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Wildcard Cutoffs redux

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The originator of this topic, KellyJ!, did a great job compiling the data for wild card cutoffs for all the tournaments in the Trebek era. Unfortunately, he has not posted or even logged on here since November 2011, so I don't know if he has any intention of returning or updating his information.

With this season's Teen Tournament coming up soon, I have decided to revive this topic with updated averages for the cutoffs for all the tournaments through the Battle of the Decades and will update them again when the next tournament is held.

I have a separate post for each type of tournament.

TOC
Seniors
College
Teen
Teachers
Super-TOCs

A Super-TOC is one like the Million Dollar Masters or the BOTD and will add any future tournaments of this type when and if they occur.

I have copied a lot of the data from the original thread but I have gone through to verify the information that he provided. A number of the early tournaments are unarchived and he has gotten the data from Mark Barrett. (I apologize if the data came from someone else, but I do think that is the case).

I have created placeholders where I will be inputting the data over the next several posts.
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Tournament of Champions

The 1985-1996 TOCs were held in November. The TOCs originally had everyone from one season competing for a seasonal tournament.

1985 TOC (Season 2)-Won by Jerry Frankel
$3,300 (Jerry Frankel)-FJ wrong, players 2/3
$2,100 (Paula Tupper)-FJ wrong, players 2/3

1986 TOC (Season 3)-Won by Chuck Forrest
$5,000 (Lionel Goldbart)-FJ wrong, players 0/3
$3,900 (Eric Schoeck)-FJ right, players 2/3

1987 TOC (Season 4)-Won by Dave Traini
$8,100 (Roger Storm)-FJ right, players 2/3
$6,000 (Zeke Sevilla, Jr.)-FJ wrong, players 1/3

1988 TOC (Season 5)-Won by Mark Lowenthal
$10,400 (Kate Waits)-FJ right, players 3/3
$8,000 (Leah Greenwald)-FJ right, players 2/3

1989 TOC (Season 6)-Won by Tom Cubbage
$1,399 (Ouida Rellstab)-FJ wrong, players 1/3
$1,000 (Jeff Richmond)-FJ wrong, players 1/3

1990 TOC (Season 7)-Won by Bob Blake
$4,200 (Andrew Bernknopf)-FJ right, players 3/3
$3,000 (Dan Katz)-FJ wrong, players 0/3

1991 TOC (Season 8)-Won by Jim Scott
$9,550 (Jim Scott)
$9,200 (Sara Cox)

1992 TOC (Season 9)-Won by Leszek Pawlowicz
$7,600 (Leonard Schmidt)-FJ wrong, players 0/3
$4,799 (Phil Yellman)-FJ wrong, players 2/3

1993 TOC (Season 10)-Won by Tom Nosek
$10,400 (Leslie Miller)-FJ right, players 2/3
$8,800 (David Tiemann)-FJ right, players 2/3

Lelie and David were in the same game

Beginning in 1994, players who played in the early part of a season played in that season's TOC, rather than waiting for the next season.

1994 TOC (Season 11)-Won by Rachael Schwartz
$8,100 (Jeff Stewart)-FJ wrong, players 1/3
$4,000 (Fred Frank)-FJ wrong, players 1/3

Jeff and Fred were in the same game

1995 TOC (Season 12)-Won by Ryan Holznagel
$7,750 (Gordon Wean)-FJ right, players 2/3
$6,800 (Jim Morgan)-FJ right, players 3/3

1996 TOC (Season 13)-Won by Mike Dupee
$7,901 (Bob Scarpone)-FJ right, players 2/3
$1,800 (Held by Brad Plovin and Lucien Schmit. Brad had $5,900 pre-FJ to Lucien's $5,800)-FJ wrong, players 2/3

1998 TOC (Season 14)-Held in February-Won by Dan Melia
$3,200 (Bob Harris)-FJ right, players 2/3
$2,300 (Craig Barker)-FJ wrong, players 1/3

1999 TOC (Season 15)-Held in February-Won by David Abbott
$5,599 (J.J. Todor)-FJ wrong, players 2/3
$5,400 (Carolyn White)-FJ right, players 2/3

J.J. and Carolyn were in the same game

2000 TOC (Season 16)-Held in May-Won by Robin Carroll
$4,800 (Robin Carroll)-FJ wrong, players 0/3
$2,400 (Darlene Lieblich)-FJ right, players 3/3

No TOC was held in Season 17 (2000-2001)

2001 TOC (Season 18)-Held in October-Won by Brad Rutter
$2,000 (Larry Cloud)-FJ wrong, players 0/3
$1,599 (Michelle Clum)-FJ wrong, players0/3

Shortly after the 2001 TOC, the clue values were doubled.

