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I added 7/16/91: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6780

Player pics of Henry Wold, Val Sullivan and Mary Webster were posted recently.

Only one TS clue in close to perfect game when throwing out the missed DDs that only one had a crack at.

What was shown for DD1:
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Can't instasolve a FJ! clue much faster than that one while a little tougher for those that don't recognize her name and have to connect the year/place dots.

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I added 7/17/91: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6781

Player pics of Kay Paul, Nancy Pearson and Bob Olsen have been posted recently.

Bob cruised his way to the finals in his QF and SF games. What a huge differential in the leading score to the trailers for a SF match.

Easy FJ! clue in 2020 and I was happy to see I also got it in 1991.

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I remember this game thanks to you adding Alex’s comments about the women having fun.

Minor nitpick...looks like you kicked Al out of the union on DD3.

Thanks for getting this in, what tournament are you tackling next after you finish this one?

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Bamaman wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:46 pm
I remember this game thanks to you adding Alex’s comments about the women having fun.

Minor nitpick...looks like you kicked Al out of the union on DD3.

Thanks for getting this in, what tournament are you tackling next after you finish this one?
DD3 fixed, thanks. 1992 Seniors is next.

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MarkBarrett wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:54 pm
I added 7/15/91: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6779
No corrections.

Just seeing COLE PORTER LYRICS made me happy. That man was a genius both as a lyricist and as a composer. What he does in combining the two is just astounding. E.g. from "I Get a Kick Out of You":

I get no kick from cocaine.
I'm sure that if
I took even one sniff
It would bore me terrif-
ically too
But I get a kick out of you

I broke it up into those lines to emphasize that genius rhyme between if and sniff and the second syllable of terrifically. When a singer holds on to that "rif" for just the right amount of time before letting the song continue, it's just magic.

Our Seniors did not disappoint in this category, scooping all of them up. I missed one.
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"From This Moment On". It's from Kiss Me Kate. Not my favorite Porter and offhand I only recall "It's Too Darn Hot", "Wunderbar", and "Brush Up Your Shakespeare". As a whole Kiss Me Kate always seemed overdone and stuffy to me. The music lacked Porter's usual lightness and, perhaps because of that, the lyrics didn't seem to come spontaneously off the singers' tongues as though they'd just that moment thought of these incredibly witty turns of phrase. Just listened to "From This Moment On" on YouTube and... yeah. My opinion stands.

For "I Get a Kick Out of You" (which wasn't in any of the clues), hear it sung to perfection by Eileen Rodgers here:

https://youtu.be/El5xM2SFmCE
Ran ANAGRAMMED NAMES. They kept the category manageable with three sets of three letter names and two sets of four. Once you have one name, it's easy enough to mentally run through possible anagrams and settle on the other.

Instaget FJ. Would've gotten it that quickly back then as well.

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Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:51 pm
Ran ANAGRAMMED NAMES. They kept the category manageable with three sets of three letter names and two sets of four.
Interesting letter counting on
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Oprah/Harpo.
MarkBarrett wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:32 pm
I added 7/17/91: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6781
I assume it was you who omitted the last name of the murdered Mormon and not the contestant.

Anyone else who reads this game: did you clam on
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Dutch
in DJ after
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Murdered Mormon last name added. Thanks Sg.

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seaborgium wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:55 pm
opusthepenguin wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:51 pm
Ran ANAGRAMMED NAMES. They kept the category manageable with three sets of three letter names and two sets of four.
Interesting letter counting on
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Oprah/Harpo.
They seemed shorter in my head.

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I added 7/18/91: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6782

Player pics of Bob Olsen, Lou Pryor and Mary Webster have been posted previously.

That completes the 1991 Seniors Tournament as F2 was already in the archive.

A 2020 miss on the FJ! clue while my scoresheet indicates I got it right 29 years ago.

It was almost like the tournament had two winners with Bob also exceeding the winner's guarantee though only Lou got the bonus invite to return of course.

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Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:48 am
It was almost like the tournament had two winners with Bob also exceeding the winner's guarantee though only Lou got the bonus invite to return of course.
A similar situation happened in the 1996 Teen Tournament (which was decided by a tiebreaker clue).

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^Also the Feb. 1995 Teen Tournament as well: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=5323

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Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:48 am
I added 7/18/91: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6782
Typo in the WORLD GEOGRAPHY $400 clue: the city is Ceuta, not Cueta. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceuta Did Alex mispronounce it as "kweta"?

edit: the river in the $600 response is misspelled. It's
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Elbe.
MIDDLE NAMES for $400: Brown should be capitalized in the clue.
Final J!: "was" should be "has."

