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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by booboo9921 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:55 pm

Thanks for putting the name of the 5th category in the j! round, (I honestly couldn't read it when the $500 clue was revealed. BUT I assumed it was "cooking with graham kerr" because he's the only famous chef named graham that i know of.)

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by booboo9921 » Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:53 pm

One other thing, about the missing category name in the jeopardy round (on the october 26 1993 episode) (I hate to sound like a jerk and if i do I apologize), but I WOULD THINK the odds are it's a name that was used in a previously entered game,)

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MinnesotaMyron » Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:42 pm

booboo9921 wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:53 pm
One other thing, about the missing category name in the jeopardy round (on the october 26 1993 episode) (I hate to sound like a jerk and if i do I apologize), but I WOULD THINK the odds are it's a name that was used in a previously entered game,)
Huh?

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by booboo9921 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:28 am

oh never mind.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by dell3234 » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:48 pm

I have a long term goal,

I am asking for anybody who has time to put in any season 1-12 episodes that are missing.

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:02 pm

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Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:48 pm
I have a long term goal,

I am asking for anybody who has time to put in any season 1-12 episodes that are missing.
That is literally the only thing you've ever posted about here. The archivists are limited by what they can find. If you have any of these episodes yourself, send the tapes/DVDs/betamax/potato-cam/whatever form you have it in! Episodes aren't going to just magically appear.
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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MinnesotaMyron » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:02 pm

dell3234 wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:48 pm
I have a long term goal,

I am asking for anybody who has time to put in any season 1-12 episodes that are missing.
Stop posting things like this. We'll get to them when we have them or have time. It's not "your goal" to demand or command.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by seaborgium » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:33 pm

dell3234 wrote:
Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:48 pm
I have a long term goal,

I am asking for anybody who has time to put in any season 1-12 episodes that are missing.
I'm goddamned sick of seeing this thread bumped and coming in hoping for a new-to-me game, just to see that it's you wanting more games archived. We all want more games archived, including the Archivists. It's not lack of time or motivation that's keeping the games from being archived.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by jlgarfield » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:38 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:59 pm
Volante wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:33 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu Aug 16, 2018 12:17 pm
For MOVIES $300 I did not add any kind of note. Is that quote correct? Does Scheider say it several times? The same way each time or different ways? I took a quick look on YT and found the line said differently.

If a fan of the movie has a strong need for some kind of ERRATUM then let me know and I can add something.
I'm going off memory here, but that line as typed doesn't even ring a bell. He says the iconic two words several times, but I know there's at least two variants it's involved in.
Thanks. I'll monitor the correction suggestions that come in as well. For now I'll leave the clue as is.

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I added what I had of 7/12/89: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6090

With introductions missing for this game I went with Hart over Harte for Maureen’s last name when Alex said it. For Gil I heard something in the neighborhood of Honnaker, Honager, Honneger etc. with too many possibilities to take a guess.

Finding even this portion of a 1989 seniors game was a surprise, since that is the one tourney I thought I had none of on tape. With other tournaments I expect a lot more complete games and incomplete ones the rarity. [Fingers crossed]

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Re: The $1,000 clue in AMERICAN FOOD:
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I've never actually heard the word good used as a grade for meat. I thought the next one down from prime and choice was select.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by jeff6286 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:24 pm

jlgarfield wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:38 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:59 pm

I added what I had of 7/12/89: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6090

With introductions missing for this game I went with Hart over Harte for Maureen’s last name when Alex said it. For Gil I heard something in the neighborhood of Honnaker, Honager, Honneger etc. with too many possibilities to take a guess.

Finding even this portion of a 1989 seniors game was a surprise, since that is the one tourney I thought I had none of on tape. With other tournaments I expect a lot more complete games and incomplete ones the rarity. [Fingers crossed]

Player pics of Tom Welter: Gil, & Maureen Hart:
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Re: The $1,000 clue in AMERICAN FOOD:
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I've never actually heard the word good used as a grade for meat. I thought the next one down from prime and choice was select.
This is certainly true now, after some digging I found that good was changed to select in November 1987, which would make it surprising that Jeopardy! was asking for Good roughly a year and a half later. It's possible the change was announced in 1987 but not enacted for consumers until some later date, I suppose.

source: https://meat.tamu.edu/meat-grading-history/

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MarkBarrett » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:30 pm

This is how we get some more old games:

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Amy asked to borrow a VCR and Howard hooked it up to make sure it still works. Bernadette asked, "What's on the tape?"

After what is shown on the CC, Howard says, "but if I push play and you see some naked people..."
Bernadette: Got it. What is porn? [Laughter]
Howard: Ooh, we were looking for vintage '80s erotica, but I'll accept it.

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Post by Robert K S » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:58 pm

"old games"

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MarkBarrett » Sun Dec 16, 2018 10:16 pm

Sg won't have to break any commandments as this is a legitimate bump.

I filled in 2/1/02: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=1389

It's S18 so the links should all be working with a couple the video and not just .jpg variety.

