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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by opusthepenguin » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:49 pm

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Bonus trivia: what is the only name in common between the Pac-Man ghosts and Disney's Seven Dwarfs?
I give up. There are no overlaps based on this page:

https://pacman.fandom.com/wiki/Ghosts

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by Ivoryface86 » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:44 pm

Now Mark, Michael Galvin and Mike Becker were tied with $6400 going into FJ!, who's FJ! response was shown first? And our friend Trevor Panno(aka animfan) says that this episode aired on February 18, 1987 according to Trevor. I wonder how Trevor is doing. Here's what I'm thinking, the minimum guarantees for 2nd and 3rd place finishers in the 2-episode Finals in the Seniors Tournament was $5000, I wonder if this Teen Tournament had the same minimum guarantees of $5000 for 2nd and 3rd place finishers for some reason? I know GSN reran this Teen Tournament for sure.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

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Now Mark, Michael Galvin and Mike Becker were tied with $6400 going into FJ!, who's FJ! response was shown first? And our friend Trevor Panno(aka animfan) says that this episode aired on February 18, 1987 according to Trevor. I wonder how Trevor is doing. Here's what I'm thinking, the minimum guarantees for 2nd and 3rd place finishers in the 2-episode Finals in the Seniors Tournament was $5000, I wonder if this Teen Tournament had the same minimum guarantees of $5000 for 2nd and 3rd place finishers for some reason? I know GSN reran this Teen Tournament for sure.

Alex went to Mike first and then to Michael. Is there something unusual about this order? (Is this the kind of thing that needs to be included in the Archive?) The airdate stuff comes up each time someone does a S3 game. Game 1 was already in the Archive and I followed suit for games 2-8. For finals money I'm sure Alex said earlier in the tournament that 2nd and 3rd keep what they make without mentioning a minimum.

It will probably come up again before the tourney is over. I will watch and listen for a confirmation about Dana getting her total augmented.

Whether GSN ran this tourney never, once or ten times has nothing to do with my taping the game off my local affiliate.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MarkBarrett » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:24 pm

I added 2/26/87: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6310

Teen Tournament Finals 1 with Mitch Epner, Dana Venator and Michael Galvin

Alex gave them the business for saving SPELLING for last. It worked out okay after the rough start. Those correct responses are no fun to archive.

I added an Erratum for the Life Savers flavor.

Here is a video for one clue that went down a little strange:
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For the FJ! clue I only capitalized Pacific. Is that the correct way?

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by Robert K S » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:32 pm

Wikipedia has "Time Zone" in caps as well. Makes sense, as it's the name of a time zone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Time_Zone

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by Robert K S » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:33 pm

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[SPELLING] worked out okay after the rough start.
That is hilarious that two contestants couldn't spell "misspell".

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MarkBarrett » Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:30 pm

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Wikipedia has "Time Zone" in caps as well. Makes sense, as it's the name of a time zone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Time_Zone
I made the change. My method on Google "capitalize pacific time zone" turned up conflicting opinions. For correction suggestions I accepted the suggestions. It's nice to know eagle eyes are at work such as a space before a comma.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by alietr » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:37 pm

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Here is a video for one clue that went down a little strange:
Interesting. He definitely would have been ruled correct nowadays. Did that change at some point?

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by econgator » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:46 pm

alietr wrote:
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MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:24 pm
Here is a video for one clue that went down a little strange:
Interesting. He definitely would have been ruled correct nowadays. Did that change at some point?
Would he? He said Mary Dodd.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by alietr » Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:50 pm

econgator wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:46 pm
alietr wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:37 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:24 pm
Here is a video for one clue that went down a little strange:
Interesting. He definitely would have been ruled correct nowadays. Did that change at some point?
Would he? He said Mary Dodd.
He did, but he changed it before Alex said he was wrong and Alex said they had to take his first answer, which he no longer does.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MinnesotaMyron » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:16 pm

Not to bury Robert's awesome meme, but I have a topic for debate. We have a clue where the correct answer is the Searchers' version of "Love Potion No. 9", originally recorded by The Clovers. And that's the way I always remember seeing the title rendered: "No. 9". But, according to the picture of the single sleeve on Wikipedia, it was there abbreviated "Love Potion Nr. 9", an abbreviation I've never seen before. And my copy of Joel Whitburn shows it as "Love Potion Number Nine". So which version should I use? I'm inclined to go with Whitburn, at least until I can find a copy of the back cover of the LP, or the single label.

Thoughts?

So glad that this came up on clue No. 3 (see what I did there?) of the game I'm doing, to kill any momentum I might have worked up.

ETA: I just found a picture of the single label, which matches the catalog number in Whitburn, and which spells out "Number Nine", so I'm going with that. Sorry to quell the debate so quickly.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by Jeff-thecdboy » Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:21 pm

Just out of curiosity - Does anyone have Burns Cameron's episode of the 1990 Super Jeopardy? It's the only episode from that special tournament I've never been able to find on YouTube, and I was wondering if anyone could upload the intro of that episode to YouTube if they have it.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by jlgarfield » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:55 pm

- Another "What's this episode?" post. This is from season 8, circa January 1992.

Also, I know this may seem like a dumb Q, but I take it the "turn your backs against the board" part is to curtail cheating, I take it.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MarkBarrett » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:17 pm

About 20 seconds in the guy says this is episode 1802. That is where the Archive comes in handy. 1800 is Friday the 29th, so 1802 is Tuesday, June 2, 1992.

Players turn their backs in case there is some kind of board malfunction that accidentally reveals a clue(s). I broke the game more than once when I played with off the wall responses and unexpectedly starting a video category in the middle. As the instruction was given to turn around I took in what I could of the categories to think of what material could show up.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by jlgarfield » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:26 pm

^ Aah. Thanks for the clarification about the "turn your backs" thing. :)

@Mark: What were the results of this game?

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MarkBarrett » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:37 pm

jlgarfield wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:26 pm
^ Aah. Thanks for the clarification about the "turn your backs" thing. :)

@Mark: What were the results of this game?
You saw the players getting drinks from cups. In aught five there were individual mini water bottles with the name marked on the cap. That is not very environmentally friendly so I wonder if that is still how it is done?

Jim: 14000+5000=19000 (2x = $33,400)
Martha: 1500+1500=3000
Charlie: 8400+8400=16800

From Here (another great resource): http://www.j-archive.com/collectedfinals.php
FJ! Category: POETS
FJ! Clue: ALTHOUGH ASSOCIATED WITH NEW ENGLAND, THIS PULITZER-WINNING POET WAS NAMED FOR A CONFEDERATE GENERAL

Correct response:
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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MinnesotaMyron » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:38 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
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About 20 seconds in the guy says this is episode 1802.


Right before that he says, "This is what you'll see June 2nd."
That is where the Archive comes in handy. 1800 is Friday the 29th, so 1802 is Tuesday, June 2, 1992
Yup. We got it right.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MarkBarrett » Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:41 pm

MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:38 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:17 pm
About 20 seconds in the guy says this is episode 1802.


Right before that he says, "This is what you'll see June 2nd."
That is where the Archive comes in handy. 1800 is Friday the 29th, so 1802 is Tuesday, June 2, 1992
Yup. We got it right.
Did a gorilla go across the screen as well? I was so distracted by the visuals of the old set and catching the player names that I never heard the date. Funny how the mind works sometimes.

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