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seaborgium wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:16 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:48 am
I added 7/18/91: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6782
Typo in the WORLD GEOGRAPHY $400 clue: the city is Ceuta, not Cueta. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceuta Did Alex mispronounce it as "kweta"?

edit: the river in the $600 response is misspelled. It's
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Elbe.
MIDDLE NAMES for $400: Brown should be capitalized in the clue.
Final J!: "was" should be "has."
All cleaned up, thanks. Alex said Ceuta with 3 syllables: SAI-you-tah or SAY-you-tuh is in the ballpark.

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MarkBarrett wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:32 pm
I added 7/17/91: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6781
Spelling test on J15 HANDICRAFTS $100: French for "chewed paper", it's the art of figure-molding using shredded paper & glue
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papier-mâché. Great job on the second word, Mark. Just needs an i in the first and hyphen in between. :D
I wonder if my response would have netted me a reversal for J30 HANDICRAFTS $500: Usually sold in slabs, it's the preferred wax for candlemaking
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Paraffin. I said beeswax. The internet tells me beeswax does get sold in slabs, though I can't vouch for the "usually". And "preferred" can have various meanings, but web sources tell me beeswax produces a superior candle--brighter, warmer, longer lasting, virtually drip and soot free. Sounds preferable to me.
I wonder if my response would fly for DD3 (DJ29) LABOR UNIONS: This union's TV commercials ask you to "Look for the Union Label"
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I said ILGWU, pronounced as an acronym. I could also pronounce each letter individually. But I'm not sure I could have expanded it correctly. In particular, the L would have given me trouble. But I remember the commercials and the song.
I got FJ and I suppose it was to be expected that all three of our Seniors did as well, though only one of them spelled the name correctly.

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seaborgium wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:16 pm

Typo in the WORLD GEOGRAPHY $400 clue: the city is Ceuta, not Cueta. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceuta Did Alex mispronounce it as "kweta"?
We were in Ceuta exactly a year ago (back when Americans could freely roam the world). It was quite an interesting experience going from there to Morocco since Ceuta is, for refugee seekers, part of the EU. My favorite part of the boat ride from Spain was looking in one direction and seeing Europe (and the Rock of Gibraltar) on the left and then Africa on the right, which you may barely make out in this picture I took.


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Great pic alietr and merci, Opus, for the catch on the "chewed paper".

I added 7/7/92: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6783

Player pics of Hugh Mulvaney, Carolyn Meek & Jim Baehler:
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Triple solve on the FJ! clue for the players and they all moved on to the semis. I missed it in 1992 though got it this time now that it's no longer current events.

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I added 7/9/92: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6784

Player pics of Paula Reach, Morty Goldman & Hansford Epes:
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That was a standout debut by Hansford. Everything about him was intimidating from name, occupation, appearance, voice and 12 years experience coaching college quiz bowl. In some ways it was like seeing Mr. Hand on J!

Morty was on J! in 1966 and won "a few hundred bucks and the World Book Encyclopedia".

The FJ! clue is a miss for me no matter what year I see it.

A couple of funny moments with Paula calling a DD wager for more than allowed, Morty responding without ringing in, and Alex telling Hansford there was no choice left but CHESTER A. ARTHUR.

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I added 7/9/92: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6784
You'll probably want to edit the FJ category ("LITERATRUE").

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seaborgium wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:50 am
MarkBarrett wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:38 am
I added 7/9/92: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6784
You'll probably want to edit the FJ category ("LITERATRUE").
Now I want that to be an actual category. Literatrue in the Jeopardy! round and Literafalse in the Double Jeopardy! round.

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MarkBarrett wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:59 pm
I added 7/7/92: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6783
Even when they don't have a Bible category they manage to stick in a Bible clue. J30 GUINNESS RECORDS $500: In the Bible, the shortest one of these is the 117th; it has only 2 verses
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Psalms. Surprising that they selected that for the hardest spot. Given a basic core of Bible knowledge WECIB? It's also kind of funny to list it as a Guinness record. It's not like anyone's going to break it.
Couple of geezer categories just kicked my butt. SONG LYRICS in J and FILMS OF THE '40s in DJ. Only got the top row clue in each. All others divided into "didn't know" and "never heard of".

I was close on DJ15 BUSINESS & INDUSTRY $1000: In the early 1980s it surpassed BankAmerica in assets to become the largest banking corp. in the U.S.
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Citicorp. I said Citibank. Alex probably had that response on his card. With a big ole DNA next to it.
No chance on FJ today. Hard to guess how I would have done back then. No forehead slap on reveal, that's for sure. My best guess was...
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"Tank Man" at Tiananmen Square. But I knew I was a couple of years two late. He definitely fit the "instant witnesses to history" part of the clue though.

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