Pre-doubling averages (16 Tournaments)
Average lowest to get a wild card: $6,206
Average highest not to get a wild card: $4,444

2003 TOC (Season 19)-Held in May-Won by Mark Dawson
$0 (Max Levaren, $7,600 pre-FJ)-FJ wrong, players 1/3
$0 (Mark Lee, $7,400 pre-FJ)-FJ wrong, players 1/3

The 2003 TOC had six players finish with no money and two others who were below zero and did not play FJ.

No TOC was held in Season 20 (2003-2004)

2004 TOC (Season 21) Held in September-Won by Russ Schumacher
$4,000 (Chris Miller)-FJ right, players 3/3
$3,500 (Keith Williams)-FJ wrong, players 0/3

2006 TOC (Season 22)-Held in May-Won by Michael Falk
$11,000 (Jason Richards)-FJ wrong, players 2/3
$10,799 (Kerry Breitenbach)-FJ right, players 2/3

Jason and Kerry played in the same game

No TOC was held in Season 23 (2006-2007)

2007 TOC (Season 24)-Held in November-Won by Celeste DiNucci
$11,400 (Cliff Galiher)-FJ wrong, players 1/3
$10,600 (Nick Swezey)-FJ right, players 3/3

2009 TOC (Season 25)-Held in March-Won by Dan Pawson
$9,900 (Donna Vogel)-FJ wrong, players 1/3
$9,600 (Tom Morris)-FJ wrong, players 1/3

2010 TOC (Season 26)-Held in May-Won by Vijay Balse
$4,999 (Dave Belote)-FJ wrong, players 1/3
$4,700 (Patrick Tucker)-FJ right, players 1/3

No TOC was held in Season 27

2011 TOC (Season 28)-Held in November-Won by Roger Craig
$6,012 (Kara Spak)-FJ right, players 1/3
$2,400 (Paul Kursky)-FJ right, players 3/3

2013 TOC (Season 29)-Held in February-Won by Colby Burnett
$13,000 (Stephanie Jass)-FJ right, players 3/3
$12,000 (Ashook Poozhikunnel)-FJ wrong, players 1/3

No TOC was held in Season 30

2014 TOC (Season 31)-Held in November-Won by Ben Ingram
$9,100 (Julia Collins)-FJ wrong, players 1/3
$7,599 (Rani Peffer)-FJ right, players 2/3

2015 TOC (Season 32)-Held in November-Won by Alex Jacob
$14,000 (Dan Feitel)-FJ right, players 2/3
$12,800 (Kristin Sausville)-FJ wrong, players 1/3

No TOC was held in Season 33

2017 TOC (Season 34)-Held in November-Won by Buzzy Cohen
$11,500 (Tim Ateen)-FJ wrong, players 1/3
$9,000 (Justin Vossler)-FJ wrong, players 1/3


No TOC was held in Season 34

2019 TOC (Season 36)-Held in November-Won by James Holzhauer
$13,601 (Rachel Lindgren)-FJ right, players 1/3
$10,597 (Josh Hill)-FJ wrong, players 1/3

2021 TOC (Season 37)-Held in May-Won by Sam Kavanaugh
$11,600 (Ryan Hemmel)-FJ right, players 2/3
$9,000 (MacKenzie Jones)-FJ wrong, players 0/3

Post doubling averages (13 Tournaments)
Average lowest to get a wild card: $9,239
Average highest not to get a wild card: $7,892

Overall averages (29 Tournaments)
Average lowest to get a wild card: $10,990
Average highest not to get a wild card: $8,441
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Seniors Tournament

1987 Seniors Tournament (Season 3)-Held in May-Won by Zeke Zevilla, Jr.
$6,000 (Lee Saunders)-FJ right, players 2/3
$5,800 (Jane Weaver)-FJ right, players 2/3

Lee and Jane played in the same game. Jane led Lee going into FJ.

