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FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
WORLD LICENSE PLATES

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
Around 2010 the state license plate for Michoacan, Mexico featured these insects

Kevin Walsh: 22600-2600=20000 (3x = $62,900)
Michael Zannettis: 4746-1711=3035
Barbara Giesser: 3000-1500=1500

Correct response:
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(monarch) butterflies (Kevin – cockroaches) (Michael – cricket and the ant) (Barbara – grasshoppers)

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Michael: minus 200-854
Kevin: 9800+2800
Michael: 6546-5000

Coryats
Kevin: 21400
Michael: 10600
Barbara: 3000

Combined: 35,000

Scores at the end of the Jeopardy! Round
Kevin: 7000
Michael: 946
Barbara: 200

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How in the world was this a triple stumper? :shock:

Maybe they overthought it?

Kevin seems really good, though. Three for three on locking it up before final.

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FURNITURE $400: Get it right: a podium is something you stand on; I sit at this, a 7-letter word for a reading desk

Michael bet his "lucky number" 854 on DD1 and went deeper in the hole. His 1711 wager in the FJ! round was for his kids' birthdays. DD3 did not go well for Michael either as he lost 5000.

If Michael had been correct on DD3 then that is 14746 for the FJ! round. Doubled is 29492. If Kevin had to cover that plus a buck he would have been left with 15707 on the miss, so still a win.

When watching the game Michael will probably realize those DD misses were not on real difficult clues. Funny what the stage can do sometimes and I suspect the way Michael played that today's outcome was not what he expected at all.

The archive indicates that Alex is right for WORLD LICENSE PLATES making its debut as a FJ! category. I don't see it as a J! or DJ! round category either.

I made no precalls off the category, but did expect something across the Atlantic. The FJ! clue had me instantly know the correct response without doubt and I only wrote the one needed word while bypassing unnecessary specificity.

It was not until going to the contestant responses and then reading the predictions at Fikkle that I began to realize that the clue was not as easy as I first thought. Perhaps there is an advantage for native Californians on it?

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MarkBarrett wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:50 pm

It was not until going to the contestant responses and then reading the predictions at Fikkle that I began to realize that the clue was not as easy as I first thought. Perhaps there is an advantage for native Californians on it?
This is one of those finals where you either know it or you don't.

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Philliesfan02 wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:56 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:50 pm

It was not until going to the contestant responses and then reading the predictions at Fikkle that I began to realize that the clue was not as easy as I first thought. Perhaps there is an advantage for native Californians on it?
This is one of those finals where you either know it or you don't.
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Philliesfan02 wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:43 pm
How in the world was this a triple stumper? :shock:
Very strong negbait for cockroach, for one. Unless you happen to know that Michoacan is the real TOM, and the monarch reserve is there, not sure how you tease it out.

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Setting myself up to miss the FJ! clue tomorrow by posting this:

Some of the prior clues relating to today's FJ! clue:
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#7409, aired 2016-11-24 BUTTERFLIES $800: (Jimmy of the Clue Crew reports.) Several flyways merge into a single path over central Texas & guide these butterflies to their winter home 3,000 miles away in Mexico; the next generation will begin migrating north as spring arrives
#6964, aired 2014-12-18 COUNTRIES BY WORLD HERITAGE SITES $3,000 (Daily Double): The Monarch Butterfly Biosphere Reserve & the Prehistoric Caves of Yagul
#5863, aired 2010-02-24 FLOAT LIKE A BUTTERFLY... $800: Seen here are scores of these butterflies at their winter camp in Michoacan, Mexico
#5667, aired 2009-04-07 "RU" THERE $3,000 (Daily Double): In 2005 this New Mexico city was sued to remove the religious symbols from its official logo
#5204, aired 2007-04-05 MIGRATION $800: (Kelly of the Clue Crew reports in front of a map of the United States.) For these insects, autumn is a time to congregate in Michoacan, Mexico, where they're a major eco-tourist attraction
#4924, aired 2006-01-26 I NEED A VACATION $400: My daughter's excited to see the monarch butterfly flocks at Morelia in this country, the No. 8 destination
#4379, aired 2003-09-25 WILDLIFE $800: Eastern varieties of this "kingly" orange & black butterfly migrate to southern Mexico for the winter
#4184, aired 2002-11-07 WORLD COINS $800: One of Mexico's millennium coins featured a depiction of this migrating butterfly
#3472, aired 1999-10-12 BUTTERFLY POTPOURRI $200: Illegal logging in Mexico is endangering the lives of these "royal" butterflies that summer in Canada
#77, aired 1984-12-25 INSECTS $1000: This butterfly that journeys from Canada to Mexico holds migration record
Final Jeopardy! Round clues (1 result returned)
#2749, aired 1996-07-11 NATURE: In December 1995 cold weather killed millions of these wintering in Michoacan
It may have been both being a Californian and watch J! that helped today.

