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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MarkBarrett » Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:53 pm

seaborgium wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:16 pm
opusthepenguin wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:32 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:38 am
I added 5/20/88 (Seniors F2): http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6402
Should $1000 U.S. STATES start "1 of THE best-known"?
It feels like it was a common thing in those days to drop an article in the clue readout; Alex would fill it in when reading it.
I checked the tape and no "the" in wording. Sg is correct that Alex included it when reading the clue.

For Joan's incorrect artist, have at it: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ErIaWL ... sp=sharing

I did this on Drive since it's not worthy enough to put on YT and I don't like to wind up the typical comment crowd needlessly.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by opusthepenguin » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:19 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
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For Joan's incorrect artist, have at it:
I'm sticking with Ingres.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MinnesotaMyron » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:58 pm

opusthepenguin wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:19 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:53 pm
For Joan's incorrect artist, have at it:
I'm sticking with Ingres.
I side with the penguin.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MarkBarrett » Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:48 pm

MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:58 pm
opusthepenguin wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:19 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:53 pm
For Joan's incorrect artist, have at it:
I'm sticking with Ingres.
I side with the penguin.
Good enough for me as I have made that edit as well as eliminating the [sounded like] qualifier. Thanks.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MarkBarrett » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:23 am

I added 7/15/93 (Seniors QF4): http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6403

Player pics of Bob McClary, David Chasman & Barbara Broerman:
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Alex called it Madison Square Garden Theatre.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MinnesotaMyron » Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:00 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:23 am
I added 7/15/93 (Seniors QF4): http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6403

Player pics of Bob McClary, David Chasman & Barbara Broerman:
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Barbara’s FJ! clue response:
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Alex called it Madison Square Garden Theatre.
Is the stray close parenthesis on Davd's FJ! response intentional?

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MarkBarrett » Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:22 pm

MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:00 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:23 am
I added 7/15/93 (Seniors QF4): http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6403

Player pics of Bob McClary, David Chasman & Barbara Broerman:
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Barbara’s FJ! clue response:
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Alex called it Madison Square Garden Theatre.
Is the stray close parenthesis on Davd's FJ! response intentional?
No, it must have been some kind of muscle memory for incorrect responses to close it after the question mark. It's gone. Thank you.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by Jeff-thecdboy » Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:51 pm

Minor nitpick: Wasn't the tournament called the "Seniors (plural) Tournament" by 1993?

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MarkBarrett » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:40 pm

Jeff-thecdboy wrote:
Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:51 pm
Minor nitpick: Wasn't the tournament called the "Seniors (plural) Tournament" by 1993?
Yes. It's a necessary correction and thank you for posting. I added the "s" where needed and I'll try to copy/paste the right thing tomorrow.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MarkBarrett » Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:40 am

I added 7/16/93 (Seniors QF5): http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6404

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57R with one TS (TV related) and 2 missed DDs to go along with the triple miss (TV) FJ! clue.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by Jeff-thecdboy » Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:36 am

Pannoni4 has posted the May 14, 1991 (1991 College Semifinal #2) episode on archive.org:

http://archive.org/details/jeopardymay1 ... online.com

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Post by Yak_Forger » Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:10 pm

Thanks for uploading these! I've spent the last couple evenings reading news articles about real estate as the company I work for plans to invest in flats for sale in Berlin, and it soothes me to be able to put some old Jeopardy episodes in the background while I'm working... My wife doesn't necessarily agree, but it pays the holidays, so she puts up with it :lol:
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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MinnesotaMyron » Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:25 am

Jeff-thecdboy wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:36 am
Pannoni4 has posted the May 14, 1991 (1991 College Semifinal #2) episode on archive.org:

http://archive.org/details/jeopardymay1 ... online.com
Well, I had some free time at work tonight, and remarkably archive.org is poking through the firewall, so I was able to get the video.

