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Tuesday, April 3, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:30 am

Game Recap for Show #6347, 2012-04-03

CONTESTANTS
Joey Falco, a writer from Santa Monica, California
Tamara Tatum-Broughton, an assistant professor of biology from Washington, D.C.
Elisabeth Carrel, a copy editor from Elgin, Illinois (whose 1-day cash winnings total $24,000)

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Thanks, Johnny. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome. If you were watching yesterday's program, you'll recall that on a couple of occasions, Elisabeth was jumping all over the board. She wasn't doing it deliberately. She said afterwards, it was because of nerves. Well, those nerves helped her be very, very sharp in the game. And that's why she's the returning champion today. Tamara and Joey, welcome aboard. Good luck. Here we go. The Jeopardy! Round is where we start. It has one Daily Double in one of these categories...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
HIGHWAYS & BYWAYS (3/5)
AP MALE ATHLETE OF THE YEAR (5/5)
STUPID ANSWERS (5/5)
PLANT-HERS (3/3)
GOOD NEWS (3/5, including 1 missed Daily Double)
A "LEG" TO STAND ON (4/4)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Joey: 9 R (including 1 rebound), 2 W (including 1 DD)
Tamara: 8 R (including 3 rebounds), 1 W
Elisabeth: 6 R, 5 W

Clues revealed: 27
Triple Stumpers: 3
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $2,200



SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Tamara: $3,600
Joey: $2,800
Elisabeth: -$200

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: "What were you doing before your present occupation?" Joey Falco, you're a writer now. You're from Santa Monica, California. But you also were a rock musician at one time, weren't you, in college?

Joey: For--for a day--

Alex: A day?

Joey: --actually.

Alex: That was a short career. What happened?

Joey: Thank God it--yeah. Well, a friend of mine decided--and I decided to, uh, entertain some people at a bar one night, and we had a little bit of a cover band--the name I can't even say on television, so I'll just leave it at that. But, you know, between the songs and the holes we cut strategically in our pants, we were never invited back.

[Laughter]

Alex: [Clicks tongue] Okay. So much for the rock career.




Alex: Tamara Tatum-Broughton from Washington, D.C.

Tamara: Yes.

Alex: Uh... you were a panther at one time.

Tamara: Yes, I was. In high school, I was a mascot, in Florin High School in Sacramento, California. And our mascot was a panther, so during football season and almost--sometimes during basketball season, I would dress up in a black panther uniform and run around and entertain the crowd and the kids.

Alex: Is it unusual to have a woman as a school mascot in situations like that? Usually, we can't tell if it's a guy or a gal, right?

Tamara: Actually, I do have a funny story about that. My first rally, um, no one knew that I was the mascot. Um, but I-I was a little bit well-endowed at the time, and, um, one of the seniors noticed--"Oh, my god. She has boobs"--and yelled it to everyone. And so the whole stadium or the whole arena just kind of laughed. It was pretty embarrassing.

Alex: We usually laugh at panthers.

[Laughter]




Alex: Elisabeth Carrel is a copy editor from Illinois, who also plays on a trivia team. And she has a name on that team. And it is?

Elisabeth: Where's the Beef Olivia Newton-John Boy.

[Laughter]

Alex: Huh?

Elisabeth: Which is from BEFORE--it's one of--it's a BEFORE & AFTER thing that works in the name of a local country club and a local restaurant. And the emcee said it was the worst name ever.

Alex: But did--

Elisabeth: So hey, trivia team.

Alex: But did you win?

Elisabeth: We've won quite a bit.

Alex: Okay, good for you.

JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Joey found the Daily Double on the 16th clue. Elisabeth was in the hole with -$200, Tamara had $3,600, and Joey was at $2,800. Joey wagered $2,000.

GOOD NEWS $800: In the late 1700s Charles de l'Epee began the 1st public school for these people in Paris & created a language for them
(Joey: Who are blind people?)

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
GOOD NEWS $400: For those wanting privacy to watch movies, the first of this type of theater opened in New Jersey on June 6, 1933
(Alex: That was [*]. You three are too young to remember.)

HIGHWAYS & BYWAYS $800: One genealogist estimates around 90% of Kentucky's 1790 population had arrived there via this road
(Tamara: What is the Cumberland Road?)
(Elisabeth: What is the Appalachian Trail?)

HIGHWAYS & BYWAYS $1000: The Grand Trunk Road begins at Peshawar, Pakistan, travels SE though India & ends at Sonargaon in this country
(Elisabeth: What is Myanmar?)
[The word "though" appeared on the screen, but Alex read it (correctly) as "through".]