1988 Seniors Tournament (Season 4)-Held in May-Won by Peggy Kennedy
$8,000 (Charmion Burns)-FJ wrong, players 1/3
$7,800 (Tom Wickham)-FJ right, players 2/3

The fifth QF game is unarchived. In that game, D.J. Smith qualified as a wild card but was disqualified due to having appeared on another game show too recently and Tom was granted the final wild card spot. Bob Winthrop also had $7,800. He missed FJ on a 1/3 FJ clue.

1989 Seniors Tournament (Season 5)-Held in July-Won by Ouida Rellstab

Not enough information about this tournament is available.

1990 Seniors Tournament (Season 6)-Held in July-Won by George Souls
$2,700 (Arnold Yellin)
$2,600 (Cole Andersen)

1991 Seniors tournament (Season 7)-Held in July-Won by Lou Pryor
A fifth wildcard spot was added in this tournament due to the triple-zero finish in QF2. Malcolm Post got the fourth wildcard with $6,000, and Kay Paul picked up the extra spot with $3,000. All of the quarterfinalists in this tournament who did not go on to the semifinals finished with $0; Florence Cannizzo and Pat Van Melle were tied for the highest pre-FJ! score with $5,900 each (and both were contestants in the triple-zero game).

1992 Seniors Tournament (Season 8)-Held in July-Won by Leonard Schmidt
$2,000 (Lois Rosenfeld)
$1,599 (Mag Birge)

1993 Seniors Tournament (Season 9)-Held in July-Won by Marilyn Kneeland
$10,010 (Hugh Murphy)-FJ correct, players 3/3
$10,000 (Helen Druva)-FJ correct, players 3/3

1994 Seniors Tournament (Season 10)-Held in July-Won by Bart Thomas
$400 (Frances Taliaferro)
$300 (Dodge Crockett)

1995A Seniors Tournament (Season 11)-Held in July-Won by Aaron Klein
$7,000 (Steve Paquette)
$5,200 (Fran Rothman)

1995B Seniors Tournament (Season 12)-Held in December-Won by David Cuneo
$8,400 (Darryl Adams)
$8,100 (Diane Lilly)

Averages (9 Tournaments with one not counted):
Average lowest score to get a wild card: $5,612
Average highest score not to get a wild card: $4,933


For averaging purposes, I counted the tournament with the extra wild card as only having four wild cards, with the fourth place person being the lowest qualifier and the fifth place person being the first person out. This differs from KellyJ!'s method.
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College Tournament
1989 College Championship (Season 5)-Held in May-Won by Tom Cubbage
$8,600 (David Nieporent)-FJ right, players 2/3
$5,300 (Chris Swensen)-FJ wrong, players 2/3

1990 College Championship (Season 6)-Held in May-Won by Michael Thayer
$8,500 (Brad Williams)-got FJ, players 3/3
$7,990 (Sue O'Connor)-got FJ, players 3/3

1991 College Championship (Season 7)-Held in May-Won by Scott Gillispie
$10,000 (Franco Recchia)-FJ right, players 3/3
$6,400 (Mike Furlanetto)-FJ right, players 3/3

1992 College Championship (Season 8)-Held in May-Won by Billy Baxter
$7,900 (Nick Jungman)-FJ wrong, players 2/3
$5,800 (Margaret Bickers)-FJ wrong, players 2/3

1993 College Championship (Season 9)-Held in May-Won by Phoebe Juel
$10,799 (Eric Biber)-FJ wrong, players 2/3
$9,800 (Sate Falley))-FJ right, players 2/3.

1994 College Championship (Season 10)-Held in May-won by Jeff Stewart
$10,300 (Keri Ellis)-FJ right, players 3/3
$8,798 (Matthew Stone)-FJ right, players 3/3
Note: Keri and Matthew were both in quarterfinal #5 with Jeff Stewart.

