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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

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MarkBarrett wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 12:10 pm
I took my best guess for the challenger names and I welcome second opinions: https://archive.org/details/jeopardy-september-8-1987

You have to go to the chats.
Looks like you got Tom Facelle right: https://www.goodsamhosp.org/physicians/ ... omas-l-288 (The Air Force bit is the strongest connection, as a picture from over 30 years later is a little tougher to be sure of.)
Brenda's last name is Berstler; she has published books, and the author information mentions her being a Jeopardy champion. https://www.amazon.com/Home-Plate-Culin ... 0979680204

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I believe it's WJLA in DC that edited out the opening intros of every J! episode from Season 4 to what Season 7 or something.

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seaborgium wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 7:11 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 12:10 pm
I took my best guess for the challenger names and I welcome second opinions: https://archive.org/details/jeopardy-september-8-1987

You have to go to the chats.
Looks like you got Tom Facelle right: https://www.goodsamhosp.org/physicians/ ... omas-l-288 (The Air Force bit is the strongest connection, as a picture from over 30 years later is a little tougher to be sure of.)
Brenda's last name is Berstler; she has published books, and the author information mentions her being a Jeopardy champion. https://www.amazon.com/Home-Plate-Culin ... 0979680204
Change made for Berstler. Thanks.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

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Wed May 06, 2020 6:47 pm
I added 9/9/87: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6633

Pics of Gail Waterman & Steve Burnside:
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Archivist or not, anyone with free time want to tackle a scoring puzzle? After the J! round everything was fine with the scores. After the DJ! round the archive had Brenda with $2800 while the show had her with $3000. I tried to find out where to make up the $200 and failed to spot what I did wrong.

When the FJ! round began Brenda now had $3400 to further confuse me and Alex gave no explanation for the scoring change. I welcome any help to get the numbers to work. As is, Brenda's archive 2-day total is $600 shy from the displayed $14,200.

Help, please. I figure I must have misclicked or misheard something. There is no reason to accept Mexico for the XYZ affair, is there?

https://archive.org/details/jeopardy-september-9-1987
When Brenda negged on $800 in SMOKING her score dropped from $700 to $-100, but by the time the $1,000 clue was in play, her score appeared as $100 instead, and she ended up with $1,100 after getting panatella. No idea why she had $400 more entering FJ, but it seems like she wagered based on having $3,000, since $300 would be the largest wager in whole Benjamins to keep Steve at $1,300 locked out.

Adding to the confusion, when Alex told her her FJ response was correct, he said, "You're gonna add to that thirteen hundred, how much?"

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

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Hello,

I might have spotted an erratum in an old game, but the game is only half complete in the archive so I can't use the regular form to submit a correction suggestion. I understand it's ok to post my suggestion here.

The game is number 317:

http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=4256

And the clue is number 16, for $300:

Would-be assassin of President Ford who said, "I'm sorry I missed"

The answer in the archive is (Lynette) "Squeaky" Fromme.

Lynette Fromme is indeed one of the two women who tried to assassinate President Ford.

However, from my research, it was actually the other would-be female assassin, Sara Jane Moore, who said she was sorry she missed President Ford. There was even a book written about Sara Jane Moore called "I'm sorry I missed, Mr. President"

I hope I'm right and haven't wasted anyone's time. Cheers!

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JeuParti wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 12:16 am
I might have spotted an erratum in an old game, but the game is only half complete in the archive so I can't use the regular form to submit a correction suggestion.
Even without the "suggest correction" link at the bottom of the page, you can click the number in the upper right corner of the box with the offending clue to be taken to the correction suggestion page.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

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seaborgium wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 8:02 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 6:47 pm
I added 9/9/87: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6633

Pics of Gail Waterman & Steve Burnside:
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Archivist or not, anyone with free time want to tackle a scoring puzzle? After the J! round everything was fine with the scores. After the DJ! round the archive had Brenda with $2800 while the show had her with $3000. I tried to find out where to make up the $200 and failed to spot what I did wrong.

