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Robert K S wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:09 pm
Bamaman wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:53 pm I don’t consider three to be “several”.
What do you consider "three" to be? "A couple"? :D
one = one
two = couple
three = a few
four = some
five = several

and there ya go :lol:
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triviawayne wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:57 pm five = several
I think the threshold for "several" is way less than five. Me, I'd put it at two.

M-W isn't, uh, definitive on the subject:
a: more than one
b: more than two but fewer than many
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triviawayne wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:57 pm
Robert K S wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:09 pm
Bamaman wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:53 pm I don’t consider three to be “several”.
What do you consider "three" to be? "A couple"? :D
one = one
two = couple
three = a few
four = some
five = several

and there ya go :lol:
...or, as a friend from Pennsylvania tells it, "couple two three". :lol:
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CailinGaoilge wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 5:17 pm
triviawayne wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:57 pm
Robert K S wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:09 pm
Bamaman wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:53 pm I don’t consider three to be “several”.
What do you consider "three" to be? "A couple"? :D
one = one
two = couple
three = a few
four = some
five = several

and there ya go :lol:
...or, as a friend from Pennsylvania tells it, "couple two three". :lol:
I’m from Pennsylvania, I made up the above scale as a kid for whatever dumb reason at the time and just never stopped using it.

NHO couple two three...must be a’burgh thing
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triviawayne wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:28 pm
CailinGaoilge wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 5:17 pm
triviawayne wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:57 pm
Robert K S wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:09 pm
Bamaman wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:53 pm I don’t consider three to be “several”.
What do you consider "three" to be? "A couple"? :D
one = one
two = couple
three = a few
four = some
five = several

and there ya go :lol:
...or, as a friend from Pennsylvania tells it, "couple two three". :lol:
I’m from Pennsylvania, I made up the above scale as a kid for whatever dumb reason at the time and just never stopped using it.

NHO couple two three...must be a’burgh thing
My friend is from the Scranton area - maybe Eastern PA?
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CailinGaoilge wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 8:41 pm
triviawayne wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:28 pm
CailinGaoilge wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 5:17 pm
triviawayne wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:57 pm
Robert K S wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:09 pm

What do you consider "three" to be? "A couple"? :D
one = one
two = couple
three = a few
four = some
five = several

and there ya go :lol:
...or, as a friend from Pennsylvania tells it, "couple two three". :lol:
I’m from Pennsylvania, I made up the above scale as a kid for whatever dumb reason at the time and just never stopped using it.

NHO couple two three...must be a’burgh thing
My friend is from the Scranton area - maybe Eastern PA?
I’m less than an hour south of there. NEPA I guess
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I think of "several" as three or five or just possibly seven. Really, the same way I think of "a few", so one term or the other isn't really very useful. "Several", by the way, has the same Latin root as "separate".

I do recall being very unhappy with the writers' use of "several" in this FJ clue.
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Lefty wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:08 pm I think of "several" as three or five or just possibly seven. Really, the same way I think of "a few", so one term or the other isn't really very useful. "Several", by the way, has the same Latin root as "separate".

I do recall being very unhappy with the writers' use of "several" in this FJ clue.
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TMZ: 'Jeopardy!' Never Considered LeVar Burton for Full-Time Host.
https://www.tmz.com/2021/08/25/jeopardy ... sting-job/
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squarekara wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:29 am TMZ: 'Jeopardy!' Never Considered LeVar Burton for Full-Time Host.
https://www.tmz.com/2021/08/25/jeopardy ... sting-job/
Even the article shows that we already knew that. In favor of a headline designed to roil people up, they buried the lead...Sony did speak with LeVar about other projects outside of the "Jeopardy!" brand ... and those opportunities are still a possibility.
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davey wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:04 am
... they buried the lead...
Quick lesson since it is a very common mistake ... the phrase is "bury the lede". For more on the topic:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-a ... ersus-lead
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Another USA Today article: https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertai ... 209913002/

