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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MarkBarrett » Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:36 pm

I added S6 to complete Mike Clark’s run of games: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6001

Player pics of Doris Bell, Harvey Caughey and Mike Clark:
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Well done by the players with 59R and only one TS clue.
Television $100: She’s still making news 28 years later.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by GoodStrategy » Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:23 pm

Just for fun here's a list of the "Archive Milestone" (x000) games:

6000 - reached with the June 6, 2018 game
5000 - A "new old game" (January 12, 1989); the milestone was reached in late July 2015
4000 - reached with the October 26, 2012 game
3000 - reached with the May 5, 2009 game
2000 - Another "new old game" (December 27, 1999); the milestone was reached sometime during the 2007 summer hiatus
1000 - Yet another "new old game" (albeit one that I believe was airing on GSN at the time it was entered - October 12, 2001); the milestone was reached in early June 2006

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MarkBarrett » Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:42 pm

I added S5 11/21/88: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6002

Pics of Barbara Bradley, Dennis McNeil, & Steve Brown:
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Comments about the game:
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Mars $400: Hmm, seems familiar
Sports $100: Is this really true? How? Why?
Sports $400: Why the BMS? Exactly how many Browns teams were in Ohio in 1951?
World Travel $800: Nasty placement for DD2 and trying to pick the right country
Animals $1000: All four? Oh sure, that’s gonna happen.
Presidents $800: trap city begging for negs and the players did not disappoint
FJ clue: I got to prisoner and avoided my first instinct of Chicago.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by GoodStrategy » Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:09 pm

And here are the "Milestone Contestants":

12000 - Caroline Trammel (2018 College Championship quarterfinalist)
11000 - Rachel Hopkins (1-time champion on November 3-4, 2016)
10000 - Eric Newhouse (1989 Teen Tournament winner - milestone reached when this "new old game" was entered around mid-July 2015)
9000 - Tom Nissey (1st runner-up to the 2011 ToC - milestone reached with his Battle of the Decades appearance on March 31, 2014)
8000 - Stephanie Kelleher (one-and-done on September 28, 2012)
7000 - Molly Zeigler (one-and-done on September 29, 2010)
6000 - Bill Wellman ("new old game" from the 1999 Armed Forces week that originally aired on June 29 of that year - milestone reached in early May 2009)
5000 - Jon Stewart (played on the November 17, 1999 Celebrity Jeopardy! episode - milestone reached when this "new old game" was entered in early June 2008)
4000 - Rachel Gottesman (Summer 2007 Teen Tournament semifinalist)
3000 - Richard Shildt (1-time champion from a "new old game" that originally aired on April 8, 1991 - milestone reached around Christmas 2006)
2000 - Wendy Salisbury (one-and-done from a "new old game" that originally aired on January 8, 1999 - milestone reached around Memorial Day 2006)
1000 - Peji Ghanouni (1990 Teen Tournament semifinalist - milestone reached when this "new old game" was entered during the 2005 summer hiatus)

Edited: I had "old new game" instead of "new old game" in some places, and omitted part of a date.
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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by GoodStrategy » Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:24 pm

I thought I'd also do the multiple-of-2,500 games and contestants not covered in the thousands list:

Game 2500 - reached with the June 2, 2008 game

Player 7500 - Adam Perrotta (one-and-done on October 7, 2011)
Player 2500 - Cathy Friedman (one-and-done from a "new old game" that originally aired on December 24, 1997; milestone reached during [likely near the end of] the 2006 summer hiatus)

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by alietr » Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:38 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:42 pm
I added S5 11/21/88: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6002

Comments about the game:
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Presidents $800: trap city begging for negs and the players did not disappoint
Nor did Alex on the "No Harm, No Foul".

