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Thursday, January 11, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

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Game Recap for Show #7674, 2018-01-11

Gilbert Collins game 2.
A poorly-worded Final Jeopardy! clue disadvantages a challenger, resulting in her being brought back later in the year.

CONTESTANTS
Rebecca Zoshak, a language specialist from State College, Pennsylvania
Julie Zauzmer, a reporter and balloon twister from Washington, D.C.
Gilbert Collins, a university administrator from Princeton, New Jersey (whose 1-day cash winnings total $8,399)

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Thank you, Johnny. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome, ladies--Rebecca, Julie. Good to have you with us today. We're hoping for an exciting contest that will end up with a big win for one of you three. Good luck. Now the categories in the first round of play today...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
PLUMBING FOR CLUES (2/3)
COLLEGE HOOPS (5/5)
STATE SEALS (4/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
POST "AP"OCALYPSE (5/5) (Alex: The correct response will come after the word "apocalypse" in the dictionary.)
I'M JUST NOT THAT INTO YOU (4/5)
GHOSTING (3/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Gilbert: 13 R (including 1 DD), 0 W
Julie: 6 R, 2 W
Rebecca: 4 R (including 1 rebound), 1 W

Clues revealed: 28
Triple Stumpers: 5
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $3,200



JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Gilbert found the Daily Double on the 10th clue. Gilbert had $3,800, Julie was scoreless, and Rebecca had a deficit with -$400. Gilbert wagered $2,000.

STATE SEALS $1000: Each ray of the large star on its state seal has an emblem of one of the 5 Civilized Tribes

SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Gilbert: $5,800
Julie: $2,000
Rebecca: $600

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: Rebecca Zoshak is from Pennsylvania. Recently, you spent time aboard a tall ship. I wanna hear about it.

Rebecca: I did, yeah. I had the opportunity to train as part of a volunteer crew on a tall ship. Stayed for a couple of weeks and hoisted the mainsail and sung the sea shanties. All that good stuff.

Alex: All right, hoisting the mainsail is one thing. Climbing the rigging--

Rebecca: Sure.

Alex: --is another. Did you have to do that?

Rebecca: I did not go all the way up to the top, nope. Maybe another time.

Alex: Okay, all right. Good for you.




Alex: Julie Zauzmer from Washington, D.C. A reporter and, as we introduced you, a balloon twister.

Julie: That's right.

Alex: What's the most difficult animal to make?

Julie: I have never been a fan of teddy bears. They're little; they shouldn't be hard. I don't like making them. I love making snails. I love making really big things, things that are hundreds or thousands of balloons large.

Alex: Wow.

Julie: But I don't like the little, one-balloon teddy bears that much.

Alex: So you get to perform for other people and you get applause and money for doing this, I hope.

Julie: I do. I do birthday parties, carnivals, all sorts of things every weekend.

Alex: Okay, good. Nice to know.




Alex: Gilbert Collins is our champion, ladies and gentlemen. One of the items on my bucket list is a trip to Botswana. You spent time in that African country. Tell me about it.

Gilbert: I did. I spent four years in Botswana working for the Peace Corps as an administrator, helping run programs dealing with HIV/AIDS and other health concerns in the country.

Alex: So you were paid to spend time in a place that is going to cost me beaucoup bucks.

Gilbert: Maybe you should start working for the Peace Corps.

Alex: Ah.

[Applause]

Alex: Do they have a senior citizen brigade in the Peace Corps?

Gilbert: They might.

Alex: They might? All right.

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
STATE SEALS $800: 8 leaves of this poi-producing plant are on Hawaii's seal
(Rebecca: What is rice?)

GHOSTING $400: This story mentions an apparition "said by some to be the ghost of a Hessian trooper"

GHOSTING $800: A governess is convinced that the 2 children in her care see ghosts in this novella by Henry James

I'M JUST NOT THAT INTO YOU $600: For you, it's got to be roses; I prefer this type of flower that comes in Rembrandt & Greigii varieties
(Julie: What's a daisy?)
...
(Alex: Less than a minute now.)