1995 College Championship (Season 11)-Held in May-Won by Ben Lyon
$4,600 (JL McHenry)-FJ right, players 1/3
$3,000 (Josh Elman)-FJ right, players 1/3

1996 College Championship (Season 12)-Held in February-Won by Shane Whitlock
$6,200 (Mark Schmidt)-FJ right, players 3/3
$4,400 (Allyson Mondoux)-FJ right, players 3/3

1997 College Championship (Season 13)-Held in May-Won by Craig Barker
$9,300 (Eric Slack)-FJ right, players 3/3
$9,000 (Andrea Pinyan)-FJ right, players 3/3

1998 College Championship (Season 14)-Held in May-Won by Andrew Hutchings
$9,200 (Bryan Stofferahn)-FJ right, players 3/3
$8,000 (Chanel Lee)-FJ right, players 3/3

1999 College Championship (Season 15)-Held in May-Won by Carolyn Cracraft
$2,800 (Whitney Owens)-FJ right, players 2/3
$900 (Julie Ann Cohen)-FJ wrong, players 1/3

2000A College Championship (Season 16)-Held in February-Won by Janet Wong
$3,800 (Molley Jesse)-FJ wrong, players 0/3
$2,500 (Marcail Moran)-FJ wrong, players 1/3

2000B College Championship (Season 17)-Held in November-Won by Pam Mueller
$7,200 (Dave Sabath)-FJ right, players 1/2 (Two player FJ)
$4,500 (Jim Giesen)-FJ right, players 2/3

2001 College Championship (Season 18)-Held in November-Won by Vinita Kailasanath
$5,000 (Jayce Newton)-FJ right, players 3/3
$4,400 (Erin Bogart)-FJ right, players 3/3

Jayce and Erin were in the same game. Erin was in second going into FJ, ahead of Jayce, but Jayce bet it all to pass her.

Pre-doubled averages (14 tournaments)
Average lowest to get a wild card: $7,443
Average highest not to get a wild card: $5,771

2002 College Championship (Season 19)-Held in November-Won by Kyle Hale
$10,399 (Corrie Loeffler)-FJ wrong, players 2/3
$8,000 (Jenny Hauser)-FJ right, players 3/3

2003 College Championship (Season 20)-Held in November-Won by Keith Williams
$7,999 (Grant Hutchinson)-FJ wrong, players 1/3
$6,800 (Karli Kosman)-FJ wrong, players 1/3

2004 College Championship (Season 21)-Held in November-Won by Kermin Fleming
$11,000 (Amory Jendrek)-FJ right, players 3/3
$10,000 (Larry Marshall)-FJ right, players 2/3

2005 College Championship (Season 22)-Held in November-Won by Nico Martinez
$10,000 (Ben Goldman and Alison Jenik; Ben had $14,600 pre-FJ, Alison had $12,400)-FJ wrong, players 1/3
$6,900 (Chris Breen)-FJ wrong, players 0/3

2007 College Championship (Season 23)-Held in May-Won by Cliff Galiher
$13,500 (Hayley Clatterbuck)-FJ right, players 1/3
$12,600 (Anna Han)-FJ right, players 1/3

2008 College Championship (Season 24)-Held in May-Won by Joey Beachum
$11,101 (Vera Swain)-FJ wrong, players 2/3
$9,800 (Katie Winter)-FJ right, players 1/3

2009 College Championship (Season 25)-Held in May-Won by Patrick Tucker
$15,000 (Eric Betts)-FJ right, players 2/3
$14,400 (Larissa Charnsangavej)-FJ right, players 2/3

2010-A College Championship (Season 26)-Held in February-Won by Nick Yozamp
$13,584 (Dan D'Addario)-FJ wrong, players 2/3
$11,974 (Rebecca Maxfield)-FJ wrong, players 1/3

2010-B College Championship (Season 27)-Held in November-Won by Erin McLean
$15,800 (Kyle Kahan)-FJ right, players 3/3
$15,000 (Olivia Colangelo)-FJ right, players 3/3

2012 College Championship (Season 28)-Held in February-Won by Monica Thieu
$12,799 (Jaime Alayon)-FJ wrong, players 2/3
$11,600 (Zach McDonnell)-FJ right, players 3/3

