Wednesday, March 2, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

[naurae29]

Was that 'hanging' DD a well-known bit of trivia? There aren't many clues that make me say 'wtf?' out loud, but maybe I just missed hearing about it.

I got it, but I spent a summer working at the public defender's office in Delaware, so...

That said, it basically alluded to a surprisingly recent use of an old school execution method, so I (perhaps delusionally) thought it would be guessable.

Poll question, please?

[opusthepenguin]

Also Juneau.

Bad wager from 3rd.

Actually, he couldn't catch Rachel (who really shouldn't have bet anything), so his best bet was to hope that she made the all-in suicide wager, and stay above Peter if he got it wrong. Figures that a bad wager would've won.

Exactly. Rachel made a bad wager, just not the RIGHT bad wager for the guy in third. He made a decent wager, though I would've respected an all-in wager as well. When your only hope of winning is for someone else to make a mistake, it can be hard to decide WHICH mistake you should prepare for.

[opusthepenguin]

I considered both Montpelier, VT, and Augusta, ME, for this FJ, and luckily picked the right one.

Me too. In part because I was only 95% sure that Augusta was Maine's capital.

[Vinny V]

For those who are J! trivia warriors, when was the last time a situation of a player calling out the answer while not ringing in took place? While Peter's gaffe was quite humorous (he took it well in stride), I'm glad it didn't end up costing him or affecting the overall game.

[cosmos]

Could Northern Lights be too specific when all they wanted was aurora which can be north or south? Could they neg someone for that?

[AndyTheQuizzer]

For those who are J! trivia warriors, when was the last time a situation of a player calling out the answer while not ringing in took place? While Peter's gaffe was quite humorous (he took it well in stride), I'm glad it didn't end up costing him or affecting the overall game.

3 I found in J! Archive:

http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=361 (ANATOMY $400)

http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=225 (GRANT $200)

http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=1787 (JAPANESE $600)

[Vinny V]

Thanks! Four instances in 32 years! Talk about rarity!

[doihavetoreally]

Was that 'hanging' DD a well-known bit of trivia? There aren't many clues that make me say 'wtf?' out loud, but maybe I just missed hearing about it.

I got it, but I spent a summer working at the public defender's office in Delaware, so...

That said, it basically alluded to a surprisingly recent use of an old school execution method, so I (perhaps delusionally) thought it would be guessable.

Poll question, please?

I said electrocution -- picked a random execution method. That is a weird DD..the DJ DDs were very easy, weren't they?

For a change, easy get on FJ. I also dreaded the 'State Capitals' category, but turned out to be an easy guess for me. Whats up with Newport?

[The Talking Mime]

Am I the only one who said Honolulu for FJ? The clue said the capital was settled around the 1780s, which I thought could refer to James Cook since he was active in the Pacific shortly before that time, and I thought perhaps being off the continental U.S. could be a factor for not having a McDonalds. Definitely a wrong answer of course, but I felt it was at least an educated guess on my part.

[silverscreentest]

Am I the only one who said Honolulu for FJ? The clue said the capital was settled around the 1780s, which I thought could refer to James Cook since he was active in the Pacific shortly before that time, and I thought perhaps being off the continental U.S. could be a factor for not having a McDonalds. Definitely a wrong answer of course, but I felt it was at least an educated guess on my part.

There are nearly a million people in the Honolulu metro area. Australia is also very far from the continental U.S., but there nearly a thousand McDonald's there.

[grindcore]

For those who are J! trivia warriors, when was the last time a situation of a player calling out the answer while not ringing in took place? While Peter's gaffe was quite humorous (he took it well in stride), I'm glad it didn't end up costing him or affecting the overall game.

Good ol' Sandie Baker in the ToC.

Thanks for the reminder. I miss that lady, she was great.

[TenPoundHammer]

Peter seemed a bit frazzled at times

I've NHO Devil's Island, but I guessed it anyway off the French cognates. "Small" right below it had me thinking TOO small and trying to put a D in Liechtenstein/Luxembourg/Andorra/etc.

Exodus = Bob Marley was undervalued at $200.

Ran Missing Links and "Bat".

Can't say that I've heard of Bermuda shorts. I hate fashion categories.

Floyd Mayweather was waaaaay undervalued at $400. He has only two other hits in the Archive, both being at the bottom of the category and one being a stand-and-stare.

Insta-insta-insta get. I've known this chestnut for years. Most of the businesses serving Montpelier are actually nearby in Berlin or Barre.

[Category 13]

Bad wager from 3rd.

Actually, he couldn't catch Rachel (who really shouldn't have bet anything), so his best bet was to hope that she made the all-in suicide wager, and stay above Peter if he got it wrong. Figures that a bad wager would've won.

Exactly. Rachel made a bad wager, just not the RIGHT bad wager for the guy in third. He made a decent wager, though I would've respected an all-in wager as well. When your only hope of winning is for someone else to make a mistake, it can be hard to decide WHICH mistake you should prepare for.

Rachel's wager, while not without risk, was justifiable. If I were in her spot, I wouldn't want to let Peter get away with a small wager if I felt confident with the category.
She at least covered a zero wager by him, in case he decided to out fox her.

A lot of irony between John's pre FJ score/wager and David's from yesterday's game. I'll bet David, if he was sitting in the audience, wishes could have swapped wagers with John and vice-versa.

