Fourth Podium Poll for 11/5/2019 - Tuesday TOC (SPOILERS)

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Which of these triple stumpers and missed DDs did you get?

$600 FROCK AROUND THE CLOCK: When it precedes "gown", this 4-letter undergarment is worn for bedtime; before "dress", not for bedtime
9
11%
$800 BEFORE & LAUGHTER: Biblical first man's donation to make his mate that ultimately turns into a term for a joke (Rachel said "Adam's rib" and added "poker" after Alex said "Time's up". Rob then said "Adam's ribbing" and was ruled incorrect. That decision was later reversed.)
39
47%
$2000 GEOGRAPHICA: "Think over" this Scottish term for a cape, like the one "of Kintyre" peninsula
31
37%
$2000 FICTIONAL CHARACTERS: "The Good Earth" begins with Wang Lung's marriage day--to this woman
9
11%
$1600 FICTIONAL CHARACTERS: Hemingway's collections "In Our Time" & "Men Without Women" feature this character based partly on Hemingway
17
20%
$1200 FICTIONAL CHARACTERS: Much of "The Color Purple" is made up of letters written by her to God
32
39%
$2000 PAC-12 SCHOOLS: In 1892 the University of Deseret got this new name
41
49%
$1200 THE DARK AGES: Dark Ages guys Methodius & Cyril went down in history as the fathers of this system (Rob guessed the metric system)
15
18%
$800 PAC-12 SCHOOLS: Bear with us--"Bear Down" isn't UCLA's motto, but that of this school whose mascot is the Wildcat
43
52%
$400 PAC-12 SCHOOLS: The University of Washington opened in 1861 on the outskirts of this then village, pop. 250
44
53%
DD1 in $1000 space for RADIOACTIVE ELEMENTS (Dhruv wagered $3000): These 2 radioactive elements were discovered in 1898
24
29%
DD2 in $800 space for FICTIONAL CHARACTERS (Rob wagered $5400): Jilted on her wedding day, this Dickens character teaches her ward Estella to despise men
52
63%
DD3 in $2000 space for THE DARK AGES (Rob wagered $2000): Before it meant one who attacks received ideas, it meant one who opposed & even broke idols in the Byzantine Empire
39
47%
 
Total votes: 83

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Fourth Podium Poll for 11/5/2019 - Tuesday TOC (SPOILERS)

Post by opusthepenguin » Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:33 pm

Well, you couldn't beat Dhruv even if you picked up all the trash. But you could come in with an even more respectable second place than the one managed by Rachel. And, sigh, if you didn't do that you could still sneak past Rob "It wasn't my night, but I handled defeat with humor and grace and at least I played Final Frickin' Jeopardy!" Worman.

Clues are presented in the order in which they occurred except for the Daily Doubles since those don't count toward a fourth podium score.
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$600 FROCK AROUND THE CLOCK: slip
$800 BEFORE & LAUGHTER: Adam's rib tickler
$2000 GEOGRAPHICA: mull
$2000 FICTIONAL CHARACTERS: O-Lan
$1600 FICTIONAL CHARACTERS: Nick Adams
$1200 FICTIONAL CHARACTERS: Celie
$2000 PAC-12 SCHOOLS: the University of Utah
$1200 THE DARK AGES: the alphabet
$800 PAC-12 SCHOOLS: University of Arizona
$400 PAC-12 SCHOOLS: Seattle
DD1 in $1000 space for RADIOACTIVE ELEMENTS (Dhruv wagered $3000): radium and polonium
DD2 in $800 space for FICTIONAL CHARACTERS (Rob wagered $5400): Miss Havisham
DD3 in $2000 space for THE DARK AGES (Rob wagered $2000): iconoclast

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Re: Fourth Podium Poll for 11/5/2019 - Tuesday TOC (SPOILERS)

Post by Bigdogstalfos » Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:47 pm

Only miss for me here was slip. I definitely got a strong board in DJ with history/lit/geography categories.

Fourth podium could have built up a good head of steam if you nailed the literary characters and doubling on the Havisham DD.

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Post by CasketRomance » Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:56 pm

4400

still trying to figure out why alphabet was the answer for the cyril and methodious clue and not cyrillic alphabet

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Post by MarkBarrett » Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:56 pm

Not my night with getting 2 (Color Purple & Wildcats) and negging 2 (Rib Buster & BYU) for -800 along with 0/4 on the big clues.

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Post by Volante » Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:32 pm

I got Polonium (and Radium). That's all I care to mention. :lol:

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Post by opusthepenguin » Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:37 pm

:| :mrgreen: :| :| :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :| :| :| :| :( :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

I'm only taking $3600 from the fourth podium. That includes the $800 for Adam's rib tickler since they wouldn't have taken that money away even after rightly reversing the decision on Rob's response. Those winnings double to $7200 with the easy FJ. Not a great chance at a wildcard, but not terriblehorrible either. I almost pulled the trigger on mull and Seattle, which would have netted another $2400 and a final total of $12000 after FJ. Now that would be sitting fairly pretty.

