The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

This is where all of the games are discussed.

Moderators: alietr, trainman, econgator, dhkendall

User avatar
MarkBarrett
Watches Jeopardy! Way Too Much
Posts: 11407
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:37 am
Location: San Francisco

Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by MarkBarrett »

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:00 am
I just had no idea what to even guess. There are like, four trillion countries in Africa and I see no way to noodle your way through this in 30 seconds unless you're inhumanly fast.
The clue seems to 8/9 as of this point.

For what to guess as far as J! purposes? East Africa & Italy = Ethiopia seems common:
Spoiler

#7357, aired 2016-09-13 SUDAN IMPACT $2000: In 1940 this nation's troops invaded Sudan from Ethiopia; they were kicked out in 1941
#7353, aired 2016-07-27 TIME'S PERSON OF THE YEAR $1000: 1935: Ethiopia's king fought an incursion by Italy's strongman, Mussolini
#6973, aired 2014-12-31 MILITARY MISTAKES $400: In 1896 an Ethiopian army defeated a force from this nation that had launched an ill-advised night attack
#6115, aired 2011-03-25 IN WHICH DECADE $1600: Italy conquers Ethiopia
#5655, aired 2009-03-20 KINGS $9,000 (Daily Double): A busy guy, he was King of Italy (1900 to 1946), Emperor of Ethiopia (1936 to 1941) & King of Albania (1939 to 1943)
#5627, aired 2009-02-10 THE 1930s $800: In 1936 Haile Selassie asked this world body for sanctions against Italy, which had invaded Ethiopia in 1935
#5151, aired 2007-01-22 I FIND THAT HAILE SELASSIE $800: In 1936 Selassie went into Exile in this country, which in 1941 helped Ethiopian forces recapture their home capital
#4495, aired 2004-03-05 INTO AFRICA $400: Italy invaded this north African country in 1911 & took control in 1912
#4390, aired 2003-10-10 THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS $5,000 (Daily Double): This emperor pleaded for help but the League did nothing to stop Italy's 1935 invasion of his country
#4262, aired 2003-02-25 COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD $800: In 1993 Eritrea formally declared its independence from this country
#4219, aired 2002-12-26 A MESS O' MUSSOLINI $1,000 (Daily Double): With big dreams of restoring the Roman Empire, Mussolini had Italy invade this African country in 1935
#4169, aired 2002-10-17 INVASIONS $2000: One of the last European conquests on the African continent began with Italy's 1935 invasion of this country
#3662, aired 2000-07-04 INDEPENDENCE! $400: In 1896, after losing a war Italy was forced to recognize the independence of this African country
#3329, aired 1999-02-11 THERE GOES THE EMPIRE $100: This nation colonized part of Somalia in the 19th century & invaded Ethiopia in the 20th
#2905, aired 1997-03-28 AFRICAN HISTORY $600: Italy's 1935 invasion of this country was the last European conquest on the continent
#2844, aired 1997-01-02 THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS $200: After Italy invaded Ethiopia in 1935, this emperor made a vain plea for the league's help
#2757, aired 1996-09-03 WORLD HISTORY $400: In 1936 Italy conquered this Ethiopian capital & Haile Selassie fled to Great Britain
#2055, aired 1993-07-09 HISTORY $600: On October 3, 1935 this country invaded Ethiopia
#1245, aired 1990-01-19 1889 $600: Italy claimed the Treaty of Uccialli established a protectorate over this African nation
#1007, aired 1989-01-10 WORLD HISTORY $1,000 (Daily Double): Wars between Italy & this African country broke out in 1887, 1895 & 1935
#754, aired 1987-12-10 WORLD WAR II $400: After the war, this country paid $100 million in reparations to Russia, but only $25 million to Ethiopia
#641, aired 1987-05-25 THE 1930s $1000: In October 1935, Roosevelt said "A state of war unhappily exists" between Italy & this country
The question is if you had known Ethiopia was the place would you have known Addis Ababa is the capital?

User avatar
TenPoundHammer
Otters are meant to swim
Posts: 8459
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:59 pm
Location: Michigan
Contact:

Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by TenPoundHammer »

MarkBarrett wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:08 am
The question is if you had known Ethiopia was the place would you have known Addis Ababa is the capital?
I do know that Addis Ababa is in Ethiopia. But again, Africa has about a bajillion countries, and I have no idea where on the continent it is. I also didn't know that Italy had ever done ANYthing in Africa.
Ten Pound Hammer

This space for rent

1stlvlthinker
Watches Jeopardy! Way Too Much
Posts: 504
Joined: Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:01 am

Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by 1stlvlthinker »

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:12 am
MarkBarrett wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:08 am
The question is if you had known Ethiopia was the place would you have known Addis Ababa is the capital?
I do know that Addis Ababa is in Ethiopia. But again, Africa has about a bajillion countries, and I have no idea where on the continent it is. I also didn't know that Italy had ever done ANYthing in Africa.
Learning the names of a few countries in each region of Africa would be a good start.
Now swimming in the J! pool.

