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Re: Thursday, November 21, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by floridagator » Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:11 am

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:52 pm
floridagator wrote:
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Also you never commented on my plan to send Alex a book without a mailer, just taping the book shut. Does that make me look too cheap?
Are you suggesting you're the one who mailed me that shopping mall book?
Who besides you and the sender knew the book had been taped shut and put in the mail without an envelope?
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Post by AFRET CMS » Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:53 pm

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It helps that I married the cute 3rd grader that was my best friend's little sister :).
Gutsy. In today's environment, there aren't too many willing to marry an 18-year-old 12th grader, let alone a 3rd grader.
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Post by BigDaddyMatty » Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:52 pm

Coryat: 40,000
47 R/0 W
DD: 2/3
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LT: Lot's wife (DD)

I tried to cycle through as many Union generals as I could, but somehow I forgot General Sherman, who of course matches up with "the Sherman Antitrust Act guy." Boo hiss.

I also continued my streak of forgetting about Edward VII and skipping to George V. Double boo hiss. In the future, hopefully I can remember that sandwiched between Vickie and Liz are Edward, George, Edward, George.

NHO "rooked." Also, "dragon fruit" is new to the OED? Really? Those have been fairly common in the U.S. for at least a decade.

I too put "obtuse" for the triangle and originally marked it wrong but have since credited myself with a reversal. talkingaway's comment about the possibility of obtuse right triangles in non-Euclidean geometry notwithstanding, I have great confidence that the judges would count obtuse as "not exactly what we were going for, but it fits the parameters of the clue."
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Re: Thursday, November 21, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by Rackme32 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:22 pm

There were three of the four that surprised me as being considered "new to the OED". It seems that the OED, the world's most permissive dictionary, enters a word as soon as it's been used by.... um, maybe five people. I guess not in these cases...

I've known the word "rooked" and that usage for 50-60 years... As in "I got rooked!" The only reason the word isn't even older to me is the fact I'm only 63. I bet "rooked" has been around since the Roaring 20's and the gangsters...

"n00b" is well over twenty years old... I remember seeing it in AOL trivia chats when I joined in '95.

"Grassy Knoll" has been a common phrase since maybe the day after JFK got shot.

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Post by opusthepenguin » Mon Nov 25, 2019 7:01 pm

Rackme32 wrote:
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There were three of the four that surprised me as being considered "new to the OED". It seems that the OED, the world's most permissive dictionary, enters a word as soon as it's been used by.... um, maybe five people. I guess not in these cases...

I've known the word "rooked" and that usage for 50-60 years... As in "I got rooked!" The only reason the word isn't even older to me is the fact I'm only 63. I bet "rooked" has been around since the Roaring 20's and the gangsters...
Agreed. I don't feel like digging around, but I'm pretty sure I learned the usage via books that are older than I am, probably older than my parents. Feels very Damon Runyonesque, which fits your impression exactly.

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Post by billiej » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:26 am

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Still doesn't matter since I will never eat grilled cheese unless you make it with some real cheddar or go esoteric with something like, I dunno, smoked gouda. Because I prefer my cheese not to taste or feel like an entire box of melted Crayolas.
I'm with you there. I love grilled cheese, but it needs to be made with actual cheese. American "cheese" or Velveeta or whatever isn't even food, much less cheese. :P

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Post by Woof » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:47 am

The combination of bread and melted cheese is one of life’s great treats and takes many forms (fondue, crostini, gougeres, etc). But good cheese is an essential. Many years ago, a co-worker was banned from the communal microwave in the lunch room after repeatedly nuking a particularly smelly Gruyere onto bread and stinking out the whole room :lol:

