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TenPoundHammer wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:42 am
This Is Kirk! wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:43 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:46 pm Okay, if I can't for the life of me figure out how to shortcut 1400-592, what should I work my way up to? Or should I just admit defeat in math?
I'd round the 592 to 600. 1400-600 is 800, then add the extra eight for 808.
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600 - 592 = 8. That's the extra eight I'm referring to.
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This is where we're losing me. The problem keeps getting broken down into more and more steps that just feel like way more work.
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TenPoundHammer wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:58 am This is where we're losing me. The problem keeps getting broken down into more and more steps that just feel like way more work.
There are really two steps.
1. Find something close that you can easily do in your head. 1400-600 = 800
2. Add or subtract the amount needed to perform step 1. In this case you had to add 8 to 592 to get to 600, so now add that to the 800 you got in step 1.

If this is too complex, I really don't know what else to say.
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This Is Kirk! wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:03 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:58 am This is where we're losing me. The problem keeps getting broken down into more and more steps that just feel like way more work.
There are really two steps.
1. Find something close that you can easily do in your head. 1400-600 = 800
2. Add or subtract the amount needed to perform step 1. In this case you had to add 8 to 592 to get to 600, so now add that to the 800 you got in step 1.

If this is too complex, I really don't know what else to say.
How do I know to get to step 1 though? How do I know what to change the 592 to?
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TenPoundHammer wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:09 pm How do I know to get to step 1 though? How do I know what to change the 592 to?
This Is Kirk! wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:03 pm If this is too complex, I really don't know what else to say.
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TenPoundHammer wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:09 pm
This Is Kirk! wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:03 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:58 am This is where we're losing me. The problem keeps getting broken down into more and more steps that just feel like way more work.
There are really two steps.
1. Find something close that you can easily do in your head. 1400-600 = 800
2. Add or subtract the amount needed to perform step 1. In this case you had to add 8 to 592 to get to 600, so now add that to the 800 you got in step 1.

If this is too complex, I really don't know what else to say.
How do I know to get to step 1 though? How do I know what to change the 592 to?
What's the number closest to 592 that turns this into arithmetic you can easily do in your head? For me it's 600.
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This Is Kirk! wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:29 pm What's the number closest to 592 that turns this into arithmetic you can easily do in your head?
No such number exists
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I think it's time to create an Official TPH Education Thread (MATH EDITION). I prefer the variety of beating my head against a DIFFERENT wall each time. :D
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Good thing TPH was never on a game show where it would help to be able to do math in your head quickly to see if you have enough money to advance to the bonus round or if you need to get more before you solve a puzzle or something like that.
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"WLT vowels costing $250?"
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TenPoundHammer wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:32 pm
This Is Kirk! wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:29 pm What's the number closest to 592 that turns this into arithmetic you can easily do in your head?
No such number exists
Which of these problems are easier for you?

14-6
140-60
1400-600

14-5.24
140-52.4
1400-524
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1stlvlthinker wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:35 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:32 pm
This Is Kirk! wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:29 pm What's the number closest to 592 that turns this into arithmetic you can easily do in your head?
No such number exists
Which of these problems are easier for you?

14-6
140-60
1400-600

14-5.24
140-52.4
1400-524
None of them
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TenPoundHammer wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:17 pm
1stlvlthinker wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:35 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:32 pm
This Is Kirk! wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:29 pm What's the number closest to 592 that turns this into arithmetic you can easily do in your head?
No such number exists
Which of these problems are easier for you?

14-6
140-60
1400-600

14-5.24
140-52.4
1400-524
None of them
Seriously? You think all of these are equally hard?
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1400-592. Okay, you're rounding that 592 up to some other random number.

But what if it's 1400-572? Or 1400-593? Or 1400-692?
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1stlvlthinker wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:29 pm Seriously? You think all of these are equally hard?
Stop wasting your time.
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econgator wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:01 pm
1stlvlthinker wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:29 pm Seriously? You think all of these are equally hard?
Stop wasting your time.
Yeah i said I would a while back. Oops
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econgator wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:01 pm
1stlvlthinker wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:29 pm Seriously? You think all of these are equally hard?
Stop wasting your time.
So should I stop wasting mine too, since I'm clearly never gonna get this? I literally had to sit down and figure out 592+8 on paper.

That still doesn't answer:
But what if it's 1400-572? Or 1400-593? Or 1400-692?
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TenPoundHammer wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:28 pm
econgator wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:01 pm
1stlvlthinker wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:29 pm Seriously? You think all of these are equally hard?
Stop wasting your time.
So should I stop wasting mine too, since I'm clearly never gonna get this? I literally had to sit down and figure out 592+8 on paper.
I think it would be fair to say that this is not where you're going to learn how to do this. If someone could sit down with you one on one, maybe.
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TenPoundHammer wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 4:28 pm
econgator wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:01 pm
1stlvlthinker wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:29 pm Seriously? You think all of these are equally hard?
Stop wasting your time.
So should I stop wasting mine too, since I'm clearly never gonna get this? I literally had to sit down and figure out 592+8 on paper.

That still doesn't answer:
But what if it's 1400-572? Or 1400-593? Or 1400-692?
IF you want to learn, either fire up some Khan Academy videos or some Sporcle quizzes on subtraction. Practice is the only cure here.
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