When the FJ! round began Brenda now had $3400 to further confuse me and Alex gave no explanation for the scoring change. I welcome any help to get the numbers to work. As is, Brenda's archive 2-day total is $600 shy from the displayed $14,200.

Help, please. I figure I must have misclicked or misheard something. There is no reason to accept Mexico for the XYZ affair, is there?

https://archive.org/details/jeopardy-september-9-1987
When Brenda negged on $800 in SMOKING her score dropped from $700 to $-100, but by the time the $1,000 clue was in play, her score appeared as $100 instead, and she ended up with $1,100 after getting panatella. No idea why she had $400 more entering FJ, but it seems like she wagered based on having $3,000, since $300 would be the largest wager in whole Benjamins to keep Steve at $1,300 locked out.

Adding to the confusion, when Alex told her her FJ response was correct, he said, "You're gonna add to that thirteen hundred, how much?"
Thanks for tracking down the trouble spots. I've sent an email to RKS for his advice on how to handle it.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

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I added 9/14/87: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6634

Player pics of challengers Walt Meyers (Myers) & Pam Crowley (Crawley):
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Check out the NUMBER, PLEASE category. What should have been an easy $1500 for the players combined did not go that way.

For the FJ! clue I went the 3rd way Alex mentioned.

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I've been picking at this game for about a month now, a handful of clues at a time, but I've finally finished Thursday, January 3, 2002, Joel Zuercher vs. Deborah Wood vs. Mark Lee.

http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=1139

In fact, I've spent so much time on this game, I can't remember what clues I wanted to highlight.

I did look up "pet writer" Deborah Wood's Amazon page. It's here:

https://www.amazon.com/Deborah-Wood/e/B001HD06KI .

Alex was sure having a good time reading those Double Jeopardy clue names.

TAKE A GANDER AT UGANDA for $2000 is a Thing Worth Knowing. I remember this clue from when it originally broadcast; it's where I learned about this particular event.
Over 100 hostages were freed by Israeli commandos from this Ugandan airport in 1976
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Entebbe
Clue of the game will be PASS ME A MINT for $1600, a food clue I missed.
The 3 main types of this are the American, the Mexican & the Italian; the elephant type isn't a true one
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What is garlic?
Per the Tale of the Tape, the players in this game were very evenly matched. They each had a Daily Double correct, they each had 2 misses, and they each got correct approximately the same number of clues. Mark and Deborah even ended up tied. But with Mark getting FJ by himself, and the other 2 players going all-in on incorrect guesses, the final score has Mark in a blow-out.

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And then there was one. The final Season 18 game is in the chamber, ready to be started. I'll enter the first clue next, like I always do after I finish these writeups, and we'll see just how long it takes to be done. Cheers and stay safe, y'all.

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MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 3:20 pm
TAKE A GANDER AT UGANDA for $2000 is a Thing Worth Knowing. I remember this clue from when it originally broadcast; it's where I learned about this particular event.
Over 100 hostages were freed by Israeli commandos from this Ugandan airport in 1976
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Entebbe
I pretty much always hear "Raid on ..." in my head whenever this name comes up.

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econgator wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 3:56 pm
MinnesotaMyron wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 3:20 pm
TAKE A GANDER AT UGANDA for $2000 is a Thing Worth Knowing. I remember this clue from when it originally broadcast; it's where I learned about this particular event.
Over 100 hostages were freed by Israeli commandos from this Ugandan airport in 1976
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Entebbe
I pretty much always hear "Raid on ..." in my head whenever this name comes up.
And an interesting factoid about the raid is that the only Israeli soldier killed was Yonatan Netanyahu, Benjamin Netanyahu's (and future and current Israeli Prime Minister) brother.

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I added 9/15/87: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6635

Player pics of challengers Stuart Cleland & Gerry Boone:
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I took my best guesses with the challenger names and here is the video for those on the sleuth squad.
https://archive.org/details/jeopardy-september-15-1987

15W :twisted:

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MarkBarrett wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 11:49 am
I added 9/15/87: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6635

Player pics of challengers Stuart Cleland & Gerry Boone:
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I took my best guesses with the challenger names and here is the video for those on the sleuth squad.
https://archive.org/details/jeopardy-september-15-1987

15W :twisted:
Pretty sure that Garry Boone, not Gerry.

