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FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
BRITISH HISTORY

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
From the Greek for "alone", it was nixed by Parliament in 1649 after being deemed "unnecessary, burdensome & dangerous"

Megan Wachspress: 10000-9599=401 (5x = $52,002)
Ketty Pan: 200-0=200
Tory Leviton: 10200-10000=200

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monarchy (Megan – the crown) (Ketty – What is?) (Tory – solo)

Daily Doubles
Ketty: 1200+1200
Ketty: 12200-8800
Ketty: 1800-2000

Coryats
Megan: 10000
Ketty: 10400
Tory: 10200

Combined: 30,600

Scores at the end of the Jeopardy! Round
Megan: 3600
Ketty: 3000
Tory: 4200
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This game is a win for the Intermediate Form of Shore's Conjecture. The second-place player bet "small." --Bob
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Lots of negs and Megan had enough of them to narrowly keep herself from the lead for the FJ! round. Second was the place to be on a triple miss FJ! clue.

My precalls were Harold/William Hastings & King John/Runnymede.

The FJ! clue is not the kind of thing I can solve and I matched Ketty with no response.

Ketty went big on the DDs and went home. If she solves DD2 then her lead could have been big enough to win unless she went hog wild on DD3 as well.

Megan's run has got her into the ToC and over 38 seasons such 5-game streaks have happened before with a champ managing to get it done with less than stellar numbers. Last Tuesday I never would have predicted I would end up needing to double label the game in archive.
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Those first 5 words of FJ, though not entirely incorrect, served to confuse and let doubt creep in my mind.

Luckily I just stuck with my knowledge of mid 17th Century Britain and got the solve.
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Judges: Would Megan's answer have been acceptable if the clue didn't have "from the Greek for alone"?
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Another week begins: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7392

I'll add the tape date when it surfaces.
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Does Megan hold the lowest 5-day total ever, adjusted to modern values? The only people I could find who won less were before the doubled values, and even then, the lowest I could find was $26,180, which doubles to $52,360.

Otherwise, props to Ketty going all or nothing on essentially a multiple choice question with nine possible answers. I would have done the same. Shame it didn't work out.
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JeopardyFan#9821 wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:27 pm Does Megan hold the lowest 5-day total ever, adjusted to modern values? The only people I could find who won less were before the doubled values, and even then, the lowest I could find was $26,180, which doubles to $52,360.

Otherwise, props to Ketty going all or nothing on essentially a multiple choice question with nine possible answers. I would have done the same. Shame it didn't work out.
From the Andy's Thoughts section of The Jeopardy Fan:

Megan has broken a record, previously set by Donald Burgo in April 1986, for the lowest 5-day total in the history of the syndicated version of the show. (Burgo won $26,180 when the dollar values were half of what they are today; that translates to $52,360—$358 more than what Megan has won.)
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26/1, 23/1 good boards today
trash:
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eustachian, Smithfield
more trash:
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electron microscope, Liaisons Dangereuses (gave French & English titles), melancholy
betting: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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The Greek almost misdirected mesolitary confinement, knew British history to get the correct response
Think Tory shoulda tanked DJ30 ;)
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ACW wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:16 pm Judges: Would Megan's answer have been acceptable if the clue didn't have "from the Greek for alone"?
I’d say no, since “crown” is too ambiguous, and could refer to the institution or the physical object.

I didn’t like the use of “nixed”, which I guess was used to make the clue more difficult.
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Leander wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:09 pm I didn’t like the use of “nixed”, which I guess was used to make the clue more difficult.
Yeeeeeah. I was thinking something Parliament considered putting in to replace the monarchy but decided against.
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AGAIN!
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Leander wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:09 pm
I didn’t like the use of “nixed”, which I guess was used to make the clue more difficult.
Were this the ToC, it would have been "ixnayed".

ETA: I'd say "abolished" is the word they were most consciously avoiding.
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Leander wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:09 pm
ACW wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:16 pm Judges: Would Megan's answer have been acceptable if the clue didn't have "from the Greek for alone"?
I’d say no, since “crown” is too ambiguous, and could refer to the institution or the physical object.

I didn’t like the use of “nixed”, which I guess was used to make the clue more difficult.
that changes the question and words such as throne, king, and others would be correct.
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58/59 R (Couldn't get Only Murders In the Building(But saw a promo later in the day. :roll: ) and Emily In Paris.)
DD: 3/3
FJ: :mrgreen:
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MarkBarrett wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:02 pm Another week begins: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7392

I'll add the tape date when it surfaces.
Mark, you may want to note on Ketty's profile page that she appeared on The Chase with Daniel Donohue and me on 1/28/2021. (Unfortunately, Ketty was caught in her individual round by James Holzhauer, and did not get to participate in the Final Chase.)
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CyrusChan wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:21 pm
Leander wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:09 pm
ACW wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:16 pm Judges: Would Megan's answer have been acceptable if the clue didn't have "from the Greek for alone"?
I’d say no, since “crown” is too ambiguous, and could refer to the institution or the physical object.

I didn’t like the use of “nixed”, which I guess was used to make the clue more difficult.
that changes the question and words such as throne, king, and others would be correct.
Yes, I think the clue was intended in part as an exercise in etymology, so they wouldn't have phrased in a way that allowed those alternatives.

I do agree that "nixed" has a casual ring suggestive of something less weighty, so to avoid that and the possibly too-leading "abolished", I might have made the category "From the Greek", and asked 'From the Greek for "alone", it was, in 1649, declared by Parliament to be "unnecessary, burdensome & dangerous"'.
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