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David Green gets the relevant clue in the COLORS category.

I got "What is Nippon?" for DOUBLE "P"s for $1000. I'm guessing that wouldn't fly.

I suspect the airdate wasn't actually a Saturday.

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Robert K S wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:10 am
Added Season 2 show #350, aired 1986-01-10.

I think COLORS $500 wouldn't be in the bottom row today, nor would Alex have given a BMS prompt on David's initial response.
(No errata.)

That does seem on the easy side for a bottom row clue. It would be interesting to see whether that response got a BMS today. I don't think it should, but it seems like the kind of thing that very well might. And then we'd complain about it here. :D

I wonder if they had to pay royalties for Alex singing part of the Paul Anka song on J29. This may have been an early mistake where they learned something the hard way. That's coming out of your paycheque, Trebek! (It wasn't until 1998 that he started getting a paycheck like the rest of his fellow Americans.)

I stood and stared (well, sat and stared) just like the contestants at at DJ1 SHAKESPEAREAN TRIVIA $200: Pail-of-water fetchers referred to in "A Midsummer Night's Dream"
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Jack & Jill. I recognized the reference, of course, but for some reason it didn't occur to me that they'd be referred to directly in a Shakespeare play. So I overcomplicated the clue, trying to think about jacks o' the green or something jills that might exist in the Midsummer Night's Dream universe.
In the very next clue, I lost points by screwing up the preposition in Shakespeare's play about a couple of Italian guys.
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The Two Gentlemen OF Verona. (I said "from".)
The following three clues were not about Shakespeare so much as Mutiny on the Bounty (film), opera, and Laurence Olivier. I got the first two and two of the three out of four Shakespeare roles for which Olivier received Oscar nominations.
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Hamlet, Richard III, Henry V, Othello. I knew Hamlet and Henry V, and waffled between Richard III and Macbeth, finally settling on Macbeth. Steve got Hamlet Richard III and, like me, guessed Macbeth for the zonk. Steve didn't have the advantage of playing this game after Branagh's Henry V and the inevitable comparisons to Olivier.
So on clues about actual Shakespeare content, I went 0 for 2. 2, coincidentally, is the number of Shakespeare classes I took as an English major at UCLA. Sigh. Didn't read either of the plays mentioned in the clues, but still....

I'm skeptical about their expected response for DJ8 EUROPE $400: Per capita, Germany leads for consuming beer, Portugal for wine, & this country for total alcohol
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France, they say. Today, Andorra has a higher alcohol consumption rate. I wonder if that was so back then. Furthermore, I'm almost positive the USSR had a higher consumption rate. And most of that was due to the European part of the USSR where all the people were--Western Russia, Belarus, Ukraine. Several Soviet satellite countries probably also outdid France--Czechoslovakia, Lithuania, Romania, Hungary. But France probably came out first in terms of sales. The USSR and its satellite states probably had a lot more black market and home-brewed consumption that wouldn't make it onto the official stats. I'd have recommended scrapping the clue or pinning it to a source.
Even in 1986 they got a TS for DJ25 ’60s CINEMA $1000: His last screen role was as Nevada Smith in "The Carpetbaggers"
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Alan Ladd. No way they'd even try that clue today. Ladd's last appearance as a correct response in the archive was in 2000 where he was identified as the star of Shane. I think even that factoid wouldn't be asked for outside a TOC today.
Didn't know the significance o McLean House in FJ.

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MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:52 am
I got "What is Nippon?" for DOUBLE "P"s for $1000. I'm guessing that wouldn't fly.
Points for creativity, though. I finally got to the right response, but way past the buzzer.
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Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:52 am
I suspect the airdate wasn't actually a Saturday.
Good catch. Assuming the next game's date is correct with Steve as a three-time champ on Monday, January 13, this game should be Friday, January 10.

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Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:21 pm
Good catch. Assuming the next game's date is correct with Steve as a three-time champ on Monday, January 13, this game should be Friday, January 10.
I don't know what you guys are talking about.

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Maybe Ladd Sr. is too tough nowadays but I can see them asking about his son Laddie's greenlighting of Star Wars as head of production for 20th Century Fox.

https://www.nytimes.com/1977/07/17/arch ... ducer.html

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The first time I saw Arthur Chu it wasn't on Jeopardy! but performing with the dog Crabbe (Molly) referenced in SHAKESPEAREAN TRIVIA $400.
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Robert K S wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:28 pm
opusthepenguin wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:21 pm
Good catch. Assuming the next game's date is correct with Steve as a three-time champ on Monday, January 13, this game should be Friday, January 10.
I don't know what you guys are talking about.
Our mistake. My eyeballs are working better now. Imagine two guys having the same temporary vision problem like that! :lol:

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It must be something that's going around.

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opusthepenguin wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:04 pm
Robert K S wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:28 pm
opusthepenguin wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:21 pm
Good catch. Assuming the next game's date is correct with Steve as a three-time champ on Monday, January 13, this game should be Friday, January 10.
I don't know what you guys are talking about.
Our mistake. My eyeballs are working better now. Imagine two guys having the same temporary vision problem like that! :lol:
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