PLUMBING FOR CLUES $600: This metal alloy is used as a slang term for faucets & other fittings, regardless of the real material used to make them
[The end-of-round signal sounds.]

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Gilbert: $8,000
Julie: $3,600
Rebecca: $800
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DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
MYCOLOGY & MYTHOLOGY (3/5)
EARLY AMERICA (4/5)
EUROPEA"N" GEOGRAPHY (3/5, including 1 missed Daily Double)
BARTLETT'S FAMILIAR QUOTATIONS (4/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
RHYMING PHRASES (3/5)
VINYL RESTING PLACE (2/3)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Rebecca: 8 R (including 2 rebounds), 1 W
Gilbert: 7 R (including 1 rebound and 1 DD), 1 W
Julie: 4 R, 2 W (including 1 DD)

Clues revealed: 28
Triple Stumpers: 8
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $12,800



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Julie snagged the next Daily Double on the 14th clue. Gilbert had $10,000, Julie had $4,400, and Rebecca was at $4,800. Julie wagered $3,000.

EUROPEA"N" GEOGRAPHY $1200: This city is about 20 miles northeast of Cannes via the N98 coastal road
(Julie: Uh... what is Nantes?)

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Gilbert who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 23rd clue. Gilbert had $12,400, Julie had $3,400, and Rebecca was at $6,800. Gilbert wagered $2,000.

BARTLETT'S FAMILIAR QUOTATIONS $1200: In 1798 he told his men, "From the summit of yonder pyramids forty centuries look down upon you"

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
RHYMING PHRASES $800: A full-length monster movie

RHYMING PHRASES $1600: A heroic defender, specifically of a company facing a hostile takeover

MYCOLOGY & MYTHOLOGY $1600: This Welsh queen of mythical creatures rules over the Ellyllon, elflike creatures that eat toadstools

MYCOLOGY & MYTHOLOGY $2000: Long before "Brave New World", this 4-letter liquid of Hindu mythology might have come from mushrooms

EUROPEA"N" GEOGRAPHY $2000: (Kelly of the Clue Crew shows a map on the monitor.) Lake Ladoga is connected with the Gulf of Finland and the rest of the Baltic Sea by this commercially important river that flows through St. Petersburg

EARLY AMERICA $2000: After he died in 1656, Josiah Winslow succeeded him as the commander of Plymouth Colony's military forces

BARTLETT'S FAMILIAR QUOTATIONS $2000: Bartlett's quotes this author:
"Mother died today, or maybe it was yesterday"

VINYL RESTING PLACE $800: In the '50s the Dukes of Dixieland were one of the first to record their albums with this new dual audio process

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Gilbert: $14,800
Rebecca: $7,600
Julie: $3,800

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
THE MOVIES

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Crush for first place.
Gilbert: Wager $401 to cover Rebecca, but no more than $7,199 so as not to fall behind Julie's doubled score.
Rebecca: You have the hope of surpassing Gilbert if you come up with the correct response. Bet at least $7,201 to force Gilbert to wager to win while also protecting your position from being usurped by Julie.
Julie: Unfortunately, your score is less than the difference between the scores of the first and second place players, so unless they both blunder, you're competing for second place and have no hopes of first. Wager as much as you desire, but remember, you'll have better chances of advancing to second place if you have a larger sum left over on a Triple Stumper.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
It's the first Oscar nominee for Best Picture to be produced by an internet streaming service

FINAL SCORES
Julie: $3,800 + $3,798 = $7,598 (What is Manchester by the Sea?) (2nd place: $2,000)
Rebecca: $7,600 - $7,575 = $25 (What is ?) (3rd place: $1,000)
Gilbert: $14,800 - $401 = $14,399 (What is the Social Network?) (2-day champion: $22,798)
(Alex: [To Julie] It was produced by Amazon.)
...
(Alex: [In an added segment after the round ended] A word about today's Final Jeopardy!, ladies and gentlemen. We could have been a little more precise with our wording. We should have indicated that Manchester by the Sea was distributed by a streaming service, not produced by one. The contestant who was affected by this has been invited back and will appear with us again later this year.)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $16,000