2013 College Championship (Season 29)-Held in May-Won by Jim Coury
$9,199 (Jed Silver)-FJ wrong, players 2/3
$8,400 (Jack Houston)-FJ right, players 1/3

2014 College Championship (Season 30)-Held in February-Won by Terry O'Shea
$11,370 (Tucker Pope)-FJ right, players 3/3
$10,800 (Cameron Kim)-FJ right, players 3/3

No College Championship was held in Season 31

2016 College Championship (Season 32)-Held in February-Won by Sam Deutsch
$14,400 (Kate Laubscher)-FJ right, players 2/3
$14,400 (Michael Sieja)-FJ right, players 3/3

This tournament produced a three-way tie for third in the wild card standings. Hannah Norem also had $14,400, but got the third spot for having a higher score going into FJ with $7,400. Kate and Michael both had $7,200 before FJ and doubled up. Katie claimed the final wild card by having $3,200 after the J! round compared to Michael's $2,600.

2017 College Championship (Season 33)-Held in February-Won by Lilly Chin
$14,000 (Clarissa Santori)-FJ wrong, players 2/3
$13,000 (Allison Holley)-FJ right, players 3/3

2018 College Championship (Season 34)-Held in April-Won by Dhruv Gaur
$11,800 (Eric Thorpe)-Missed FJ, players 1/3
$6,600 (Caroline Trammell)-Missed FJ, players 2/3

No College Championship was held in Season 35

2020 College Championship (Season 36)
$12,800 (Xiaoke Ying)-FJ right, players 3/3
$6,700 (Emma Farrell)-FJ wrong, player 1/3


Post-doubled averages (16 Tournaments):
Average lowest to get a wild card: $12,172
Average highest not to get a wild card: $10,436

Overall averages (30 Tournaments):
Average lowest to get a wild card: $13,438
Average highest not to get a wild card: $10,952
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Teen Tournament
1987 Teen Tournament (Season 3)-Held in February-Won by Michael Galvin
$5,000 (Dana Venator)-FJ wrong, players 2/3
$4,900 (Amy Wilson and Cres Formey)- Both got FJ right. The players were 3/3 in Amy's game and 2/2 in Cres' in a 2-player FJ.

1988 Teen Tournament (Season 4)-Held in February-Won by Michael Block
$7,999 (David Javerbaum)-FJ wrong, players 1/3
$4,200 (Eric Reid)-FJ wrong, players 0/3

1989 Teen Tournament (Season 5)-Held in February-Won by Eric Newhouse
$5,000 (Elene Whitley)-FJ wrong, players 2/3
I do not have enough information about this tournament. QF2 are QF3 are missing.

1990 Teen Tournament (Season 6)-Held in February-Won by Jamie Weiss
$5,400 (Mike Grant)-FJ right, players 3/3
$4,199 (Sharon Kristal)-FJ wrong, players 2/3

1991 Teen Tournament (Season 7)-Held in February-Won by Andy Westney
$9,800 (Maggie Large)-FJ right, players 3/3
$9,701 (Chris Beckner)-FJ right, players 2/3

1992 Teen Tournament (Season 8)-Held in February-Won by April McManus
$8,850 (Jill Young)-FJ right, players 3/3
$8,300 (Muffy Morris)-FJ right, players 3/3, had $7,300 pre-FJ
$8,300 (Jason Colby)-FJ right, players 2/3, had $4,200 pre-FJ

1993 Teen Tournament (Season 9)-Held in February-Won by Fraser Woodford
$10,000 (Mit Robertson)-FJ right, players 3/3
$9,000 (Scott Steiger)-FJ wrong, players 2/3, had $9,500 pre-FJ
$9,000 (Colin Rafferty)-FJ right, players 3/3, had $7,100 pre-FJ

1994 Teen Tournament (Season 10)-Held in February-won by Matt Morris
$6,100 (E.J. Sieracki)-FJ wrong, players 2/3
$5,000 (Rebecca Sinderbrand)-FJ right, players 2/3
Note: E.J. and Rebecca were both in quarterfinal #5

1995 Teen Tournament (Season 11)-Held in February-Won by Matt Zielenski
$7,300 (Halla Yang)-FJ wrong, players 0/3
$6,600 (Jim Steichen)-FJ wrong, players 0/3

1996 Teen Tournament (Season 12)-Held in May-won by Amanda Goad
$9,000 (Anthony Chiu)-FJ right, players 3/3
$9,000 (Talisha Burton)-FJ right, players 3/3

Anthony had $7,100 pre-FJ to Talisha's $5,200.