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Post by Peter the accountant » Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:09 am

talkingaway wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:28 am
Also, the clue didn't specify Euclidean geometry, where the parallel postulate is accepted. If you place a triangle on a globe as in an elliptic geometry (defining a line as the arc of a great circle), you can get triangles whose angles sum to greater than 180 degrees, and hence you can have a triangle with a right angle AND an obtuse angle. So, that's an obtuse triangle with a right angle.
That reminds me of an old riddle - that most here probably know already. A man walks a mile due south, a mile due east, then a mile due north. He ends up back where he started. He sees a bear. What color is the bear?
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White. It has to be a polar bear.
That actually describes a triangle with two right angles. Kind of clever - particularly when you're a high school student studying geometry and just moving from planes to three dimensional objects. (Which is where I first heard it.)
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Post by Peter the accountant » Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:14 am

twelvefootboy wrote:
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I guess weekends are for hijacking game threads - the monte cristo club is where the cool people hang 8-)
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Post by reddpen » Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:33 am

Peter the accountant wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:14 am
twelvefootboy wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:56 pm
I guess weekends are for hijacking game threads - the monte cristo club is where the cool people hang 8-)
Any sandwich can be improved by dipping it in batter and deep frying it. I remember the first time I ate a monte cristo. All I could think of was what kind of sorcery is this? Taking a boring ham and cheese sandwich and making it wonderful!
At Colorado College, when Saga meal service cooked up French toast for breakfast (a meal I seldom took), they'd turn the leftovers into monte cristos for lunch. They were... not wonderful. Eating one might make you croak, monsieur.
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Post by AFRET CMS » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:18 pm

Peter the accountant wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:09 am

That reminds me of an old riddle - that most here probably know already. A man walks a mile due south, a mile due east, then a mile due north. He ends up back where he started. He sees a bear. What color is the bear?
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White. It has to be a polar bear.
That actually describes a triangle with two right angles. Kind of clever - particularly when you're a high school student studying geometry and just moving from planes to three dimensional objects. (Which is where I first heard it.)
And a little-known variant of the same riddle that some may not know: A man walks a mile due south, a mile due east, then a mile due north. He ends up back where he started. He sees a bird. What color is the bird?
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Black and white. You may have bumped into Opus hanging around his home. The starting point is anywhere 1+1/π miles from the South Pole. Your mile south takes you to about a third of a mile from the pole, your mile due east circumnavigates the pole and returns you to the point where your eastbound trek started, then you retrace your steps one mile north to your original starting point and meet a penguin. Two right angles and a walk "around the world".
I was very pleased with myself for having come up with that in geometry class, and was very disappointed to find out others knew the solution -- Piers Anthony used it 12 or 15 years later in one of his Phaze/Proton books.
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Post by opusthepenguin » Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:07 pm

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And a little-known variant of the same riddle that some may not know: A man walks a mile due south, a mile due east, then a mile due north. He ends up back where he started. He sees a bird. What color is the bird?
Er... did you mean a mile due NORTH, a mile due east, then a mile due SOUTH? Or am I not picturing this right? The way you have it, I think the answer is:
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Whatever color bird is riding on the back of that white bear.
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Also, I think you wouldn't see penguins at the south pole. It's too far inland and too cold (even for penguins). they tend to live on the perimeter of Antarctica and even there they have to huddle together for warmth. (At least that's what we tell the women.)

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Post by floridagator » Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:00 pm

opusthepenguin wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:07 pm
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Also, I think you wouldn't see penguins at the south pole. It's too far inland and too cold (even for penguins). they tend to live on the perimeter of Antarctica and even there they have to huddle together for warmth. (At least that's what we tell the women.)
and there aren't any bears at the North Pole
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Post by AFRET CMS » Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:55 pm

opusthepenguin wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:07 pm
AFRET CMS wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:18 pm
And a little-known variant of the same riddle that some may not know: A man walks a mile due south, a mile due east, then a mile due north. He ends up back where he started. He sees a bird. What color is the bird?
Er... did you mean a mile due NORTH, a mile due east, then a mile due SOUTH? Or am I not picturing this right? The way you have it, I think the answer is:
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Whatever color bird is riding on the back of that white bear.
Edited to add some pedantry
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Also, I think you wouldn't see penguins at the south pole. It's too far inland and too cold (even for penguins). they tend to live on the perimeter of Antarctica and even there they have to huddle together for warmth. (At least that's what we tell the women.)
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I think your pedantry is correct; there aren't any penguins that far inland -- nothing for them to eat. We have to assume it got lost or forgot to stop while marching along with Morgan Freeman.