[MarkBarrett]

Poll request for execution method seen.

The easy ad lib moment to show personality and drive floridagator crazy was missed on the Lurch clue when I wanted to see a snap of the fingers. Rachel's guessing The Munsters is a common show mix-up I've seen many times on game shows going both ways depending on the character used.

That BIBLE BOOKS IN POP MUSIC went through the SHC valuator.

200 - Exodus
400 -Daniel
600 - Ezra
800 - Jeremiah
1000 - Genesis

For me without seeing the writer's values I would have had it as: Jeremiah, Genesis, Daniel, Exodus, Ezra

As it played out credit to the people who get paid to decide such things.

*******
With the edit surrounding Baskervilles my guess is it was not a real triple stumper, so do not blame the silent players. Alex probably gave away that it was plural at some point, so the other players were forced to stand there and play dumb.

The giving a response without ringing in and serving up a gift is fairly rare, but without a doubt it has happened more times the handful of occasions rounded up so far. Being too comfortable after a Daily Double is an unusual way to blurt out a response without ringing in.

What has happened most often is a player gives a response without ringing in, Alex reminds that person to ring in and that same player is still the first to respond. Another player swooping in with the correct response was John robbing Peter to pay himself?

The humorous times of such things happening is the player who responds without ringing in, Alex gets the person to buzz in and then that person is incorrect.

When I saw the FJ! clue I checked on my usual starting points of AK and HI first. Juneau did not seem right at all for 1780s. In Honolulu I was sure I had read about Spam at the restaurants on the islands.

My next thought was some kind of Mormon prohibition, so SLC, but once again 1780s had to rule it out. I thought perhaps small state and was certain Providence was 1600s.

What I failed to do during think time was the logical move of small state capital city. That would have had Montpelier at least on the short list.

Time was up and I wrote Columbus to have something. My desperate thinking was The Ohio St. not wanting fast food in a college town. Brilliant Mark, just brilliant.

0/3 for the week and the way it's going I deserve to complete the collar over the next two days.

[SlickRick87]

Time was up and I wrote Columbus to have something. My desperate thinking was The Ohio St. not wanting fast food in a college town. Brilliant Mark, just brilliant.

So glad I'm not the only one who said Columbus.

My reasoning was that Wendy's is headquartered there, so maybe they wouldn't have had McDonald's. However, I was recently in Columbus, and I would imagine I had to have seen a McDonald's, but they're so ubiquitous that it would be easy to miss.

EDIT: Just checked a map. There was a McDonald's right between the Columbus Crew's stadium and the hotel I stayed at that night, so I'm absolutely certain I saw a McDonald's.

[BigDaddyMatty]

Coryat: $36,000
45 R/2 W
DD: 2/3
FJ: Instaget
LT: Genesis, professional wrestler, Torino, The Hound of the Baskervilles

FJ! was a well-known chestnut, but I don't know how one who doesn't know that teases it out. Likewise, the hanging DD was a crap shoot.

Floyd Mayweather was waaaaay undervalued at $400. He has only two other hits in the Archive, both being at the bottom of the category and one being a stand-and-stare.

Please stop doing this. You have no frame of reference for sports questions. Floyd Mayweather Jr. is one of the most successful boxers of all time and was the highest-paid celebrity in the world last year.

While it wasn't undervalued, it was negbait (and I bit). Boxing + 49-0 = Rocky Marciano. The only way to tell between them was the odd phrasing of "won his first 49 pro fights." Mayweather is ostensibly retired, hence the past tense, but still alive and likely to fight again, thus the lack of finality.

[This Is Kirk!]

For me without seeing the writer's values I would have had it as: Jeremiah, Genesis, Daniel, Exodus, Ezra

I think I'd go Daniel, Ezra, Genesis, Jeremiah, Exodus.

The song "Exodus" is one of Bob Marley's more well-known songs, but how famous is it? I'm not sure it's a bottom row clue, but it sure seems tough for a top row.

[Category 13]

Insta-insta-insta get. I've known this chestnut for years. Most of the businesses serving Montpelier are actually nearby in Berlin or Barre.

I've known for at least twenty years that there are no Wal Mart stores in the state of Vermont, so it clicked right away for me.
Not sure whether the McDonalds absence is state wide though.

[Vermonter]

Insta-insta-insta get. I've known this chestnut for years. Most of the businesses serving Montpelier are actually nearby in Berlin or Barre.

I've known for at least twenty years that there are no Wal Mart stores in the state of Vermont, so it clicked right away for me.
Not sure whether the McDonalds absence is state wide though.

There have been Wal-Marts in Vermont since I was in high school, so for at least 15 years. The first IIRC was in Bennington – my mom tells me they are actually planning to build a bigger one.

FWIW, unless something has changed, Vermont is still one of two states that ban billboards.

"To me, there’s no scarier Final Jeopardy! category than STATE CAPITALS." -Keith Williams, TheFinalWager.co

Really looking forward to how he plays this one, and not just because of what the answer is. (This fact does not appear on his State Capitals study page, I don't think.) It's...a Final Jeopardy clue all right, I'll say that.

(I got it right, for whatever that's worth. Some trivia fact I heard once.)

Enjoy



(you can skip to 3:45 if you don't want to talk wagering)

[dexterG]

I went with Juneau as well. I was there in 2007 and did not remember a McDonalds being there.