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Gilbert: $13,000, 20 R (including 2 DDs), 1 W
Rebecca: $7,600, 12 R, 2 W
Julie: $6,800, 10 R, 4 W (including 1 DD)
Combined Coryat: $27,400

BATTING AVERAGES
Gilbert: 20/60 = .333
Rebecca: 12/58 = .207
Julie: 11/59 = .186
Team: 43/63 = .683

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
COLLEGE HOOPS $1000: This Spokane, Wa. Jesuit school made its first appearance in the NCAA final game in 2017, but came up a tad short
[Applause for Gilbert running the category]

POST "AP"OCALYPSE $600: This French word describes a fabric design that is fastened to another piece of material

GHOSTING $200: Stave 1 of "A Christmas Carol" is called his "Ghost"
(Julie: Who is the Ghost of Christmas Past?)

MYCOLOGY & MYTHOLOGY $800: Teonanacatl, "flesh of the gods", was a mushroom sacred to these Mesoamerican people
(Gilbert: Who are the Mayas?)

MYCOLOGY & MYTHOLOGY $1200: This circle of mushrooms is named for the magic creatures said to dance there

EARLY AMERICA $1600: His sermon "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God" helped fire the 18th century's Great Awakening religious movement

BARTLETT'S FAMILIAR QUOTATIONS $1600: This "wish"ful line from "Brokeback Mountain" is Annie Proulx' entry in Bartlett's
(Alex: Less than a minute now.)

VINYL RESTING PLACE $400: One of the first LP records pressed in 1931 was of the Philadelphia Orchestra playing this work
(Rebecca: What is Beethoven's Ninth?)

VINYL RESTING PLACE $1200: A recent vinyl resurgence has been aided by this musician, who built a pressing plant in his Detroit hometown
(Julie: Who is Eminem?)
...
[The end-of-round signal sounds.]

CORRECT RESPONSES
Oklahoma
taro
"The Legend of Sleepy Hollow"
The Turn of the Screw
tulips
brass
Nice
Napoleon
a creature feature
a white knight
Queen Mab
soma
the Neva
Myles Standish
Albert Camus
stereo
Manchester by the Sea
Gonzaga
appliqué
Marley
the Aztec
a fairy circle (or fairy ring)
(Jonathan) Edwards
"I wish I knew how to quit you"
Beethoven's Fifth
Jack White
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FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
THE MOVIES

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
It’s the first Oscar nominee for Best Picture to be produced by an Internet streaming service

Gilbert Collins: 14800-401=14399 (2x = $22,798)
Julie Zauzmer: 3800+3798=7598
Rebecca Zoshak: 7600-7575= 25

Correct response:
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Manchester by the Sea (Gilbert – The Social Network) (Rebecca – What is?)

Daily Doubles
Gilbert: 3800+2000
Julie: 4400-3000
Gilbert: 12400+2000

Coryats
Gilbert: 13000
Julie: 6800
Rebecca: 7600

Combined: 27,400

Scores at the end of the Jeopardy! Round:
Gilbert: 8000
Julie: 3600
Rebecca: 800
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A balloon twister definitely goes in the J! occupation hall of fame.

Nice run by Gilbert in COLLEGE HOOPS to open the game and earn the applause. Unlike others who have had the opening 5/5 in a good category and then run into problems, Gilbert scored on plenty of other clues.

It’s sad when “only” four clues left hidden is considered improvement.

The combination of movie, Internet service and Best Picture nominee left me with no doubt what to write. The early start left me plenty of time as that is a title I would not want to solve with time almost up.

This is the clip for Alex’s explanation at the end:
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So can I count this as a get on the poll, even though I’ve never heard of it? :lol:
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Well, ya gotta root for a balloon twister. Congrats to Julie for solving FJ. I answered the same as Gilbert, just to put something down. Did their inaccurate FJ wording really prevent Rebecca from giving the desired response? Rebecca, are you out there? Better luck next time around. (I still want Wilbur back, too!)
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I'm curious to see if Alex will be wearing the outfit with the red tie tomorrow indicating the powers found the problem with the FJ! clue in between the taping of the Thursday & Friday games or if that outfit occurs at a later time indicating perhaps Rebecca brought something to the attention of the producers.