1997A Teen Tournament (Season 13)-Held in February-Won by Josh Den Hartog
$3,989 (Josh Den Hartog)-FJ wrong, players 2/3
$3,500 (Alex Rubalcaya and Sharon Druck. Alex had $2,300 pre-FJ to Sharon's $2,000)

Alex had FJ right (in Josh's game), Sharon had FJ right, players 2/3

1997B Teen Tournament (Season 14)-Held in November-Won by Sahir Islam
$6,399 (Evan Johnson)-FJ wrong, players 1/3
$4,999 (Meghan Arnold)-FJ right, players 3/3

1999A Teen Tournament (Season 15)-Held in February-Won by Melissa Sexstone
$5,500 (Joan Williams)-FJ wrong, players 2/3
$5,399 (Kitty Roberts)-FJ wrong, players 1/3

1999B Teen Tournament (Season 16)-Held in November-Won by Chacko George
$4,995 (Chrissy Ijams)-FJ right, players 1/3
$4,400 (Marcia Hensley)-FJ wrong, players 0/3

2001 Teen Tournament (Season 17)-Held in May-Won by Graham Gilmer
$7,400 (Katherine Bushey)-FJ right, players 3/3
$6,500 (Farah Zolghadr)-FJ wrong, players 2/3

Pre-doubling averages (14 Tournaments):
Average lowest to get a wild card: $6,984
Average highest not to get a wild card: $6,121

2002 Teen Tournament (Season 18)-Held in February
$12,207 (Andy Kravis)-FJ right, players 3/3
$11,400 (Allie Pape and Anne Gohmann. Allie had $11,200 pre-FJ and Anne had $8,400)-Allie was right, played in Andy's game.

2003 Teen Tournament (Season 19)-Held in February-Won by John Zhang
$16,400 (Tara Karr)-FJ right, players 3/3
$14,200 (Jonathan Gillerman)-FJ right, players 3/3

2004 Teen Tournament (Season 20)-Held in February-Won by Jennifer Wu
$9,644 (Muhammad Meigooni)-FJ wrong, players 1/3
$9,200 (Zach Schoepflin)-FJ right, players 3/3

2005 Teen Tournament (Season 21)-Held in February-Won by Michael Braun
$8,000 (Orlando Zambrano)-FJ right, players 3/3
$7,200 (Kerri Regan)-FJ right, players 3/3

2006 Teen Tournament (Season 22)-Held in February
$10,700 (Sebastian Johnson)
$8,000 (Andrew Watkins and Laura Ansley; Andrew had $14,000 pre-FJ and Laura had $13,500)

2007 Teen Tournament (Season 23)-Held in February-Won by David Walter
$17,500 (Frank Firke)-FJ wrong, players 2/3
$14,950 (Heidi Liu)-FJ right, players 3/3

2007 Teen Tournament Summer Games (Season 23)-Held in July-Won by Meryl Fedeman
$17,721 (Rachel Gottesman)-FJ right, players 3/3
$17,400 (Ben Noe)-FJ right, players 2/3

2008A Teen Tournament (Season 24)-Held in February-Won by Rachel Horn
$13,000 (Todd Faulkenberry)-FJ wrong, players 1/3
$11,200 (Janelle Lambert)-FJ right, players 3/3

2008B Teen Tournament (Season 25)-Held in November-Won by Anurag Kashyap
$8,200 (Audrey Hosford)-FJ wrong, players 1/2 (2 player FJ)
$6,800 (Haley Batz)-FJ wrong, players 1/3