User avatar
TenPoundHammer
Otters are meant to swim
Posts: 8459
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:59 pm
Location: Michigan
Contact:

Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by TenPoundHammer »

1stlvlthinker wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:59 pm
Learning the names of a few countries in each region of Africa would be a good start.

I know the names of at least some of the countries, but not their locations other than "South Africa is probably somewhere to the south".
Ten Pound Hammer

This space for rent

User avatar
alietr
Site Admin
Posts: 7276
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2011 1:20 pm
Location: Bethesda, MD

Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by alietr »

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:55 pm
1stlvlthinker wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:59 pm
Learning the names of a few countries in each region of Africa would be a good start.

I know the names of at least some of the countries, but not their locations other than "South Africa is probably somewhere to the south".
Fine. You know some of them. Why complain to us when you don't know the rest?

User avatar
TenPoundHammer
Otters are meant to swim
Posts: 8459
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:59 pm
Location: Michigan
Contact:

Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by TenPoundHammer »

Any reason I should know what kind of lettuce is used in a Caesar salad?
Ten Pound Hammer

This space for rent

User avatar
MarkBarrett
Watches Jeopardy! Way Too Much
Posts: 11407
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:37 am
Location: San Francisco

Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by MarkBarrett »

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:29 pm
Any reason I should know what kind of lettuce is used in a Caesar salad?
Only the usual one of repetition:

#7238, aired 2016-02-17 YOUR 5-COURSE MEAL $200: Let's start you out with a salad--this one classically made with romaine lettuce, croutons & anchovies
#7007, aired 2015-02-17 A HAMBURGER WITH ALL THE FIXINGS $200: Let's start with the lettuce--this kind that's traditionally in a Caesar salad
#6129, aired 2011-04-14 SOUP & SALAD $200: This salad that features romaine lettuce & grated cheese is said to be named for Mr. Cardini, not a certain Julius
#6113, aired 2011-03-23 MIXED GREENS $2000: Caesar salad is made with it: auctioneer melt
#5570, aired 2008-11-21 FOOD FOR THOUGHT $800: All hail this type of salad made with romaine lettuce, croutons & anchovies
#4826, aired 2005-09-12 "AIN" DROPS $200: Lettuce fit for a Caesar
#4417, aired 2003-11-18 STARTS WITH "R" $800: Also known as Cos lettuce, it's traditionally found in Caesar salad
#3961, aired 2001-11-19 GOOD EATS $100: For starters, hail this dish made of romaine lettuce, grated cheese, croutons & anchovies
#3661, aired 2000-07-03 FRUITS & VEGETABLES $200: Traditionally you make a Caesar salad with this type of lettuce
#1752, aired 1992-03-24 SALAD DAYS $500: This type of lettuce is used to make a Caesar salad

**********
For garbanzo: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2423&p=141523p141523#p141523

By coincidence that game had a Bible related FJ! clue as well.

User avatar
Volante
Harbinger of the Doomed Lemur
Posts: 7344
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:42 pm
Contact:

Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by Volante »

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:29 pm
Any reason I should know what kind of lettuce is used in a Caesar salad?
Because there was just a MASSIVE romaine lettuce recall, and many sources lamented the lack of Caesar salads
https://www.indystar.com/story/news/201 ... 123208002/
The best thing that Neil Armstrong ever did, was to let us all imagine we were him.
Latest movies (1-10): What Dreams May Come (8), Parasite (10), Gods and Generals (6), Sausage Party (8)

seaborgium
Undefeated in Reruns
Posts: 7104
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:31 am

Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by seaborgium »

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:29 pm
Any reason I should know what kind of lettuce is used in a Caesar salad?
The Caesars were Roman...

Elijah Baley
Watches Jeopardy! Way Too Much
Posts: 1045
Joined: Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:27 pm

Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by Elijah Baley »

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:55 pm
1stlvlthinker wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:59 pm
Learning the names of a few countries in each region of Africa would be a good start.

I know the names of at least some of the countries, but not their locations other than "South Africa is probably somewhere to the south".
Unfortunately, Jeopardy does require some memorization. Africa does have 50+ countries so every one of those capitals probably isn't going to be on the tips of everyone's tongues. But knowing Africa is just a fraction of it; it's obvious that the show expects contestants to know pretty much every world capital - I'm guessing most of them have shown up over the years. And to be at least somewhat familiar with where they are and maybe a tiny bit of their history.

Whether everyone watching would have that kind of info - unlikely. But they certainly expect contestants to have put in that work ahead of time so it's all fair game. Kind of what one should expect for a show about trivia where geography has shown up often.

User avatar
TenPoundHammer
Otters are meant to swim
Posts: 8459
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:59 pm
Location: Michigan
Contact:

Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by TenPoundHammer »

seaborgium wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:21 am
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:29 pm
Any reason I should know what kind of lettuce is used in a Caesar salad?
The Caesars were Roman...
I thought they were Little.
Ten Pound Hammer

This space for rent

seaborgium
Undefeated in Reruns
Posts: 7104
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:31 am

Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by seaborgium »

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:13 pm
seaborgium wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:21 am
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:29 pm
Any reason I should know what kind of lettuce is used in a Caesar salad?
The Caesars were Roman...
I thought they were Little.
I was going to say that only one was, but then I realized the pizza chain doesn't have an apostrophe in its name.