The J! writers were busted for poor clue pinning on Embassy $600. $800 in the category will be fun for those playing South Africa city roulette.

LLers will notice Briefly $600 has a bit of related familiarity to a question from last week.

Quite the audience for the FJ! clue performance:
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#950, aired 1988-10-21 GERSHWIN $800: Rachmaninoff, Stravinsky, Victor Herbert & J.P. Sousa went to its premiere on Lincoln's birthday, 1924

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MarkBarrett » Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:13 pm

2/18/02 is filled in: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=1434

The links should work.

Ouch on Erin biting on a false TOM at FEATURE FILM DEBUTS $2000. Contestants on before the heyday of social media can sometimes count themselves fortunate.

DD3 had no audible phrasing. The editor must have clipped it as the possibility of the judges asleep at work does not seem right. The bigger all too common crime was the wager.

Sorry, I won't be able to archive anymore games.

Until next year.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by LucarioSnooperVixey » Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:34 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:13 pm
Sorry, I won't be able to archive anymore games.

Until next year.
That's okay, we can wait. :lol:
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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by Jeff-thecdboy » Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:29 am

pannoni4 has posted the July 17, 2002 (only the intro is in so far) episode at the Internet Archive:

http://archive.org/details/@pannoni4

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MinnesotaMyron » Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:51 am

And Happy New Year, everyone. I've got a couple of weeks off to start the new year, so I'm hoping to get a few games knocked off the old checklist, or as least get some organizing of my tapes and workspace going. We'll see.

http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6070

Anyway, maybe I should have held this one off for 4 more days, since it's from almost exactly 27 years ago, January 6, 1992, Bruce Gardner vs. Janet Sargent vs. Todd Lefkowitz. This is the first game from a pair of tapes that were donated by ToC/M$M/UToC/BotD player India Cooper. Unfortunately, they do not include her own games, but we've got about 10 or 12 of those awesome, quick to enter early '90s games you all know I love so much.

This game adds a good number of facts to the J!-Canon including Ellen "Maximum" Morphonios (specifically her occupation), the play "Captain Brassbound's Conversion" (surprising, given its author), and the minister to Elizabeth I who stated that "bad money drives out good" (a fact you may remember from my way-too-difficult practice contestant exam from about 15 years back). That economic law has been mentioned a number of times on the show, but this is the only instance we have of the fellow's name being asked for.
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There's a couple of other ones, but I'll leave them for you all to find. I thought Evelyn Waugh's "The Loved One" might be new, but it's appeared quite a few times actually. It's new to me though.

Also new to me, the clue of the game, FAMOUS WOMEN for $400 (J!):
This woman & her partner Adolph Green were named to the Songwriters Hall of Fame in 1980
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Who is Betty Comden?
She's been asked for 4 times, always in conjunction with him, and most recently in 1993, so you might want to save that flashcard for something a little more relevant. He's been asked for just once, in conjunction with her, and also they spotted you "Green", which seems like a lot of help to me.

Interestingly, FJ! is basically a re-write of GREEK MYTHOLOGY for $200, a top row DJ! clue in this game from 3 years earlier. It does feel a little tough for a top row clue, even in Double Jeopardy.

Hope you all have a good day and a happy Hardcastle.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by Jeff-thecdboy » Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:39 am

There's still a few more unarchived games on this site (scroll down to the bottom of the page to find them): http://archive.org/details/@pannoni4

October 1, 1991 (starts at clue #12)
October 17, 1994
October 18, 1994 (first round only)

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MinnesotaMyron » Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:47 pm

MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:09 am
No chance of getting other recently posted early game (October 30, 1991) finished tonight, but I might be able to get it started. We'll see.
I did get it started that night. And today I got it finished. Jonathan Loeb vs. Eileen Doherty vs. Greg Shepherd (who looks like Allen Ludden from a distance).

http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6154

Quick recap.

The CELEBRITY JEOPARDY! category in the J! round predates Celebrity Jeopardy! by a year. (Celeb. J! was a thing in the Fleming era though, of course.)

I went through quite a google-rabbit hole trying to figure the connection between Tom Dooley the song and Tom Dooley the doctor. (Spoiler, there really isn't one.)

Clue of the game will be a tough OPERA clue worth knowing for $1000:
Enrico Caruso made his U.S. debut on November 23, 1903 as the Duke of Mantua in this opera
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FJ! is hard, even today. Anyone have a good in to the clue? Is one movie more famous than the others?

Next game, not sure, plenty to choose from. See you later.

(And yes, I am writing this while playing Confetti.)

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by jeff6286 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:40 pm

Indeed the final seems very tough. The miniseries starring Gary Cole had just aired earlier that year so maybe it could have been fresh in the mind, and it won 4 emmies which could have been even fresher in the mind, possibly just before taping. (Then again I’m not sure anyone knew who Gary Cole was before Office Space which was still nearly a decade away.) Obviously none of this helped the 3 on stage...

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