2009 Teen Tournament (Season 26)-Held in November-Won by Rachel Rothenberg
$13,800 (Rachel Rothenberg)-FJ right, players 3/3
$13,598 (Samantha Reback)-FJ right, players 3/3

2011 Teen Tournament (Season 27)-Held in February-Won by Raynell Cooper
$14,400 (Kate Wadman)-FJ wrong, players 1/3
$8,800 (Carlee Jensen)-FJ right, players 3/3

2012 Teen Tournament (Season 28)-Held in May-Won by Elyse Mancuso
$15,001 (Krishna Bharathala)-FJ right, players 3/3
$12,600 (Gabriela Gonzales)-FJ wrong, players 0/3

2013 Teen Tournament (Season 29)-Held in February-Won by Leonard Cooper
$15,000 (Irene Vasquez)-FJ right, players 3/3
$13,800 (Katie Stone)-FJ right, players 2/3

2014 Teen Tournament (Season 30)-Held in July-Won by Jeff Xie
$14,400 (Kat Deabill)-FJ wrong, players 1/2 (Two player FJ)
$9,000 (Erin Christopher)-FJ wrong, players 2/3
(Technically, the players were 1/3 in Erin's game. Jeff Xie accidentally left off the l at the end of Eiffel Tower and was ruled wrong).

No Teen Tournament was held in Season 31

No Teen Tournament was held in Season 32

2016 Teen Tournament (Season 33)-Held in November-Won by Sharath Narayan
$10,800 (Apurva Kanneganti)-FJ right, players 2/3
$5,600 (Jack Bekos)-FJ wrong, players 0/3

No Teen Tournament was held in Season 34

2018 Teen Tournament (Season 35)-Held in November
$11,900 (Rohan Kapileshwari)-FJ right, players 2/3
$6,800 (Rhea Sinha)-FJ wrong, players 2/3

2019 Teen Tournament (Season 35)-Held in June-Won by Avi Gupta
$18,200 (Hannah Nekritz)-FJ right, players 3/3
$18,000 (Sreekar Madabushi)-FJ right, players 2/3

Post-doubling averages (17 tournaments)
Average lowest score to get a wild card: $13,345
Average highest score not to get a wild card: $11,091

Overall averages (31 tournaments)
Average lowest score to get a wild card: $13,627
Average highest score not to get a wild card: $11,611
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Teachers Tournament
2011 Teachers Tournament (Season 27)-Held in May-Won by Charles Temple:
$16,400 (Elisabeth Raab)-FJ right, players 3/3
$8,399 (Judd Hess)-FJ right, players 3/3

2012A Teachers Tournament (Season 28)-Held in February-Won by Patrick Quinn:
$12,799 (Leslie Decker)-FJ right, players 1/3
$11,700 (Elissa Hoffman)-FJ right, players 2/3

2012B Teachers Tournament (Season 29)-Held in November-Won by Colby Burnett:
$11,601 (Whitney Collins)-FJ right, players 3/3
$10,000 (Diana North)-FJ wron, players 2/3

2013 Teachers Tournament (Season 30)-Held in November-Won by John Pearson:
$16,400 (Katie Moriarty)-FJ right, players 3/3
$13,800 (Michael Townes)-FJ wrong, players 1/3

2015 Teachers Tournament (Season 31)-Held in February-Won by Jennifer Giles
$4,600 (Cathy Farrell)-FJ wrong, players 0/3
$3,000 (Marylou McKenna)-FJ wrong, players 0/2 (Two player FJ)

2016 Teachers Tournament (season 32)-Held in May-Won by Jason Sterlacci
$5,000 (Nicole Throckmorton)-FJ wrong, players 0/3
$1,300 (Terrie Trebilcock)-FJ wrong, players 1/3

2017 Teachers Tournament (Season 33)-Held in May-Won by David Clemmens
$12,000 (Holly Cannon)-FJ right, players 2/3
$11,100 (Dennis McDonald)-FJ wrong, players 2/3

Holly and Dennis were in the same game.