However, it really is a mile south to start with, since you're starting approximately 1.318 miles from the south pole. Your one mile south (toward the pole) takes you to a point on a circle one mile in diameter with the South Pole at the center. The one mile due east takes you exactly one time around that circle, where you retrace your original journey in reverse by going north in your same footprints to return to your starting point.

I guess we could change the one mile, one mile, one mile to 100 miles or so for each of the three pieces of the journey to increase the chance of running into one of your cousins. You'd then need to start just under 132 miles from the pole so your circular journey has a circumference of 100 miles. Maybe penguins get that close to the pole? If not, we can adjust distances as needed.
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Post by trainman » Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:14 am

reddpen wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:33 am
At Colorado College, when Saga meal service cooked up French toast for breakfast (a meal I seldom took)...
Incidentally, I am told that Northwestern University students still refer to the food service as "Saga," even though that was three decades and two names ago (Saga became Marriott, and then Sodexo) -- is that the case at other institutes of higher learning that were also once fed by Saga?

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Post by Rackme32 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:28 pm

opusthepenguin wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:07 pm
AFRET CMS wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:18 pm
And a little-known variant of the same riddle that some may not know: A man walks a mile due south, a mile due east, then a mile due north. He ends up back where he started. He sees a bird. What color is the bird?
Er... did you mean a mile due NORTH, a mile due east, then a mile due SOUTH? Or am I not picturing this right? The way you have it, I think the answer is:
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Whatever color bird is riding on the back of that white bear.
Edited to add some pedantry
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Also, I think you wouldn't see penguins at the south pole. It's too far inland and too cold (even for penguins). they tend to live on the perimeter of Antarctica and even there they have to huddle together for warmth. (At least that's what we tell the women.)
Besides, we all know penguins are from Hoboken... Ask Bugs Bunny!

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Post by Mathew5000 » Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:09 am

Rackme32 wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:22 pm
There were three of the four that surprised me as being considered "new to the OED". It seems that the OED, the world's most permissive dictionary, enters a word as soon as it's been used by.... um, maybe five people. I guess not in these cases...

I've known the word "rooked" and that usage for 50-60 years... As in "I got rooked!" The only reason the word isn't even older to me is the fact I'm only 63. I bet "rooked" has been around since the Roaring 20's and the gangsters...

"n00b" is well over twenty years old... I remember seeing it in AOL trivia chats when I joined in '95.

"Grassy Knoll" has been a common phrase since maybe the day after JFK got shot.
I'm a bit late to this thread, but I wanted to point out that "new to the OED" should certainly not be taken to mean, "new to the English language". This OED blog post notes that the newly-added verb sprit has been in the language for over 1000 years. You speculate that rooked originated in the 1920s but the OED entry traces it back to 1676. As for grassy knoll, the OED probably wouldn't include the term at all if it were only used to refer to the Kennedy assassination; it's worthy of inclusion because of its extended use: "with reference to anything considered as a major factor or issue in any investigation around which conspiracy theories have been constructed" (source). One of the quotations is from Infoworld in 1996: "My..favorite [conspiracy theory]: Netscape is blocking Microsoft... Fun, but these grassy knoll theories don't hold together when I point my Netscape browser to Microsoft's site." The OED's earliest quotation for this extended use of grassy knoll is from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch in 1989; it also includes two earlier quotations (1966 and 1978) clearly referring to the Kennedy assassination.

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Post by AFRET CMS » Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:52 pm

Mathew5000 wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:09 am
Rackme32 wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:22 pm
"Grassy Knoll" has been a common phrase since maybe the day after JFK got shot.
The OED's earliest quotation for this extended use of grassy knoll is from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch in 1989; it also includes two earlier quotations (1966 and 1978) clearly referring to the Kennedy assassination.
I can understand why it doesn't cite Kate McKinnon's use of the term as her "Colleen Rafferty" character on SNL ......
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