Tuesday, May 14, 1991, College Championship semi #2, David Morris vs. Kelly Barbour vs. Tim Lakin.

http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6405

There were some tough spots in this board. I personally had trouble with WAR IN THE GULF, with clues I might have picked up at the time, but which are certainly footnotes anymore. I will pick the $300 clue as clue of the game, simply for being a fun fact:
Said one way it means "clash"; the way Bush says it, it means "a shoeshine boy"
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What is Saddam? I did the best I could at transcribing the phonetics of how Alex differentiated them. I personally always say "Suh-dom", which probably doesn't mean anything.
The $400 clue in that category is a fact new to the J-Canon, with a name that is new as a response. Flashcards? Sure, why not? This game also has the Archive's first mention of Tennyson's play about Robin Hood, "The Foresters", in a clue, with a response that is otherwise quite common.

Oh, and speaking of pronouncing things 2 different ways, I also had to demonstrate the varying pronunciations in STATE CAPITALS for $200 (J!), for obvious reasons.

Some unusual capitalization in ABBREVIATIONS for $500:
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David forgot the category in FAMOUS WOMEN for $400 (DJ!). He'd been unsuccessfully DD hunting the whole game, but by this point Tim was pulling away.

Is there another archive.org game recently uploaded? [Yes, one page back.] I doubt I'll get to it tonight, but I've got three more overnights coming up, so there's a good chance for later in the week. I hope I'm not stepping on anything Mark has planned.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MarkBarrett » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:40 am

I added 7/22/93 (Seniors F1): http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6407

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Myron: Thanks for working on the 1991 games and not a problem by me to take on those. I'm doing F2 for the 1993 Seniors tomorrow and then what I have of 1988 Senior SF1 on Wednesday.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MarkBarrett » Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:26 am

I added 7/23/93 (Seniors F2): http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6408

Player pics of Will Herrera, Hugh Murphy & Marilyn Kneeland were posted yesterday.

Alex named this as the 2000th episode.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MarkBarrett » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:10 pm

Just to note: Marilyn Kneeland, Hugh Murphy, and Will Herrera played in the same quarterfinal match for that short list of that happening in tourney play.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by Robert K S » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:47 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
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...7/23/93 (Seniors F2): http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6408 ... Alex named this [Show #2065] as the 2000th episode.
Correct!

Show # Episode (by air order)
#1 1st
#195 195th (last game of S1)
#261 196th (first game of S2)
#455 390th (last game of S2)
#456 391st (first game of S3)
#685 620th (last game of S3)
#915 850th (last game of S4)
#1145 1080th (last game of S5)
#1375 1310th (last game of S6)
#1605 1540th (last game of S7)
#1835 1770th (last game of S8)
#2065 2000th (last game of S9)

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by trainman » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:31 pm

Robert K S wrote:
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Show # Episode (by air order)
#1 1st
#195 195th (last game of S1)
#261 196th (first game of S2)
I know you know this, but just in case others reading the thread do not -- there were only 39 weeks of new episodes in Season 1, followed by 13 weeks of reruns, which were given new show numbers (196 to 260).

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by Robert K S » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:16 am

And there were also only 39 weeks of Season 2, but without new show numbers for the summer reruns. Confusing!

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Post by MarkBarrett » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:34 am

I added what I have of 5/16/88 (Seniors SF1): http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6409

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Alex mentioned that Franceline won her QF game (QF5) which as far as I know I unfortunately do not have. Her last name and occupation come from chat time.

One other note from the tourney is 12 players came on stage after F2. The ones not seen: D.J. Smith, Bob Winthrop & Katie O’Callaghan.

Today will conclude my annual heavy dose of input June – August. I need a break after dealing with Ed & Franceline today. September – May I will get at least one S18 game in each month with the expectation I have most if not all of the ones not filled in from Feb. – April 2002.

With Millionaire off the schedule I may direct some of that free time to also try to occasionally add some more tourney games, though no promises.

A rough count has about 150 tourney games still missing. It’s a ways to go though the number is better than it was in May is the way I look at the situation.

Today should also complete the filling of the requests posted in July. For Ivory: 2/19/93 and 7/13/93 were already in the Archive a while ago based on their ID numbers.

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