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by Volante » Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:14 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:42 pm
Sports $100:...
They seem to have inadvertently amended that report with new data

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by seaborgium » Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:08 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:42 pm
I added S5 11/21/88: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6002
I thought DOUBLE LETTERS for $400 was a brilliant clue: pigments and light have two primary colors in common, and the ones that are in one category and not the other both have a double letter, so you better know which is which.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by GoodStrategy » Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:16 am

Here's some trivia from the "milestone contestants" I entered: Two of them, at some point in their J! careers, pulled justifiable Clavins that paid off. Which contestants, and which games, am I talking about?

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by econgator » Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:30 am

seaborgium wrote:
Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:08 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:42 pm
I added S5 11/21/88: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6002
I thought DOUBLE LETTERS for $400 was a brilliant clue: pigments and light have two primary colors in common, and the ones that are in one category and not the other both have a double letter, so you better know which is which.
Also can help if you remember that one type of component cables on a TV set are called RGB cables.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by Jeff-thecdboy » Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:30 am

Eric Newhouse (in his first 1998 Teen Reunion game) and Jon Stewart (a celebrity episode where he was playing for charity) both pulled the justifiable Clavins that GoodStrategy was referring to.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MarkBarrett » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:30 pm

I added the second game of S8 from 9/3/91: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6006

Player pics of Kathrine Marris (author K.K. Beck), Bob Ramsey & Richard Bannin:
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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MarkBarrett » Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:40 pm

I added S5 12/21/88: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6008

Player pics of Elizabeth Krown Spellman, John Hawekotte & Stuart Jacobson:
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My tape did not have the introductions, so it was nice that Stuart & John were already in the Archive. For Elizabeth, Alex gave her name during chat time and she named the bookstore she owned with her husband to make it easy to research her name. It’s possible she could have been introduced with a hyphen for her last name? All indications point to her being from California and I am not sensing one of those “originally from” introductions, so I gave her California on her bio page.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MarkBarrett » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:54 pm

While working on a game to input tomorrow (John Hawekotte's next game), John mentioned he was working on a screenplay. Curious about it I put his name into Google and turned this up: http://www.hawekotte.com/our-team

The line that caught my eye?

An avid reader and learner, John is a five-time Jeopardy! champion and enjoys participating in local trivia competitions.

I think the resume is a bit padded. ;)

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by Bamaman » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:43 pm

Fake news!!!

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by cheezguyty » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:45 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:54 pm
While working on a game to input tomorrow (John Hawekotte's next game), John mentioned he was working on a screenplay. Curious about it I put his name into Google and turned this up: http://www.hawekotte.com/our-team

The line that caught my eye?

An avid reader and learner, John is a five-time Jeopardy! champion and enjoys participating in local trivia competitions.

I think the resume is a bit padded. ;)
Is it possible that he also won three games on one of the Art Fleming versions? That was the explanation for why Perry Barber (who also lost to Jeff Richmond :!:) is still able to call herself a champion, as was talked about way upthread.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by jlgarfield » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:28 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:30 pm
I added the second game of S8 from 9/3/91: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6006

Player pics of Kathrine Marris (author K.K. Beck), Bob Ramsey & Richard Bannin:
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Here's something neat I found on the internet a while ago: A publicity photo from that ep. Notice how the first round values are up on the board and that there different categories than the ones that were actually used.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MarkBarrett » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:19 pm

I added S5 12/22/88: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6010

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My tape did not have the introductions so I used what I heard during the chats. Alex called Willie William, so I don’t know if Willian was shown at the opening or not. Jean talked writing a book that sold 200 copies about how to start and operate a word processing business. Alex said she came from the contestant search in Davenport so I gave her Iowa for her state.
If John is indeed a 5-time J! champ as he has posted on an online bio page then he has 3 wins from the Fleming version as he loses his next game against Jeff Richmond.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by jlgarfield » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:58 pm

Re: The $200 Crime and Punishment clue:
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Bingo is still illegal in the UAE.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MarkBarrett » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:10 pm

jlgarfield wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:58 pm
Re: The $200 Crime and Punishment clue:
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Bingo is still illegal in the UAE.
Ah, thanks for checking, I was going to do that and forgot. The first clue of the game became no longer true in 1998.

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