I negged with Dhruv in guessing radium and curium. Even as I guessed them, a voice in the back of my head suggested that curium came later and polonium would be a better choice. I did not listen to that voice because it tends to be a smartass.

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Post by Woof » Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:50 pm

:( :mrgreen: :( :( :( :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

In keeping with my comment that these boards played easier for me than last nights (40,200 Coryat vs 31,400) I also got more Lach trash (10,200)

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Post by hbomb1947 » Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:58 pm

I only got Utah, the Cyrillic Alphabet, and the 2 DJ-round DD's
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Re: Fourth Podium Poll for 11/5/2019 - Tuesday TOC (SPOILERS)

Post by Bigdogstalfos » Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:14 pm

opusthepenguin wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:37 pm
:| :mrgreen: :| :| :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :| :| :| :| :( :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

I negged with Dhruv in guessing radium and curium. Even as I guessed them, a voice in the back of my head suggested that curium came later and polonium would be a better choice. I did not listen to that voice because it tends to be a smartass.
FWIW, one of Marie’s Nobel citations specifically mentions radium and polonium, so it’s definitely in that category of Things That Come Up.

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Post by Plactus » Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:26 pm

I had slip and Arizona. I also said "Adam's ribbing" and got iconoclast.
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Post by harrumph » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:06 am

The Paul McCartney song Mull Of Kintyre made that one an easy get.

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Post by LucarioSnooperVixey » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:36 am

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Post by econgator » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:54 am

Only Utah and Arizona for $2800.

I would have swore that UW was in some city other than Seattle.

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Post by opusthepenguin » Wed Nov 06, 2019 4:42 am

Woof wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:50 pm
:( :mrgreen: :( :( :( :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

In keeping with my comment that these boards played easier for me than last nights (40,200 Coryat vs 31,400) I also got more Lach trash (10,200)
Lach Trash doesn't include Daily Doubles, does it?

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Post by opusthepenguin » Wed Nov 06, 2019 4:54 am

I just thought of a point that might not be obvious. Don't check the box for the Adam's rib clue unless you said Adam's rib tickler. If you got that clue right by saying Adam's ribbing, you don't get the trash points. I'm 99% sure that I could add this clarification to the Correct Responses provided in the first post without zeroing out the stats. But I don't want to risk it. (And I'm 64% certain that adding the clarification in the poll itself WOULD zero out the stats, so no way am I trying that.)

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Post by mas3cf » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:03 am

Apparently I'm pretty average. 6/7 on things that polled 45% or higher, 0/7 on things that polled below 45%.

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Post by Peter the accountant » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:34 am

I'd be watching FJ from the sidelines based on my 4th podium performance. I know who the wildcats are, and the name of that small village. But that's not enough to come back from negging on the new name for Deseret - an embarrassing miss from home since the topic has come up very recently.
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Post by Woof » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:49 am

opusthepenguin wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 4:42 am
Woof wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:50 pm
:( :mrgreen: :( :( :( :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

In keeping with my comment that these boards played easier for me than last nights (40,200 Coryat vs 31,400) I also got more Lach trash (10,200)
Lach Trash doesn't include Daily Doubles, does it?
You just get the nominal values for DDs.

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Post by opusthepenguin » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:29 pm

Woof wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:49 am
opusthepenguin wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 4:42 am
Woof wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:50 pm
:( :mrgreen: :( :( :( :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

In keeping with my comment that these boards played easier for me than last nights (40,200 Coryat vs 31,400) I also got more Lach trash (10,200)
Lach Trash doesn't include Daily Doubles, does it?
You just get the nominal values for DDs.
Huh. For coryat, that's definitely the case. But I've always thought of lach trash as money you could hypothetically have picked up from the fourth podium without ever winning a buzzer race. You just "buzz in" when no one else does or after they're done giving wrong responses. DD money isn't available via this method.* Is this not the consensus understanding of "lach trash"?

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* Unless, I suppose, you picked up the immediately preceding clue from the fourth podium. Huh. I hadn't thought about that. This puts a lot of money potentially on the table for this game. The clue right before DD2 was a triple stumper. So anyone who got the Color Purple narrator correct might justifiably claim the following clue for its board value or even hypothetically for the amount they feel they would have wagered. To further complicate matters, the clue Rob picked after that was DD3. What if I'd done the same thing after getting DD2? What if I had gone all in on both DDs? Suddenly I'm at $14400 going into FJ. I won this game from the couch, I tells ya!

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