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alietr wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:13 am
davey wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:04 am
... they buried the lead...
Quick lesson since it is a very common mistake ... the phrase is "bury the lede". For more on the topic:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-a ... ersus-lead
I appreciate your citing a source, but note that In the very first paragraph of the Merriam-Webster it says, Both spellings, however, can be found in instances of the phrase. And examples of my spelling by journalists are given towards the end. So, since I'm not even in the news business, I'll stick with my spelling. Catch me not preserving the difference between lead and led, and I'll hang my head... :geek:
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alietr wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:13 am
davey wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:04 am
... they buried the lead...
Quick lesson since it is a very common mistake ... the phrase is "bury the lede". For more on the topic:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-a ... ersus-lead
The article says "lede" is a new spelling that is still regarded by some as an affectation.
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opusthepenguin wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:43 pm
alietr wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:13 am
davey wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:04 am
... they buried the lead...
Quick lesson since it is a very common mistake ... the phrase is "bury the lede". For more on the topic:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-a ... ersus-lead
The article says "lede" is a new spelling that is still regarded by some as an affectation.
In journalism school, we were told it was short for "lederhosen," and referred more to the structure of the entire story, which should be written in top-down form. If you bury your lederhosen, straps in the wrong place, they fall to the floor and you're exposed to the masses as not knowing what the heck you're writing about.

But no, not an affectation at all.
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That's interesting because I would have thought "bury the lede" was correct historically, and "lead" had just been gaining traction as a common misspelling.
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Anachronism wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 5:25 pm
opusthepenguin wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:43 pm
alietr wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:13 am
davey wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:04 am
... they buried the lead...
Quick lesson since it is a very common mistake ... the phrase is "bury the lede". For more on the topic:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-a ... ersus-lead
The article says "lede" is a new spelling that is still regarded by some as an affectation.
In journalism school, we were told it was short for "lederhosen," and referred more to the structure of the entire story, which should be written in top-down form. If you bury your lederhosen, straps in the wrong place, they fall to the floor and you're exposed to the masses as not knowing what the heck you're writing about.

That sounds like a joke. The article we've been discussing gives a more convincing origin.
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davey wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 6:09 pm That sounds like a joke. The article we've been discussing gives a more convincing origin.
Not really convincing - the examples are mostly quite modern and the metal explanation makes no sense from an editing perspective. I've played with those machines and the lead spacers would only be mentioned in an entirely different context. I'm not even sure, since by the time I was editing the lead type had long since been retired, if editors would even touch lead at any newspaper of size.

The reason I was given in j-school (in the '80s) was quite different. Many editors used red pens or pencils, and many of those were a bit thicker than the fine-point pilot-pen things people often use today. Talking about the lede or lead is common, so it's shorthand that's easier to rede when you're scribbling like a doctor inks a script. Probably the same reason shorthand like "stet" and "cq" became universal - no mistaking those for something else.

But yes, I was joking because everything about the media seems so affected these days.

Editing: just to add another thought I had. Editors were, back then, still proofing the final pages as they were glued to the layout boards. We used light blue markers. You could write right on the copy - they were invisible in the printing process - but they were quite soft and thick. So let's say you're marking the page and you want to move a section up - maybe you outline it and write "lede" on it so that it gets moved to the top of the story. Again, because it's easier to identify than "lead." I know I would often mark items like unusually-spelled names just to make sure other editors didn't need to ask for a correction. And then we had the x-acto knives for cutting up and moving copy, and a good supply of band-aids in the editing room.
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Don’t know if this has been posted elsewhere, but here is an article saying Ken’s tweets sunk his chances of getting the job.

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/t ... =algorithm
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Bamaman wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:02 am Don’t know if this has been posted elsewhere, but here is an article saying Ken’s tweets sunk his chances of getting the job.

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/t ... =algorithm
By his phrasing of the "wheelchair" tweet (i.e., "hot person"), it is clear that Ken was taking special care not to be sexist or heteronormative. But when you triple-team Jordan, you're going to leave Pippen or Kukoc wide open.
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