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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:29 pm
by seaborgium
MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:33 pm
Well, this one took me a while, but it's done, October 17, 1994, George Fries vs. Bazil Facchina vs. Eileen Lynch.
Here's the link: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6361

What's the deal with Eileen's FJ response?

Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:04 pm
by MinnesotaMyron
seaborgium wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:29 pm
MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:33 pm
Well, this one took me a while, but it's done, October 17, 1994, George Fries vs. Bazil Facchina vs. Eileen Lynch.
Here's the link: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6361

What's the deal with Eileen's FJ response?
I always forget the link. Thanks.

The response is as she gave it. Alex commented she might have been confused by the clue.

Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:14 pm
by Bamaman
MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:04 pm
seaborgium wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:29 pm
MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:33 pm
Well, this one took me a while, but it's done, October 17, 1994, George Fries vs. Bazil Facchina vs. Eileen Lynch.
Here's the link: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6361

What's the deal with Eileen's FJ response?
I always forget the link. Thanks.

The response is as she gave it. Alex commented she might have been confused by the clue.
You credited her with a correct response.

Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:31 pm
by MinnesotaMyron
Bamaman wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:14 pm
MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:04 pm
seaborgium wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:29 pm
MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:33 pm
Well, this one took me a while, but it's done, October 17, 1994, George Fries vs. Bazil Facchina vs. Eileen Lynch.
Here's the link: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6361

What's the deal with Eileen's FJ response?
I always forget the link. Thanks.

The response is as she gave it. Alex commented she might have been confused by the clue.
You credited her with a correct response.
More specifically, I neglected to change her response to incorrect, since correct is the default in FJ. I'll fix it. Thanks to both of you.

Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:07 pm
by Robert K S
I don't think my response would've been different from Eileen's.

But as for the response toggle, HOW COULD YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT??? SHEESH!

Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:00 pm
by Bamaman
Probably not a big deal, but I noticed this in relation to togglegate. Eileen’s profile page still lists her as an “X-time champ” with an unspecified amount of winnings. Since she has been defeated and her run complete, I suppose this should be changed?

Sorry for bringing this up here, but I didn’t see a way to make a correction suggestion on a player page.

Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:08 pm
by Robert K S
Thanks. The best way to make a correction suggestion on a player page is to go down to the bottom of the game, click the suggestion link, and make a general suggestion, noting in the comments that the player's total score (or whatever) should be corrected.

Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:41 pm
by cheezguyty
Robert K S wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:08 pm
Thanks. The best way to make a correction suggestion on a player page is to go down to the bottom of the game, click the suggestion link, and make a general suggestion, noting in the comments that the player's total score (or whatever) should be corrected.
I submitted a correction in that manner several weeks ago and Mackenzie Jones's name is still entered incorrectly.

Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:38 pm
by MarkBarrett
cheezguyty wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:41 pm
Robert K S wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:08 pm
Thanks. The best way to make a correction suggestion on a player page is to go down to the bottom of the game, click the suggestion link, and make a general suggestion, noting in the comments that the player's total score (or whatever) should be corrected.
I submitted a correction in that manner several weeks ago and Mackenzie Jones's name is still entered incorrectly.
This sequence?

An anonymous user offered the following correction suggestion on 2020-02-18 21:42:49 about show #8161 [J!] [DJ!] [FJ!]:
The "K" in Mackenzie's name was not capitalized when shown on screen during her introduction (otherwise "ac" would have been lowercase). On the podium display where she wrote her name, though the "K" does stick up quite a bit compared to the surrounding letters, I don't believe that it's meant to be a capital "K". In both examples so far, the "K" isn't nearly as tall the "M", and on Monday in particular the line extending up and to the right only goes halfway as high as the vertical ascender, making it resemble a lowercase "K" more than an uppercase one. Also, the Jeopardy! Twitter account put out a tweet earlier today in which the "K" in her name is not capitalized.

Screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/MGrmbF7

The archivist who rejected the correction suggestion (MarkBarrett) on 2020-02-18 22:00:04 had the following comment:
MacKenzie prefers the upper case "K".

Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:33 am
by MarkBarrett
No joke, I filled in 4/1/02: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=1733

with Ben Studdard, Brendan Roche & Mary Llewllyn whose pics are in the archive

Mary woulda, coulda, shoulda won the game with bigger DD bets and/or solving a fairly gettable FJ! clue.

It's taken nearly two decades, but I finally have forgotten that Tim Burton version of Apes as I also could not recall the stumper in that category.

Hammer: Have fun with MONEY PROBLEMS in the DJ! round.

Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:59 pm
by TenPoundHammer
MarkBarrett wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:33 am
Hammer: Have fun with MONEY PROBLEMS in the DJ! round.
Ran the category.

Didn't get the FJ! though, as the generic-ass names prove my Hawley-Smoot rule once more.

Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:21 pm
by MinnesotaMyron
MarkBarrett wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:33 am
No joke, I filled in 4/1/02: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=1733

with Ben Studdard, Brendan Roche & Mary Llewllyn whose pics are in the archive

Mary woulda, coulda, shoulda won the game with bigger DD bets and/or solving a fairly gettable FJ! clue.

It's taken nearly two decades, but I finally have forgotten that Tim Burton version of Apes as I also could not recall the stumper in that category.

Hammer: Have fun with MONEY PROBLEMS in the DJ! round.
Just to make sure. Mary didn't get credit for "one thousand million" in MONEY PROBLEMS for $400?

Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:30 pm
by MarkBarrett
MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:21 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:33 am
No joke, I filled in 4/1/02: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=1733

with Ben Studdard, Brendan Roche & Mary Llewllyn whose pics are in the archive

Mary woulda, coulda, shoulda won the game with bigger DD bets and/or solving a fairly gettable FJ! clue.

It's taken nearly two decades, but I finally have forgotten that Tim Burton version of Apes as I also could not recall the stumper in that category.

Hammer: Have fun with MONEY PROBLEMS in the DJ! round.
Just to make sure. Mary didn't get credit for "one thousand million" in MONEY PROBLEMS for $400?
It was a neg for Mary. Here is how the CC has it:

Money problems for $400.
What is one thousand million?
No.
What is one billion?
I thought you said, mary,
"one thousand million."
Which is a billion.
I know it's a billion,
but you didn't say, "a billion."

Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:33 pm
by alietr
That's one harsh ruling.

Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:05 pm
by econgator
alietr wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:33 pm
That's one harsh ruling.
It's fair, though. I'm sure you'd agree they wouldn't take, "What is 100 10-millions?", so they can't take any other similar restatement of the problem.

Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:17 pm
by xxaaaxx
econgator wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:05 pm
alietr wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:33 pm
That's one harsh ruling.
It's fair, though. I'm sure you'd agree they wouldn't take, "What is 100 10-millions?", so they can't take any other similar restatement of the problem.
I decided to search the archive for similar rulings, and this popped up:

Show #5719 - Thursday, June 18, 2009
THE BRITISH ARE DIFFERENT, $200
A 1 followed by 9 zeroes is this term in the U.S.; the Brits call that number "a thousand million"

British variants not good enough for the 2002 judges, I guess.

Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:32 pm
by econgator
xxaaaxx wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:17 pm
econgator wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:05 pm
alietr wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:33 pm
That's one harsh ruling.
It's fair, though. I'm sure you'd agree they wouldn't take, "What is 100 10-millions?", so they can't take any other similar restatement of the problem.
I decided to search the archive for similar rulings, and this popped up:

Show #5719 - Thursday, June 18, 2009
THE BRITISH ARE DIFFERENT, $200
A 1 followed by 9 zeroes is this term in the U.S.; the Brits call that number "a thousand million"

British variants not good enough for the 2002 judges, I guess.
From what I've read, they haven't used that terminology since 1974.

https://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2 ... -milliards

Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:55 pm
by Bamaman
Here is an article from when Ben was on the show.

https://news.mercer.edu/020327judgetv/

Turns out he was a college roommate of a three day champ from S17.

http://www.j-archive.com/showplayer.php?player_id=3642

Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:55 am
by MarkBarrett
I filled in what was available of 7/6/87: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6572

Eric Berman defended against (sounded clear cut from the recording's FJ! round) Mary Ellis & Vaughn West.

If another archivist wants at the recently shared Seniors game, have at it. https://archive.org/details/jeopardyjul ... online.com

I want to finish the missing S18 April games this spring.

Andy will work on the other Judy Weightman games.

Re: New old games in the J! Archive

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:46 pm
by MinnesotaMyron
MarkBarrett wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:55 am
If another archivist wants at the recently shared Seniors game, have at it. https://archive.org/details/jeopardyjul ... online.com
I've got a little time this afternoon, so I've started it. We'll see how far I get.

If anyone would like to earn their Junior Woodchuck "Assistant Archivist" badge, the computer I'm on has very poor speakers, & I'd certainly appreciate if anyone could transcribe Alex's closing remarks during FJ!, especially where he introduces the semifinalists.