2018 Teachers Tournament (Season 34)-Held in May-Won by Larry Martin
$5,600 (Erika Eason)-FJ wrong, players 1/3
$4,000 (Ranjani Sheshadri)-FJ wrong, players 1/3

2019 Teachers Tournament (Season 35)-Held in May-Won by Francois Barcomb
$12,300 (Dave Rowswell)-FJ right, players 2/3
$5,199 (Alexandra Bicks)-FJ wrong, players 0/3

2020 Teachers Tournament (Season 36)-Held in May and June
$14,001 (Lauren Schneider Lipton)-FJ right, players 3/3
$11,599 (Anne Pulju)-FJ wrong, players 0/3



Averages (10 Tournaments):
Average lowest score to get a wild card: $11,070
Average highest score not to get a wild card: $8,010
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Super-TOC
Million Dollar Masters (Season 18)-Won by Brad Rutter
$17,400 (Claudia Perry)-FJ right, players 2/3
$12,401 (Rachael Schwartz)-FJ right, players 2/3

Battle of the Decades (Season 30)-Won by Brad Rutter
$11,000 (Colby Burnett)-FJ wrong, players 0/3
$8,600 (Mark Dawson)-FJ wrong, players 0/3

Colby and Mark were in the same game

Averages (2 Tournaments):
Average lowest to get a wild card: $14,200
Average highest not to get a wild card: $10,501
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This space is held in reserve in case any new tournaments are held, such as a tournament for plumbers with a PhD.
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All Tournaments

Pre-doubled (53 Tournaments)
Average lowest to get a wild card: $6,637
Average highest not to get a wild card: $5,320

Post-doubled (58 Tournaments)
Average lowest to get a wild card: $11,735
Average highest not to get a wild card: $9,643

Overall averages (111 Tournaments)
Average lowest to get a wild card: $12,471
Average highest not to get a wild card: $10,119

To get the overall averages, I doubled the amounts of the pre-doubled era games and averaged them with the post-doubled games.
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I'd been editing my post at the end of KellyJ!'s thread to add new cutoffs as they occurred. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=26&p=41821#p41821

You've got Max Levaren's first name as Mark, and have given erroneously identical pre-FJ scores to the tied #4 and #5 non-winners in the 1996 Teen Tournament.
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Fixed, thanks for the catch. Hopefully some of the unarchived games will pop up and the holes can be filled in.
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Actually I'm still here - but under a different identity due to login errors (I didn't re-register until I got ready to present an April Fool's joke to the board this year). I still maintain and update the files on my computer and my backup flash drive (so if something happens to this board I've got the info).
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The scores that I mentioned but you can't find sources to back them up with came from a couple of now-defunct fan sites (one of which was an AOL-based archive of Season 20 games by 2002 1-time champion Ronnie O'Rourke).
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Bumping this thread as the latest Teen Tournament begins.
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Bumping this thread for the TOC.
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If you have the extra time, Bamaman, I'd love to see these lists updated to note whether the listed players got final right or wrong, and also whether the Final round in the QF game was 0/3, 1/3, 2/3, or 3/3. I have a suspicion that in any given tournament the quarterfinal Final clues are not exactly calibrated to be of equal difficulty, but rather, lie along a more binomial distribution, and thus, that making it to the quarterfinals on a wildcard has more to do with being in one of the lucky games with an easy Final. (Or if you don't mind I can just start editing the posts with that data, by the power vested in me.)
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Robert K S wrote:If you have the extra time, Bamaman, I'd love to see these lists updated to note whether the listed players got final right or wrong, and also whether the Final round in the QF game was 0/3, 1/3, 2/3, or 3/3. I have a suspicion that in any given tournament the quarterfinal Final clues are not exactly calibrated to be of equal difficulty, but rather, lie along a more binomial distribution, and thus, that making it to the quarterfinals on a wildcard has more to do with being in one of the lucky games with an easy Final.
I'll try and do that Friday night.
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Has a wildcard player ever won the TOC?
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floridagator wrote:Has a wildcard player ever won the TOC?
Michael Falk did in 2006, and it has probably happened a few other times. Given that the wagering situation is different from regular games in quarterfinal tournament games, when there are wild card spots up for grabs, it really isn't a huge thing when someone wins a J! tournament as a wild card.
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floridagator wrote:Has a wildcard player ever won the TOC?
Rachael Schwartz in 1994.
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