The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by seaborgium » Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:27 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
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seaborgium wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:09 pm
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[citation needed]
It's an English word with a negative connotation. http://www.dictionary.com/browse/stigma
So? There was also a pope called Hilarius. And the other option in the clue, "Sisinnius", seems like a trap too since it's got "Sissy" in it. Another word with a negative connotation.
And you call our explanations a long way to go. You could have focused on "sin" within Sisinnius, but you got greedy in your straw-grasping efforts.
Still. There were some silly names on popes. "Stigma" is hardly a can't-miss.
At least you admit it's can't-miss.

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Post by Volante » Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:30 pm

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How about "you" as "the entire viewing audience"?
I wouldn't make the assumption that all of J!'s viewers are English speakers. Contestants, yes, but not the audience.

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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by Wheatley » Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:31 pm

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WLT "English" at $400? That wasn't even close to a cognate.
"If you speak eigo (and you do), you speak this"

They told you they wanted a language - not their fault Jeremy didn't read it correctly. What language can they assume with certainty that you speak?
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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by TenPoundHammer » Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:38 pm

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WLT "English" at $400? That wasn't even close to a cognate.
"If you speak eigo (and you do), you speak this"

They told you they wanted a language - not their fault Jeremy didn't read it correctly. What language can they assume with certainty that you speak?
I don't know. I never did figure out if they speak English in What.
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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by BobF » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:48 am

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:38 pm
Wheatley wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:31 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:28 pm
WLT "English" at $400? That wasn't even close to a cognate.
"If you speak eigo (and you do), you speak this"

They told you they wanted a language - not their fault Jeremy didn't read it correctly. What language can they assume with certainty that you speak?
I don't know. I never did figure out if they speak English in What.
What language was the clue written in? If they wrote "Si tu parle French, (et tu le parle) tu parle cet langue" on a French version of Jeopardy!, you can be sure the correct question is "What is French?" "Quel est Francais?"
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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by Bamaman » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:51 am

1stlvlthinker wrote:
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I thought choosing between Sixtus IV, V, and VI should have been the top box.
That could be solved logically with no knowledge of papal history. I like it.
What logic is there to be had?
Well, if there was a Sixtus V and VI, but not a Sixtus IV, there would have had to be a really weird reason for it. Occam's Razor it out and it's 99% likely to be the right answer.
Exactly. As seaborgium noted, there have been some screwy things related to pope names. But I would not expect them to answer us about an oddball situation where a name/number combo was skipped for some reason unless it had resulted in a huge story recently. So there not being a Sixtus VI should be obvious.

On a side note, if you (meaning anybody reading this) get the call, familiarizing yourself with pope names might be a good thing to do as they come up from time to time.

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:45 pm

So apparently what I'm getting is that most of these clues run on moon logic.
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Post by opusthepenguin » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:52 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
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So apparently what I'm getting is that most of these clues run on moon logic.
You ever hear that joke about the guy who calls his wife on her cell phone to warn her that some idiot is driving the wrong way on the freeway? And she says, "It's not just ONE idiot! There's HUNDREDS of them!"

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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by This Is Kirk! » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:57 pm

opusthepenguin wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:52 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote:
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So apparently what I'm getting is that most of these clues run on moon logic.
You ever hear that joke about the guy who calls his wife on her cell phone to warn her that some idiot is driving the wrong way on the freeway? And she says, "It's not just ONE idiot! There's HUNDREDS of them!"
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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by Bamaman » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:53 pm

opusthepenguin wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:52 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:45 pm
So apparently what I'm getting is that most of these clues run on moon logic.
You ever hear that joke about the guy who calls his wife on her cell phone to warn her that some idiot is driving the wrong way on the freeway? And she says, "It's not just ONE idiot! There's HUNDREDS of them!"
That sums up this entire thread.

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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by Wheatley » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:04 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
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So apparently what I'm getting is that most of these clues run on moon logic.
See that's the part I think rubs people the wrong way - when it's the quiz's fault rather then the quizee's.
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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by alietr » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:51 pm

opusthepenguin wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:52 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:45 pm
So apparently what I'm getting is that most of these clues run on moon logic.
You ever hear that joke about the guy who calls his wife on her cell phone to warn her that some idiot is driving the wrong way on the freeway? And she says, "It's not just ONE idiot! There's HUNDREDS of them!"
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Post by seaborgium » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:15 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:45 pm
So apparently what I'm getting is that most of these clues run on moon logic.
My logic is way more than 250,000 miles from your planet's.

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Post by MarkBarrett » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:01 pm

The Warren Commission concerned investigating the assassination of JFK, so LBJ, the man who became president.

FOREVER 'YOUNG" was intended to give players and viewers a little help. It failed you for the Ohio city and Chris with his missed DD for a steeper penalty.

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Post by Wheatley » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:19 pm

Why wasn't "selling alcohol" BMS'd if they accepted "selling alcohol on Sundays"? I saw no way to choose between the two anyway.
Some states' blue laws single out alcohol. "Selling alcohol" by itself is wrong because by definition, no blue laws completely prohibit it.
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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by goatman » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:20 pm

seaborgium wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:15 pm
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So apparently what I'm getting is that most of these clues run on moon logic.
My logic is way more than 250,000 miles from your planet's.
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#4472, aired 2004-02-03 ELEMENT"S" $2,000 (Daily Double): It was named for the moon as it was found with tellurium which was named for the Earth

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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by TenPoundHammer » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:13 pm

Bamaman wrote:
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Exactly. As seaborgium noted, there have been some screwy things related to pope names. But I would not expect them to answer us about an oddball situation where a name/number combo was skipped for some reason unless it had resulted in a huge story recently. So there not being a Sixtus VI should be obvious.
Unless you don't know the history of popes. Some numbers have been skipped, so it's easy to go "well, Sixtus VI is blatant negbait, because why else would something that obvious be that far down the board? Must be IV or V."
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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by MarkBarrett » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:53 pm

piñon looks very close to pine and bristlecone is a pine tree.

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#4706, aired 2005-02-07 BOTANY $400: (Cheryl of the Clue Crew reports from a ski slope.) The bristlecone variety of this tree is the oldest type of living tree in the U.S., and can live 4,000 years or more
#4045, aired 2002-03-15 STATE SUPERLATIVES $800: At 4,600 years, bristlecone pines in this state's Inyo National Forest are believed to be the oldest living trees
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Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by TenPoundHammer » Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:01 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:53 pm
piñon looks very close to pine
Again with the "kinda sorta vaguely almost looks like a cognate if you squint at it" crap, huh?
MarkBarrett wrote:
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and bristlecone is a pine tree.
[citation needed]
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Post by jeff6286 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:45 pm

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:01 pm
MarkBarrett wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:53 pm
piñon looks very close to pine
Again with the "kinda sorta vaguely almost looks like a cognate if you squint at it" crap, huh?
MarkBarrett wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:53 pm
and bristlecone is a pine tree.
[citation needed]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristlecone_pine

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