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econgator wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 12:11 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 11:49 am
I added 9/15/87: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6635

Player pics of challengers Stuart Cleland & Gerry Boone:
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I took my best guesses with the challenger names and here is the video for those on the sleuth squad.
https://archive.org/details/jeopardy-september-15-1987

15W :twisted:
Pretty sure that Garry Boone, not Gerry.
Change made, thanks. Cursive should be outlawed for contestant sign-ins.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

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MarkBarrett wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 11:49 am
I added 9/15/87: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6635
Remarkably, "The Sensuous Woman" and its author are not new to the J-Canon (literally the "J" Canon), although in this case the clue does not also include the "Dr. J" hint. The first instance goes all the way back to the first week of the show! You probably don't need this one for your flashcards, though.

Ob Trivia: Which science fiction author published the parody "The Sensuous Dirty Old Man" under the pseudonym Dr. "A"?
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Isaac Asimov

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Tomorrow morning I will input 9/16/87: https://archive.org/details/jeopardy-september-16-1987

For the challengers I'm hearing:
Sheryl Hurst Kramer with possible variations Hirst, Hearst, Cramer, etc. (NYC calligrapher)
Tom Bendicki, Bendicky, Bendickie, Bendicchi, etc. (copy editor for newspaper originally from Cleveland)

Help, please.

Edited to add: Please post if you know if Tom won more than just the first game. If so, days and total.

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MarkBarrett wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 6:04 pm
Tomorrow morning I will input 9/16/87: https://archive.org/details/jeopardy-september-16-1987

For the challengers I'm hearing:
Sheryl Hurst Kramer with possible variations Hirst, Hearst, Cramer, etc. (NYC calligrapher)
Tom Bendicki, Bendicky, Bendickie, Bendicchi, etc. (copy editor for newspaper originally from Cleveland)

Help, please.

Edited to add: Please post if you know if Tom won more than just the first game. If so, days and total.
It is Sheryl Hirsch-Kramer. I googled Sheryl Kramer and calligraphy and found some stuff on her.

Here is a book she wrote.

https://www.amazon.com/Nine-Roses-Chels ... 1412047196
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MarkBarrett wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 6:04 pm
Tomorrow morning I will input 9/16/87: https://archive.org/details/jeopardy-september-16-1987

For the challengers I'm hearing:
Sheryl Hurst Kramer with possible variations Hirst, Hearst, Cramer, etc. (NYC calligrapher)
Tom Bendicki, Bendicky, Bendickie, Bendicchi, etc. (copy editor for newspaper originally from Cleveland)

Help, please.

Edited to add: Please post if you know if Tom won more than just the first game. If so, days and total.
I can't be sure I've turned up Tom himself, but the surname spelling that has gotten me the most satisfactory results thus far is Bendycki.

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

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seaborgium wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 7:30 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 6:04 pm
Tomorrow morning I will input 9/16/87: https://archive.org/details/jeopardy-september-16-1987

For the challengers I'm hearing:
Sheryl Hurst Kramer with possible variations Hirst, Hearst, Cramer, etc. (NYC calligrapher)
Tom Bendicki, Bendicky, Bendickie, Bendicchi, etc. (copy editor for newspaper originally from Cleveland)

Help, please.

Edited to add: Please post if you know if Tom won more than just the first game. If so, days and total.
I can't be sure I've turned up Tom himself, but the surname spelling that has gotten me the most satisfactory results thus far is Bendycki.
Yep. Newspaper union guy in Ohio seems to fit:

https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/322540786/

(See the OCR.)

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Re: New old games in the J! Archive

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I added 9/16/87: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6636

Player pics of challengers Tom Bendycki & Sheryl Hirsch-Kramer:
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Check out the $100 clues across the board.

Tom put Ted in good shape after the DD3 miss, but Ted could not convert the FJ! clue, costing him the 5x distinction and ToC. That's what Ted gets for betting $901 instead of $900.

Thank you all three gentlemen for the help on the challenger last names.

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