism isn't obscure; you've all seen Assembly of God churches, right? That's the largest Pentecostal denomination in the world.
I had two roommates my freshman year of college: one belonged to the "negbait"; the other belonged to the correct response. We all got along but I haven't heard from them in years.
never heard of pentecostal before

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Post by CasketRomance » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:58 pm

and there is the sweep...the showing using lame religious material for the final clue allowed me to go 0 for 5 for the week..weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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Re: Friday, November 1, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by CasketRomance » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:59 pm

Category 13 wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:36 pm
econgator wrote:
Robert K S wrote:
Hugo Z wrote: Wow, I went for the negbait(is that the right term?)
Yes, I think this clue can appropriately be classified as negbait
Absolutely.

I've never heard of Pentecostalism.
TPH, is that you?
put me down as another person who has never heard of it before

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Post by CasketRomance » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:02 pm

dumb final jeopardy clue aside, the wagers by the trailing 2 contestants were even dumber...awful wagering...that dude should never have won on a triple stumper

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Post by hbomb1947 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:14 pm

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The wagering? The board comments about wanting another superchamp woman player cannot happen with that kind of betting.
Christine's all-in wager was actually a reasonable choice in response to the Stratton's Dilemma she was in (although my personal preference is usually to bet small in that scenario).
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Re: Friday, November 1, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Rackme32 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:36 pm

I've heard of Pentecostal and the name briefly flashed thru my head... But not knowing what it was, I went off to 7th-Day Adventistville.

I went to a parochial high school which I loved except for the churchy part... So there ya go.

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Post by Volante » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:38 pm

Weirdly, had I been able to come up with the right answer, I would've gotten it. "It's that one that starts with a number in a foreign language probably..."
The closest I got was 'P'...and then moved on... :roll:

7th day never came to mind.

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Re: Friday, November 1, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by hbomb1947 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:48 pm

Volante wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:38 pm
Weirdly, had I been able to come up with the right answer, I would've gotten it.
Curiously, I can say the same thing for each and every FJ I've missed this season. :lol:
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Post by Volante » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:53 pm

hbomb1947 wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:48 pm
Volante wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:38 pm
Weirdly, had I been able to come up with the right answer, I would've gotten it.
Curiously, I can say the same thing for each and every FJ I've missed this season. :lol:
Touché... though the partial quote does leave out some context ;)

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Post by Danmel » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:18 pm

I got Pentacostal because I know someone who was raised in s pentacostal family in rural Indiana and now lives in Brooklyn and is in a relationship with a Jewish man. She tells stories of people speaking in tongues and laying hands and handling snakes. Hard to forget.

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Post by twelvefootboy » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:36 pm

Rackme32 wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:36 pm
I've heard of Pentecostal and the name briefly flashed thru my head... But not knowing what it was, I went off to 7th-Day Adventistville.

I went to a parochial high school which I loved except for the churchy part... So there ya go.
I went to a little country church growing up and all I know about the Holy Spirit is that our Preacher stumbled all over himself trying to explain how it's One God, and Three Gods, at the same time, and if you look at it then your cat dies - oh, wait, that might be my Physics prof :)

I took the wordplay bait but only came up with Latter DAY Saints, knowing full well it was wrong. But they use the whole Bible plus the Book of Mormon, and besides, yesterday's FJ taught me that as long as it sounds like something, it could be right :).

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