User avatar
TenPoundHammer
Otters are meant to swim
Posts: 8459
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:59 pm
Location: Michigan
Contact:

Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by TenPoundHammer »

So how many billions of miles am I gonna have to trek to find a caesar salad anyway?
Ten Pound Hammer

This space for rent

User avatar
Andromus
Watches Jeopardy! Way Too Much
Posts: 564
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 8:42 pm

Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by Andromus »

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:28 pm
So how many billions of miles am I gonna have to trek to find a caesar salad anyway?
They're not exotic. Try your local grocery store, or even some fast food restaurants (Wendys, for one). Also, a casual chain place like Red Lobster.

User avatar
Volante
Harbinger of the Doomed Lemur
Posts: 7344
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:42 pm
Contact:

Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by Volante »

Andromus wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:55 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:28 pm
So how many billions of miles am I gonna have to trek to find a caesar salad anyway?
They're not exotic. Try your local grocery store, or even some fast food restaurants (Wendys, for one). Also, a casual chain place like Red Lobster.
But maybe wait a few months. I know last time I went to Wendy's (Saturday) they still weren't back on the menu.
The best thing that Neil Armstrong ever did, was to let us all imagine we were him.
Latest movies (1-10): What Dreams May Come (8), Parasite (10), Gods and Generals (6), Sausage Party (8)

User avatar
twelvefootboy
Watches Jeopardy! Way Too Much
Posts: 1781
Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:18 pm
Location: Tornado Alley / Southwest Missouri

Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by twelvefootboy »

Andromus wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:55 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:28 pm
So how many billions of miles am I gonna have to trek to find a caesar salad anyway?
They're not exotic. Try your local grocery store, or even some fast food restaurants (Wendys, for one). Also, a casual chain place like Red Lobster.
Here's another place
https://www.mcdonalds.com/ca/en-ca/prod ... salad.html

They are OK, same as spinach salad is OK if you have 4 stomachs and time to chew your cud. I prefer a non-nutritious iceberg lettuce with mostly the white part of the leaf.
Disclaimer - repeated exposure to author's musings may cause befuddlement.

User avatar
TenPoundHammer
Otters are meant to swim
Posts: 8459
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:59 pm
Location: Michigan
Contact:

Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by TenPoundHammer »

Andromus wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:55 pm
They're not exotic. Try your local grocery store, or even some fast food restaurants (Wendys, for one). Also, a casual chain place like Red Lobster.
I was just at the grocery store and they didn't have them.
Volante wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:36 pm
But maybe wait a few months. I know last time I went to Wendy's (Saturday) they still weren't back on the menu.
I have forever sworn off Wendy's because I get shockingly horrible service and ice-cold, bland, sloppy, improperly made food at literally every single one I've ever been to.
twelvefootboy wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:01 pm
Here's another place
https://www.mcdonalds.com/ca/en-ca/prod ... salad.html

They are OK, same as spinach salad is OK if you have 4 stomachs and time to chew your cud. I prefer a non-nutritious iceberg lettuce with mostly the white part of the leaf.
The one I work at doesn't sell them and never has.
Ten Pound Hammer

This space for rent

Elijah Baley
Watches Jeopardy! Way Too Much
Posts: 1045
Joined: Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:27 pm

Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by Elijah Baley »

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:30 pm

Criminal law is a thing?
Ok, I'll bite. What is confusing about the concept of criminal law? You've heard of police, prosecutors, judges, courtrooms, juries, jails, "You have the right to remain silent," heard of a show called "Law & Order," etc.?

User avatar
TenPoundHammer
Otters are meant to swim
Posts: 8459
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 2:59 pm
Location: Michigan
Contact:

Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by TenPoundHammer »

Elijah Baley wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:04 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:30 pm

Criminal law is a thing?
Ok, I'll bite. What is confusing about the concept of criminal law? You've heard of police, prosecutors, judges, courtrooms, juries, jails, "You have the right to remain silent," heard of a show called "Law & Order," etc.?
I have, but I didn't know that it had a specific all-encompassing term.
Ten Pound Hammer

This space for rent

User avatar
Volante
Harbinger of the Doomed Lemur
Posts: 7344
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:42 pm
Contact:

Re: The Official TPH Education Thread (POTENTIAL GAME DAY SPOILERS)

Post by Volante »

TenPoundHammer wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:10 pm
Elijah Baley wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:04 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:30 pm

Criminal law is a thing?
Ok, I'll bite. What is confusing about the concept of criminal law? You've heard of police, prosecutors, judges, courtrooms, juries, jails, "You have the right to remain silent," heard of a show called "Law & Order," etc.?
I have, but I didn't know that it had a specific all-encompassing term.
It's half-encompassing where 'law' is concerned. The other part is civil law.
The best thing that Neil Armstrong ever did, was to let us all imagine we were him.
Latest movies (1-10): What Dreams May Come (8), Parasite (10), Gods and Generals (6), Sausage Party (8)

Post Reply