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Tamara: $3,800
Joey: $1,600
Elisabeth: $200

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Post by Archivists » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:30 am

DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
AFRICAN-AMERICAN ACTORS (5/5)
NEW YORK MUSEUMS (4/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
AL-LIT-ERATION (3/5, including 1 missed Daily Double) (Alex: You have to name the literary work in...)
POISON (5/5)
PROPOSED STATES (4/5)
MATH, YET NOT MATH (0/1)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Joey: 10 R (including 1 rebound), 2 W (including 1 DD)
Elisabeth: 6 R (including 1 rebound and 1 DD), 1 W
Tamara: 5 R, 1 W

Clues revealed: 26
Triple Stumpers: 4
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $7,200



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Elisabeth snagged the next Daily Double on the 12th clue. Elisabeth had $3,000, Tamara had $6,200, and Joey was at $4,400. Elisabeth made it a True Daily Double, wagering $3,000.

NEW YORK MUSEUMS $800: The Whitney Museum has 187 works by this artist, including a mobile called "Big Red"

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Joey who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 18th clue. Elisabeth had $6,800, Tamara had $6,200, and Joey was at $8,400. Joey wagered $4,000.

AL-LIT-ERATION $1600: Dickens delights,
title teen,
woeful Wackford
(Joey: [Makes popping sounds])
(Alex: Joey?)
(Joey: I...)

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
PROPOSED STATES $2000: (Kelly of the Clue Crew shows us a map of the Western United States.) In 1849, 47 years before Utah statehood, parts of nine future states were encompassed by this proposed state, whose name meant "honeybee"

AL-LIT-ERATION $1200: Rudyard ruminates,
superb story,
"wee" wonder

NEW YORK MUSEUMS $2000: This planetarium at the American Museum of Natural History has a 10,000-volume library on astronomy

MATH, YET NOT MATH $2000: This negative-sounding word means to render someone utterly perplexed
[The end-of-round signal sounds.]

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Elisabeth: $8,800
Tamara: $8,200
Joey: $6,400

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
SYMBOLIC SCULPTURE

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Four-fifths for first place.
Elisabeth: Wager $7,601 to cover Tamara.
Tamara: You're faced with a legitimate choice in strategy. You can either choose to cover Joey, hoping that you give the correct response and Elisabeth doesn't, in which case you'll want to wager $4,601 to cover Joey's doubled score, but no more than $7,000 if you want to top Elisabeth on a Triple Stumper; or bet up to $1,799 and win if both Elisabeth and Joey miss Final.
Joey: You ought to try wagering between $1,801 and $2,800. This will top a $0 wager by Tamara while still beating Elisabeth and Tamara on the Triple Stumper (should Elisabeth wager to cover Tamara's doubled score and Tamara wager to cover your doubled score).

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
In 2005 a sculpture of an African elephant was installed outside this country's embassy in Washington, D.C.

FINAL SCORES
Joey: $6,400 - $2,401 = $3,999 (What is Kenya?) (New champion: $3,999)
Tamara: $8,200 - $6,001 = $2,199 (What is South Africa?) (2nd place: $2,000)
Elisabeth: $8,800 - $7,601 = $1,199 (What is Kenya) (3rd place: $1,000)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $9,400

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Joey: $12,400, 19 R, 4 W (including 2 DDs)
Tamara: $8,200, 13 R, 2 W
Elisabeth: $6,600, 12 R (including 1 DD), 6 W
Combined Coryat: $27,200

BATTING AVERAGES
Joey: 19/60 = .317
Tamara: 13/58 = .224
Elisabeth: 12/59 = .203
Team: 44/63 = .698

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
AP MALE ATHLETE OF THE YEAR $800: 1995:
Reliable star seen here

AP MALE ATHLETE OF THE YEAR $1000: 1935:
Heavyweight boxer who defeated Primo Carnera & Max Baer in a 3-month period
(Elisabeth: Who is Joe Frazier?)
...
(Alex: Yes, 1935.)

STUPID ANSWERS $200: It's the highest mountain in Kenya
(Elisabeth: What is Mt. Kilimanjaro?)

GOOD NEWS $1000: The Inuit were exempted from a 1986 worldwide ban on commercial hunting of these animals
(Elisabeth: What are seals?)

PLANT-HERS $1000: Siberian, Yellow Flag & Dwarf Bearded are varieties of this popular 4-letter garden flower
(Joey: What is a Rose?)

A "LEG" TO STAND ON $600: Hit the bricks at this theme park that has locations in Denmark, Germany, England & Carlsbad, California
(Elisabeth: What is Lego? [*]?)

A "LEG" TO STAND ON $400: The soybean is a member of this plant family
[The end-of-round signal sounds.]

AFRICAN-AMERICAN ACTORS $1600: Woody Strode, seen here in this Kirk Douglas film, helped integrate the NFL in 1946 with the Rams

AFRICAN-AMERICAN ACTORS $2000: He's gone from "Ocean's Eleven" to "Hotel Rwanda"

PROPOSED STATES $1600: Absaroka, which in 1939 proclaimed a governor & a Miss Absaroka, had parts of this state, Montana & South Dakota
(Joey: What is North Dakota?)
(Tamara: What is Nebraska?)

