GOAT Tournament Day 1 (1/7/20) Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

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I missed the first couple minutes so maybe this was addressed at the top of the show, but what was the deal with the retro look of the clue board? I can't say I was a fan of that.
I wouldn't have called it retro. ABC wanted a hand in The Look since this is a network event. I like it. It's temporary. Hopefully so is the new Think music.

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I apologize if someone else has already mentioned this, but it was impressive that James came so close despite not uncovering a single Daily Double.
I noticed but hadn't mentioned. No one else has. That is kinda scary.
OTOH, the DDs didn't exactly do Brad any favors, so the end result was still probably as expected: Ken won by taking advantage of DDs, Brad was hurt by missing a couple.

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8:00 p.m. ABC – Jeopardy! Tournament of Champions (premiere) Viewers: 14.01 million (#1), A18-49: 2.3/11 (#1)
If the tournament holds these wonderful ratings, I would expect some more J! primetime programming in the summer, maybe something akin to Super Jeopardy! where the field is expanded.

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goongas wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:47 pm
8:00 p.m. ABC – Jeopardy! Tournament of Champions (premiere) Viewers: 14.01 million (#1), A18-49: 2.3/11 (#1)
If the tournament holds these wonderful ratings, I would expect some more J! primetime programming in the summer, maybe something akin to Super Jeopardy! where the field is expanded.
I think this is a well they need to be very mindful of visiting too often. This event is working because it has three huge headliners soon after James' success was national news.

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brick wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:14 pm
This Is Kirk! wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:21 am
I apologize if someone else has already mentioned this, but it was impressive that James came so close despite not uncovering a single Daily Double.
I noticed but hadn't mentioned. No one else has. That is kinda scary.
yclept wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:40 am
Great first matchup. James with a 60,000 two-game total without hitting a DD is quite impressive.

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brick wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:16 pm
goongas wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:47 pm
8:00 p.m. ABC – Jeopardy! Tournament of Champions (premiere) Viewers: 14.01 million (#1), A18-49: 2.3/11 (#1)
If the tournament holds these wonderful ratings, I would expect some more J! primetime programming in the summer, maybe something akin to Super Jeopardy! where the field is expanded.
I think this is a well they need to be very mindful of visiting too often. This event is working because it has three huge headliners soon after James' success was national news.
Alex has also been in the news a lot himself. So people who may not be regular viewers tuned in to see him one last time before he retires.

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Also, saying that James got no Daily Doubles in a 2-game, total-point match is comparing apples to oranges, if you're trying to make some kind of comparison to how his performance might have looked in a regular-play game. The first Final served as a de facto Daily Double that everyone got to try.

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Bamaman wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:25 pm
brick wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:16 pm
goongas wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:47 pm
8:00 p.m. ABC – Jeopardy! Tournament of Champions (premiere) Viewers: 14.01 million (#1), A18-49: 2.3/11 (#1)
If the tournament holds these wonderful ratings, I would expect some more J! primetime programming in the summer, maybe something akin to Super Jeopardy! where the field is expanded.
I think this is a well they need to be very mindful of visiting too often. This event is working because it has three huge headliners soon after James' success was national news.
Alex has also been in the news a lot himself. So people who may not be regular viewers tuned in to see him one last time before he retires.
If the ratings were half of what they were, ABC probably would have been very happy. I understand the circumstances why the ratings were so high. I think it will be too tempting not for ABC to try again, maybe by the summer. They put on game shows where the ratings are a lot lower than this in the summer.

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Warms the cockles of my heart to see JGOAT stomp the living hell out of Game of Games in the ratings.
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This is kind of like the Avengers: Endgame of television popularity in that it took 15 years of setup to get to this point.

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Someone can correct me if I am wrong but just by eyeballing it, it looks like Brad would not have won this match even if he had gotten all his Daily Doubles right. In the first game, Ken would still have ended up with more money going into Final, and in the second game, although Brad may have had more money going into Final by doubling up twice, he was not able to come up with the correct Final response.

Brad needs to up both his buzzer game and his STAY CLAM game by quite a bit if he's going to get back in this.

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Linear Gnome wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 1:25 pm
brick wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:14 pm
This Is Kirk! wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:21 am
I apologize if someone else has already mentioned this, but it was impressive that James came so close despite not uncovering a single Daily Double.
I noticed but hadn't mentioned. No one else has. That is kinda scary.
yclept wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 3:40 am
Great first matchup. James with a 60,000 two-game total without hitting a DD is quite impressive.
I stand corrected and deeply apologize.

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What a fun match to watch, and I approve of the outcome!
Wasn't that first FJ a clear YKIOYD? Was anybody actually helped by the category or the invocation of Calvin Coolidge? I almost felt sympathy with those who complain the show shouldn't have religious content, though it was as ridiculously easy for me as it was for the 3 champs.
The 2d FJ, on the other hand...The best I could come up with was Hubble or Sagan... :oops:

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goongas wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 12:47 pm
8:00 p.m. ABC – Jeopardy! Tournament of Champions (premiere) Viewers: 14.01 million (#1), A18-49: 2.3/11 (#1)
If the tournament holds these wonderful ratings, I would expect some more J! primetime programming in the summer, maybe something akin to Super Jeopardy! where the field is expanded.
That would be great!

The one thing standing in the way of that is whether Alex will still be able to host. I'd think that such an extravaganza would be less attractive to the network without him.

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My prior was that the players were very evenly matched and I wouldn't dare make any predictions.

Assuming that's exactly correct (i.e., that in any given match each player has equal winning probability), Ken's chances of winning the tournament are now 133/243 (or just under 55%), with the other two at 55/243 each.

To put it another way, If each player's expected winnings at the beginning were $500k, then Ken's expected winnings right now are about $660k, and Brad's and James's about $420k each.

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I wish they would give a player something for winning a match even if they don’t win the whole tournament. If it finishes 3-2-0, it seems like the one who won two matches should get more than the one who didn’t win any.

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Bamaman wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:15 pm
I wish they would give a player something for winning a match even if they don’t win the whole tournament. If it finishes 3-2-0, it seems like the one who won two matches should get more than the one who didn’t win any.
That could lead to perverse incentives. For example, let's say that going into match 5, the players have won 2, 1 and 0 matches. Then in match 5 the player with 1 falls behind. He may prefer the tournament to end, and might play in a way that favors the opponent with 2 wins.

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Bamaman wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:32 am
Thanks to the archivists getting this up so quickly.

One suggestion..,perhaps a small note indicating who went first in each game, as they had a rather unusual way of doing it.
I must be missing something but I can't find the GOAT games on the archive.

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mrparadise wrote:
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Bamaman wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:32 am
Thanks to the archivists getting this up so quickly.

One suggestion..,perhaps a small note indicating who went first in each game, as they had a rather unusual way of doing it.
I must be missing something but I can't find the GOAT games on the archive.
Going through "all seasons" gets you there: http://www.j-archive.com/listseasons.php

The other method on the front page is to look below the two FJ! clues shown for another link while avoiding today's regular FJ! clue that has been there since 10 this morning PT. That's here: http://www.j-archive.com/showseason.php ... tournament

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