As far as I'm concerned, you can move pretty far east from Ohio before you leave the Midwest...mahatma wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 6:10 pmOhio is just Indiana’s (slightly) cooler big brother.Robert K S wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:48 pmYou may have to win that fight with the Census Bureau before you take it up with the J! writers.
If it’s not the Midwest, I don’t know what it is. It ain’t the Northeast, it ain’t the Southeast, and we don’t have an ‘East Central US’.
Monday, July 11, 2022 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)
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Mayim was right to call Porgy and Bess the first great American opera. She would have been equally right to call it the last. Sorry, Philip Glass fans, but that's the truth.
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Including only those that have been seen and revived on Broadway certainly narrows the choice. But Sweeney Todd has often been called an opera and is performed by opera companies.opusthepenguin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:43 pm Mayim was right to call Porgy and Bess the first great American opera. She would have been equally right to call it the last. Sorry, Philip Glass fans, but that's the truth.
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brosopusthepenguin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:41 pmThe only phrase I could think of was something I learned on Reddit. It would not have fit the category (FAMILIAL PHRASES) and would have edited out before air. A simple bleep would not have been enough if a contestant had responded with "What is chicks before {#`%${%&`+'${`%&NO CARRIERBigDaddyMatty wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:27 pm I'm glad they decided to use "sisters before misters" rather than the phrase's male counterpart.
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LOL, just LOL at South Pacific being the official opera of South Carolina. Is the saguaro also its state flower? Is the nene its state bird?
Heart of Dixie is the former license plate motto of Alabama. It's been gone for over 20 years now. Alabamans have a choice between "Sweet Home" (for rockers) and "Stars Fell On" (for those who prefer traditional pop.)
And Ohio is in the Midwest. (That TOM was to get contestants away from North Carolina. )
Heart of Dixie is the former license plate motto of Alabama. It's been gone for over 20 years now. Alabamans have a choice between "Sweet Home" (for rockers) and "Stars Fell On" (for those who prefer traditional pop.)
And Ohio is in the Midwest. (That TOM was to get contestants away from North Carolina. )
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Yeah... I'd call that a near miss. I'm not seeing any recordings featuring conductors of the rank of Lorin Maazel or Simon Rattle or Nikolaus Harnoncourt. I'm not seeing any performers of the caliber of Leontyne Price. It's good for what it is, maybe even great. But it's not part of the classical/opera repertoire and I don't see that changing.davey wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:51 pmIncluding only those that have been seen and revived on Broadway certainly narrows the choice. But Sweeney Todd has often been called an opera and is performed by opera companies.opusthepenguin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:43 pm Mayim was right to call Porgy and Bess the first great American opera. She would have been equally right to call it the last. Sorry, Philip Glass fans, but that's the truth.
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What about John Adams? Nixon in China and The Death of Klinghoffer are both excellent IMO.opusthepenguin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:43 pm Mayim was right to call Porgy and Bess the first great American opera. She would have been equally right to call it the last. Sorry, Philip Glass fans, but that's the truth.
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I thought of "brothers before others" while watching, though I'm not sure I'd ever heard any of these. Nieces before feces. Nephews before refuse.CyrusChan wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:58 pmbrosopusthepenguin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:41 pmThe only phrase I could think of was something I learned on Reddit. It would not have fit the category (FAMILIAL PHRASES) and would have edited out before air. A simple bleep would not have been enough if a contestant had responded with "What is chicks before {#`%${%&`+'${`%&NO CARRIERBigDaddyMatty wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:27 pm I'm glad they decided to use "sisters before misters" rather than the phrase's male counterpart.
"Old Northwest" is a bit more exclusive than Midwest, if that's the problem. It doesn't seem so popular these days but I guess they say "Pacific" Northwest to make clear they aren't talking about Ohio.
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The writers really should have anticipated the possibility of somebody misreading the clue and answering the phrase beginning with "bros".
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Another good set of boards for me. For FJ, I fixated on the word opera, and could only think of one opera set in the South.
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Good start to the week with an instaget FJ. Opera was definitely the keyword here.
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Never learn things from Reddit. Ever.opusthepenguin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:41 pmThe only phrase I could think of was something I learned on Reddit. It would not have fit the category (FAMILIAL PHRASES) and would have edited out before air. A simple bleep would not have been enough if a contestant had responded with "What is chicks before {#`%${%&`+'${`%&NO CARRIERBigDaddyMatty wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:27 pm I'm glad they decided to use "sisters before misters" rather than the phrase's male counterpart.
As others have now suggested, the phrase to which I was alluding is "bros before hoes," which AFAIK both precedes and is much more prominent in the cultural lexicon than "sisters before misters."
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Re: Monday, July 11, 2022 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)
Costello: I can't remember the name of the returning champion in today's game. What was it? NO SPOILERS.
Abbott: Robert Won.
Costello: I said NO SPOILERS. Now what was the name of the returning champion?
Abbott: Robert Won.
Costello: Thanks for spoiling it for me. So did Robert remain champion?
Abbott: No. Robert Won lost.
Costello: You're not making sense. How can Robert win and lose at the same time?
Abbott: Robert Won didn't win.
Costello: So he won but he didn't win.
Abbott: Yes.
Costello: I'm gonna be so glad when Ken Jennings comes back to clean up this mess.
Abbott: Robert Won.
Costello: I said NO SPOILERS. Now what was the name of the returning champion?
Abbott: Robert Won.
Costello: Thanks for spoiling it for me. So did Robert remain champion?
Abbott: No. Robert Won lost.
Costello: You're not making sense. How can Robert win and lose at the same time?
Abbott: Robert Won didn't win.
Costello: So he won but he didn't win.
Abbott: Yes.
Costello: I'm gonna be so glad when Ken Jennings comes back to clean up this mess.
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In the same vein, the University of Michigan's fight song ends with "The champions of the west"Robert K S wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:48 pmYou may have to win that fight with the Census Bureau before you take it up with the J! writers.
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Ohio State is in the Big Ten, and therefore, Ohio is in the Midwest.Robert K S wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:48 pmYou may have to win that fight with the Census Bureau before you take it up with the J! writers.
(Yes, I realize this means that California will be located in the Midwest within the next couple of years.)
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Many people would agree. I don't see either one entering the standard repertoire but I could be wrong.Woof wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:16 pmWhat about John Adams? Nixon in China and The Death of Klinghoffer are both excellent IMO.opusthepenguin wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:43 pm Mayim was right to call Porgy and Bess the first great American opera. She would have been equally right to call it the last. Sorry, Philip Glass fans, but that's the truth.
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Exactly what I thought. I knew they couldn't be going for that, but I wouldn't think it'd be too weird for a nervous contestant to say it.
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Agreed. Pittsburgh is insubstantially culturally distinct from Cleveland. If Northeast Ohio is Midwest, so is Western Pennsylvania.
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It would be tempting to equate the Midwest with the northerly half of the Mississippi River watershed. Since the term itself is more cultural than geographic, though, it seems more appropriate to group Ohio with the other Great Lake states and treat them as distinct from the Plains states (IA, KS, NE, SD, ND and the Eastern portions of CO, WY and MT). Whether one chooses to lump both together in a Midwest designation is arguable.Robert K S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:51 amAgreed. Pittsburgh is insubstantially culturally distinct from Cleveland. If Northeast Ohio is Midwest, so is Western Pennsylvania.