POISON $800: The venom of the Gaboon viper can affect the way your blood does this inside you--either too much or too little
(Alex: We'll accept that, yes.)

POISON $1600: In 1935 actress Thelma Todd was found in her car, dead of this type of poisoning under unexplained circumstances
(Alex: Correct, with less than a minute to go.)

NEW YORK MUSEUMS $400: Alfred Barr Jr., the founding director of this museum, intended it to help people enjoy the visual arts of our time
(Elisabeth: What is the Metropolitan Museum of Art?)

CORRECT RESPONSES
the hearing-impaired (the deaf)
a drive-in theater
the Wilderness Road
Bangladesh
(Alexander) Calder
Nicholas Nickleby
Deseret
Wee Willie Winkie
the Hayden Planetarium
nonplus
Côte d'Ivoire
Cal Ripken, Jr.
Joe Louis
Mt. Kenya
whales
an Iris
Legoland
legume
Spartacus
Don Cheadle
Wyoming
flow
carbon monoxide
MOMA (the Museum of Modern Art)

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Re: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Post by jeff6286 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:43 pm

Symbolic Sculpture
In 2005 a sculpture of an African elephant was installed outside this country's embassy in Washington, D.C.
SpoilerShow
What is the Ivory Coast? Joey and Elisabeth both said Kenya; Tamara said South Africa.

Elisabeth Carrel: $8,800-$7,601=$1,199
Tamara Tatum-Broughton: $8,200-$6,001=$2,199
Joey Falco: $6,400-$2,401=$3,999...now a 1-day champion with $3,999
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Post by TenPoundHammer » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:28 pm

Is this the first time the word "boobs" has been said on the show?

Okay, I've clearly gone dyslexic if I thought MoMA stood for Metropolitan Ouseum Mf Art.

Carbon monoxide seemed to be the easiest by far in Poison.

I didn't see "1984" anywhere in the Stupid Answers for $400. $1000 also seemed kinda vague.

Blah blah blah African elephant. Screw it, I'm not picking a country, I'm gonna be wrong no matter what I pick. Elephant->Ivory Coast seemed about as obvious as a black lab dressed as Johnny Cash in a darkroom. During a blackout.
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Post by DWS » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:33 pm

A mediocre game to watch. My WAG for FJ was incorrect.
TenPoundHammer wrote:Okay, I've clearly gone dyslexic if I thought MoMA stood for Metropolitan Ouseum Mf Art.
MoMA = Museum of Modern Art
TenPoundHammer wrote:I didn't see "1984" anywhere in the Stupid Answers for $400.
The clue mentioned it was a bestseller in 1984 despite being published 35 years earlier.

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Post by Snaxx » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:34 pm

Add me to the list of Kenya negs, that was my first instinct and I went with it.
I didn't get the TOM, so I was a...
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Ghana
... on Final.

TPH: I remember the Stupid Answers 1984 clue did have "1984" in it, saying in 1984 it was back on the bestsellers list.

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Post by ACW » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:35 pm

I love the stupid answers categories (though I was thinking "Mount High" :lol:).
Joe Louis was too easy; I was thinking Braddock.

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:43 pm

DWS wrote:
TenPoundHammer wrote:Okay, I've clearly gone dyslexic if I thought MoMA stood for Metropolitan Ouseum Mf Art.
MoMA = Museum of Modern Art
I knew that once it was said. Notice my misspelling, too.
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Post by xxaaaxx » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:43 pm

I WAGed Tanzania, thinking of the Serengeti. So much for that 5/5 last week.

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Post by HugoZ » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:47 pm

Tried to come up with a country that gained statehood round about that time. Failing at that, I bailed and went with the answer that 2 out of 3 Jeopardy! contestants prefer.

Wasn't there a user on the old board named O'Trivia Newton-John?

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:55 pm

HugoZ wrote:Wasn't there a user on the old board named O'Trivia Newton-John?
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Post by StevenH » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:01 pm

What a total crap FJ clue. I think that might have been an even worse TOM than "America will march along that skyline=Mt. Rushmore." Seriously, elephant->ivory->Ivory Coast!? I was trying to think of major current events from 2005 but could only think of the tsunami in southeast Asia (okay, that was the end of 2004), Hurricane Katrina, and Natalee Holloway, so naturally I got nowhere. I said Somalia just to have a guess. I thought of the death of Pope John Paul II at the end and would have switched to the Vatican, thinking that there was some connection there, but didn't have enough time.
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Post by Bamaman » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:04 pm

I went with Kenya but was worried since it had been used earlier in the game.