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mas3cf wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:12 pm
Philliesfan02 wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:43 pm
How in the world was this a triple stumper? :shock:
Very strong negbait for cockroach, for one. Unless you happen to know that Michoacan is the real TOM, and the monarch reserve is there, not sure how you tease it out.

I just saw Mexico + insect and locked in on Monarch Butterfly.

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It's done: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6842

Not nearly enough trash available for a fourth podium victory.

The main networks did not seem to be covering the hearing today and let it go the cable networks.

Same tomorrow with direct questioning? Time will tell.

Bills/Titans still on the schedule for regular CBS tomorrow.

Dodgers/Braves on regular Fox tonight.

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Philliesfan02 wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:48 pm
I just saw Mexico + insect and locked in on Monarch Butterfly.
Lucky for you then, considering there's this rather well-known Mexican folk song called "La Cucaracha" (whose title translates to "The Cockroach")...
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While I know about butterflies wintering in Mexico, the state name meant nothing to me and the mention of 2010 seemed to be pointing to a specific event that caused the insects to be put on license plates. I drew a complete blank.

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In the anagrams category, instead of ear & era I had nose & eons.
:D :D :D on daily doubles. Dyson sphere is way overvalued at 2K.
Had locusts for FJ. That ends my streak. :(

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OntarioQuizzer wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:06 pm
Philliesfan02 wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:48 pm
I just saw Mexico + insect and locked in on Monarch Butterfly.
Lucky for you then, considering there's this rather well-known Mexican folk song called "La Cucaracha" (whose title translates to "The Cockroach")...
my lack of knowledge of that helped me here

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Missed only $1,000 in both Behind the Voices and Furniture. Another second or two and I could have gotten "armoire", but no way was Natalie Wood happening.

Was there an edit after the Universe DD? I heard a dip in sound there.

No guess on FJ! Even his hint got me no closer.

Lach Trash: rocking chair. Also got the Bastille day DD.
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Philliesfan02 wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:56 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:50 pm

It was not until going to the contestant responses and then reading the predictions at Fikkle that I began to realize that the clue was not as easy as I first thought. Perhaps there is an advantage for native Californians on it?
This is one of those finals where you either know it or you don't.
And I did not. I said bees.

Also, TIL Vermonter had a bar mitzvah. :)

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DBear wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:36 pm
In the anagrams category, instead of ear & era I had nose & eons.
:D :D :D on daily doubles. Dyson sphere is way overvalued at 2K.
Had locusts for FJ. That ends my streak. :(
+1 for nose/eons. NHO a Dyson sphere, and I'm a science guy.

Coryat $35,400 (45R, 3W)
DD 2/3
FJ :(

Being too slow on wordplay clues killed me on DD2. Got licked in on "read" and went nowhere with that. Gotta build that skill. Went with cockroach for FJ and didn't even bother to think any further.

Festival of lights $2000 was gonna be Diwali, I'm sure of it.

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I'd NHO Michoacan or that monarch butterflies flew to Mexico and have a reserve there. For some reason, I got sidetracked by scarabs, but that's an Egyptian Pavlov...so, of course, I put down beetle anyway.

I would have said "What is Bleu, blanc et rogue?" for the French flag...but I'd say it making a face. And not because of any hard feelings towards France, but for my disdain of a certain team that's co-opted those colors. (Sorry, OQ...)

How very meta for J! to distinguish between podiums and lecterns.

I think I probably would have clipped "Forever in blue" appropriately, and not continued the phrase to more accurately describe the said "pants", but gives off some Neil Diamond vibes. I'd NHO that fourth book, but figured it was a sequel to the one everyone knows.

DD2 was easy enough that I probably would have been able to get it on a buzz-in, which I don't like - DDs should require some thought that at least not make them buzzer-beaters. Oh, well.

I got Bastille Day because, when I was younger, my parents always (unhelpfully) reminded me that their anniversary is on Bastille Day. I'll be honest; I probably know less about Bastille Day than I really should - something to study, since J! likes French history.

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mas3cf wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:54 pm
Festival of lights $2000 was gonna be Diwali, I'm sure of it.
I also precalled that as a bottom level clue and was sad I didn't get a shot at a free $2000

FJ was a complete NHOI, no shot at getting it.

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