Either way Rebecca gets to play again even if she had no idea on the FJ! clue and was in no way thrown by the wording. Or it could be Rebecca knows a lot about current movies, studios, producers etc. and knew the correct response did not wholly fit the clue's wording. It happens with the return invitation occurring for various reasons.

Julie gets the sole solve and $2K for second for her troubles.

The surnames in today's game had 3 Zs. Now I have to look to see if Leszek Pawlowicz ever played a Z person. :)
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I've never heard of Manchester by the Sea. My guess was the same as Gilbert's.
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No guess at all. I've heard of the movie, but had no clue it was associated with a streaming service.
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I was aware that Manchester by the Sea had something to do with Amazon, and I streamed it using that service, so I got this one.

I was going to say the Camus quote was overvalued, but it was a triple stumper so maybe not.

I also don't think Eminem and Jack White look very similar.
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Julie definitely missed that it was a video clue. She is pointing toward the photo screen and commenting to Rebecca at the end when the category is being revealed, seemingly having just realized that there was a photo. Julie was at the table right in front of me during our audition... super nice girl, was hoping she'd have a better showing :(
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29 R
DD: 2/3 (Nice, Napoleon)
FJ: :(
LT: The Legend of Sleepy Hollow, The Turn of the Screw, Tulip, (Nice), Neva, Miles Standish, Albert Camus
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I really like Gilbert. He is not flashy, no shtick to distract and make the show all about himself, no tics or interjections - just clear, crisp clue requests and responses, a pleasant demeanor, and a wide knowledge base. I don't know how long he'll be around, but I'll take someone like him over an Austin Rodgers any day, even though I suppose Austin would drink Gilbert's milkshake one-on-one. Keep on keeping on, Gilbert!
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ran Post "Ap"ocalypse. Disappointed that Vinyl Resting Place was not finished.
trash pickup on Legend of Sleepy Hollow, white knight, Mab, Soma, Nice DD, Neva, and Stereo.
Never heard of Manchester by the Sea and likely never will again. :x
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squarekara wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:30 pm Well, ya gotta root for a balloon twister. Congrats to Julie for solving FJ. I answered the same as Gilbert, just to put something down. Did their inaccurate FJ wording really prevent Rebecca from giving the desired response? Rebecca, are you out there? Better luck next time around. (I still want Wilbur back, too!)
Sorry, they can't bring back contestants who started writing their Final response too late and thus didn't have time to finish, i.e. Wilbur; unlike Rebecca's case, the results on Wilbur's show still stand, and no amount of hissy fits will convince the production staff to bring him back.
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VicGChad07 wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:44 pm
squarekara wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:30 pm Well, ya gotta root for a balloon twister. Congrats to Julie for solving FJ. I answered the same as Gilbert, just to put something down. Did their inaccurate FJ wording really prevent Rebecca from giving the desired response? Rebecca, are you out there? Better luck next time around. (I still want Wilbur back, too!)
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DBear wrote: Disappointed that Vinyl Resting Place was not finished.

Never heard of Manchester by the Sea and likely never will again. :x
Yeah, I didn't know that was going to be about vinyl records until they finally started revealing the clues. Figures.

My enthusiasm for the FJ category was quickly disolved when it turned out to be something out of the internet age. No chance for me on that one.
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DBear wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:44 pm Never heard of Manchester by the Sea and likely never will again. :x
Yeah, I will probably never see this movie, but I'm aware of it due to some alleged misbehavior by Casey Affleck that hit the news at the same time the movie was garnering awards.
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Surprised to hear some of you have never heard of Manchester by the Sea, as it was just nominated last year

Wonder why they didn't call the FJ category THE OSCARS?

Didn't know this one. Was struggling to decide between Beasts of the Southern Wild and Beasts of No Nation

So what was the first film produced by a streaming service to be nominated for Best Picture? I can't find it online
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morbeedo wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:22 pm So what was the first film produced by a streaming service to be nominated for Best Picture? I can't find it online
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