Monday, October 9, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]
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Re: Monday, October 9, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]
First FJ I hadn't previously seen in two weeks, and it was an insta-get, but like others above, that's only because I took Latin courses throughout high school and college.
Austin seemed jet-lagged in this game; he sounded almost shaky on several responses. It will be interesting to see if that was fatigue, which will increase with each win, or just first-game-of-the-day jitters, which will likely decrease.
Austin seemed jet-lagged in this game; he sounded almost shaky on several responses. It will be interesting to see if that was fatigue, which will increase with each win, or just first-game-of-the-day jitters, which will likely decrease.
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Re: Monday, October 9, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]
I had heard that this was a change, that the players would be staying at their lecterns all the time for the closing credits now. This was the first episode of this.kprather895 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:48 am Is that just something they've been doing lately? I haven't really noticed. Maybe one of the players had mobility issues?
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Re: Monday, October 9, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]
I hope Austin keeps winning until his hair grows back.
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Re: Monday, October 9, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]
Several of us have already disproved the assertion that this FJ was YEKIOYD or in any way dependent on knowing the Latin phrase; it was solvable via "ancient name for place that included what are now France and Belgium."
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I was the exact same ... I've never taken Latin and didn't know the quote. I puzzled out the geographical areas (with a brief stop in Britain) and knew that Caesar had conquered Gaul.hbomb1947 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:32 pm That's simply incorrect. I never took Latin and never heard the quote prior to tonight's episode, but I reasoned it out by knowing history, and realizing the correct response had to be an area roughly corresponding to modern France but that also included a people called the "Belgae" (who sure sounded like a people who gave their name to Belgium). The inclusion of the Belgae helped me remember the category and not write "France"; and I guessed (correctly) that Gaul -- which I had previously thought of mainly as being the ancient predecessor to France -- must have included at least part of what's now Belgium. (And modern Flanders, BTW, is part of Belgium, not France.)
And I would feel confident in guessing that other boardies solved the clue through similar thought processes.
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It was an assignment that probably only my English teacher read, so my secret was safely hidden.This Is Kirk! wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:14 amOut of curiosity, how many wedgies did you get in 8th grade?
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Does anyone know why the quote is famous in the first place? It seems like a pretty innocuous quote to be one that Caesar is remembered for.
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Embarrassed to admit that the Celtic reference had me thinking Brittany, and then I was trying to come up with what region would include Belgium and Aquitaine, compounded by thinking of "area" as being some discrete part of a country, which resulted in "Normandy." (The fact that Aquitaine is not remotely where I thought it was didn't help).
Shorter version: made it way too complicated.
Shorter version: made it way too complicated.
Re: Monday, October 9, 2017 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]
The only quote I know from Caesar is "Pizza! Pizza!"This Is Kirk! wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:30 pm Does anyone know why the quote is famous in the first place? It seems like a pretty innocuous quote to be one that Caesar is remembered for.
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It's no Veni, vidi, vici or Alea iacta est, that's for sure. I suspect it's 'famous' only because Caesar wrote it. If someone else wrote that book, then it wouldn't be remembered at all.This Is Kirk! wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:30 pmDoes anyone know why the quote is famous in the first place? It seems like a pretty innocuous quote to be one that Caesar is remembered for.
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Opening lines are often memorable. Can anyone name another line from Anna Karenina apart from "All happy families are alike" or another line from Moby-Dick apart from "Call me Ishmael?"econgator wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:40 pmIt's no Veni, vidi, vici or Alea iacta est, that's for sure. I suspect it's 'famous' only because Caesar wrote it. If someone else wrote that book, then it wouldn't be remembered at all.This Is Kirk! wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:30 pmDoes anyone know why the quote is famous in the first place? It seems like a pretty innocuous quote to be one that Caesar is remembered for.
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I had the same issue. I was hung up on the word "area" in the category, and to me, Gaul was too big to be an "area" - I was thinking along the same lines as you.Elijah Baley wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:35 pm Embarrassed to admit that the Celtic reference had me thinking Brittany, and then I was trying to come up with what region would include Belgium and Aquitaine, compounded by thinking of "area" as being some discrete part of a country, which resulted in "Normandy." (The fact that Aquitaine is not remotely where I thought it was didn't help).
Shorter version: made it way too complicated.
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mikebdoss wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:24 pmThat's why they divided it into three parts.Elijah Baley wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:35 pm Embarrassed to admit that the Celtic reference had me thinking Brittany, and then I was trying to come up with what region would include Belgium and Aquitaine, compounded by thinking of "area" as being some discrete part of a country, which resulted in "Normandy." (The fact that Aquitaine is not remotely where I thought it was didn't help).
Shorter version: made it way too complicated.
I had the same issue. I was hung up on the word "area" in the category, and to me, Gaul was too big to be an "area" - I was thinking along the same lines as you.
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I believe our friends who've had Latin class will tell us that the work is a common reading and translation exercise. I think I've come across it as part of a Latin class in some movie or (English-language) literary work (Goodbye, Mr. Chips?)This Is Kirk! wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:30 pmDoes anyone know why the quote is famous in the first place? It seems like a pretty innocuous quote to be one that Caesar is remembered for.
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"Happy families are all alike" is the more usual rendering, I think. But it's a translation from the Russian, so the judges are giving it to you.
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"Back in the day" translating Caesar's Commentaries was a semester-long project for second-year high school Latin. The opening line "Gallia est omnis divisa in partes tres" ("Gaul is a whole divided into three parts") is so close to many English words that it's not too intimidating, and the entire first chapter can be read with about 50% comprehension by someone with no knowledge of Latin besides a strong English vocabulary.davey wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:21 pmI believe our friends who've had Latin class will tell us that the work is a common reading and translation exercise. I think I've come across it as part of a Latin class in some movie or (English-language) literary work (Goodbye, Mr. Chips?)This Is Kirk! wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:30 pmDoes anyone know why the quote is famous in the first place? It seems like a pretty innocuous quote to be one that Caesar is remembered for.
And as Woof mentioned, it's an oft-quoted opening line, almost as familiar as "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times" or "It was a bright cold day in April and the clocks were striking thirteen."
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As a certain game show host would say, "Ooooooooohhhhhh!"Austin Powers wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:18 pm Austin 2 has faced 20 opponents. Among those 20 there's been 3 correct FJ answers.
I knew they weren't doing very well in that area, but had no idea it was that bad. I think I'm 8 or 9 right in the 10 games. Last night was (IMO) a nice job by the writers: Not likely to be a quote anyone had ever read, but enough TOM that you could intuit "Gallic Wars." In other words, the Goldilocks Zone for difficulty: not a 3-way Instaget easy-peasy clue and not ridiculously ungettable; just enough to separate the good contestant(s) from the not-so-good ones.
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Are the judges in agreement that locusts and cicadas are not the same, and that locusts would be negged here? I also said locust.
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"Queequeg! Hurl the harpoon, damnmit!!"Woof wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:19 pmOpening lines are often memorable. Can anyone name another line from Anna Karenina apart from "All happy families are alike" or another line from Moby-Dick apart from "Call me Ishmael?"econgator wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:40 pmIt's no Veni, vidi, vici or Alea iacta est, that's for sure. I suspect it's 'famous' only because Caesar wrote it. If someone else wrote that book, then it wouldn't be remembered at all.This Is Kirk! wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:30 pmDoes anyone know why the quote is famous in the first place? It seems like a pretty innocuous quote to be one that Caesar is remembered for.
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"To the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee."
I still get chills picturing Count Vronsky yelling that at the train.