TPH-Elephants have tusks made of ivory.
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Post by TenPoundHammer » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:08 pm

Bamaman wrote:TPH-Elephants have tusks made of ivory.
I know that much, but the fact that "elephant" was the TOM was, as StevenH pointed out, far from obvious.
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Post by Austin Powers » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:13 pm

I said Tunisia, thinking Carthage and Hannibal and elephants. Of course no elephants live there now, but at least there was a story and a reason to "have" an elephant.

Cote d'Ivoire makes sense, it's just not immediately obvious, and since the category gave you no heads up - for example, by being called "Countries of Africa," I wasn't exactly in the mindset to scroll through all 50-plus countries or so. It doesn't help that most of the elephants in Africa live well south of Cote d'Ivoire now (see the name of the country). Point is, in my run through of the continent, I never made it that far west.

I thought it was actually a pretty rough board today. Some stuff I just didn't know, some I just didn't have the right neurons firing.

I don't have the scores in front of me, but I think Elizabeth overbet, yes? If she bets to cover, she has more. I am not sure why Joey was betting.

Oh! And a habit of the writers that drives me bonkers. When you say Montana and South Dakota, it could be North Dakota, or Wyoming - so flip a coin? I dislike questions like that. Don't make people do that. Instead, ask about the Black Hills. Or Rapid City. Or something more specifically identifiable and TOM friendly. They did the same thing with the Pakistan/India question where you're supposed to guess Bangladesh, since it's the biggest other country around there, and they're all sorta one unit, right? Unless it goes to Myanmar! Or Bhutan! Or straight on into China! (Peshawar is really northern Pakistan, so a road could easily run from it to India into China).

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Post by alietr » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:15 pm

Seriously bogus question. I drive by the Cote d'Ivoire Embassy twice a day every %&$(#@! weekday. The elephant they're referring to is apparently in a courtyard, since it is definitely not in front of it. I say "Show me the elephant!" Now India, they do have an elephant in front of their embassy, but clearly it's not African. And then 2005 was just plain a red herring. I am pissed at such a dreadful, dreadful clue.

See (or not see) for yourselves (you can, however, see the elephant next to the flag marked 'C'):

http://g.co/maps/czcb5

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Post by StevenH » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:19 pm

Austin Powers wrote:Oh! And a habit of the writers that drives me bonkers. When you say Montana and South Dakota, it could be North Dakota, or Wyoming - so flip a coin? I dislike questions like that. Don't make people do that. Instead, ask about the Black Hills. Or Rapid City. Or something more specifically identifiable and TOM friendly. They did the same thing with the Pakistan/India question where you're supposed to guess Bangladesh, since it's the biggest other country around there, and they're all sorta one unit, right? Unless it goes to Myanmar! Or Bhutan! Or straight on into China! (Peshawar is really northern Pakistan, so a road could easily run from it to India into China).
Yeah, that "Almost a New State" category or whatever it was reminded me of the "Hating Shakespeare" category from last night: a really cool idea, but one that the writers didn't handle with care, and ended up with a category full of vague and trivial clues.

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Post by jaxjags » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:27 pm

Heh, my name is Joey also.

I thought of South Africa, when Trebek explained why it was Ivory Coast, I felt dumb. But that's just a question that isn't exactly too easy to come across in 30 seconds.

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Post by jeff6286 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:35 pm

Austin Powers wrote: I don't have the scores in front of me, but I think Elizabeth overbet, yes? If she bets to cover, she has more. I am not sure why Joey was betting.
Elisabeth Carrel: $8,800-$7,601=$1,199
Tamara Tatum-Broughton: $8,200-$6,001=$2,199
Joey Falco: $6,400-$2,401=$3,999

Nope, Elisabeth made the MSB, not a dollar more. I actually liked all 3 players wagers today, and Joey just happened to be in the fortunate 3rd place position and made the bet he needed to win on a triple stumper. He could have bet $0 and achieved the same result, but I have no issues with him betting to reach $8,801 and top Elisabeth just in case she bet little or nothing. On a miss he still stayed ahead of the $3,599 that Tamara would have had if she had made the MSB to cover him, so he wasn't really risking anything other than taking a bit of money out of his pocket on a triple stumper victory.

I was thinking that he might have won the game because of his Nicholas Nickleby miss, but now that I look at the scores, if he had added the $8,000 from getting that DD right, and nothing else changed drastically, he would have had a 2/3rds game, so as long as he wagered properly he should have still won on the triple stumper.

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Post by BoK » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:41 pm

Austin Powers wrote:I said Tunisia, thinking Carthage and Hannibal and elephants. Of course no elephants live there now, but at least there was a story and a reason to "have" an elephant.
I originally thought Kenya, but saw no reason to prefer it to any of the other countries with elephants. Then I thought of Hannibal and settled on Tunisia, but I wasn't really happy with it since it didn't really seem "Symbolic."

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