New old games in the J! Archive

[MinnesotaMyron]

I not before E?

Except after, see?

[MarkBarrett]

I added 2/16/93 Teen Tournament QF2: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6377

Player pics of Scott Steiger, Chris Dobbertean, & Anne Black:

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Scott’s first board mention was here; viewtopic.php?f=1&t=189&p=3075#p3075

Note: Chris is Dobbertean not Dobberstean as shown here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeopardy!_Teen_Tournament

Tough year for WC with 10,000 last in. Usually 25R like Scott had would lock up a spot in the semis.

Any ToCer would want to make sure they know DD3.

[MarkBarrett]

I added 5/4/94 College Championship QF3: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6380

Player pics of Martin Poteralski, Elizabeth Lizotte & Dave Goldsmith:

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[MarkBarrett]

I added 5/11/88 (Seniors QF3): http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6382

Player pics of Fran Kirchhof, Katie O’Callaghan & Bob Winthrop:

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Color was not working well on the tape at the point of introductions.

Is Bob the guy that qualified for the semis and was then disqualified? Someone posted something like that about a player somewhere as I recall. Tom Wickham from QF1 was 7400+400=7800 and made semis while Bob at 9800-2000=7800 did not so I’m thinking he must be the guy.

[seaborgium]

I added 5/11/88 (Seniors QF3): http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6382

Player pics of Fran Kirchhof, Katie O’Callaghan & Bob Winthrop:

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Color was not working well on the tape at the point of introductions.

Is Bob the guy that qualified for the semis and was then disqualified? Someone posted something like that about a player somewhere as I recall. Tom Wickham from QF1 was 7400+400=7800 and made semis while Bob at 9800-2000=7800 did not so I’m thinking he must be the guy.

The AP article calls "D. J. Smith" (a business analyst, apparently from Garland, TX) the disqualified contestant, but the year matches up. https://www.apnews.com/96ff37aa0cb424c0e2a294122718a722

edit: perhaps Bob's failure to make the semis reflects a different rule at the time (or an ad hoc rule) for how to deal with a tie for the last wild card spot. For example, maybe they decided that since Tom got his FJ right and Bob didn't, Tom was more worthy.

[MarkBarrett]

I added 2/15/90 Teen Tournament F1: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6383

Player pics of Jamie Weiss & Andrew McGeorge (Richard Morris pic already posted):

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Sg: Thanks for the post above. I checked my tape and I do not have Senior 1988 QF5 in which Mr. Smith would have to play & that would also have the semifinalists lined up at the end. I am also missing 8 or 9 clues from the beginning of SF1 that may have an explanation at the beginning. Tom Wickham is in SF3 so perhaps something is said then when I get to it.

Getting the FJ! clue right vs. missing it as a factor to break a tie is interesting and not something I've heard previously.

[Robert K S]

What is the rule today to resolve last-wildcard-slot ties?

[AndyTheQuizzer]

What is the rule today to resolve last-wildcard-slot ties?

Point 3 here: https://www.jeopardy.com/jbuzz/behind-s ... -scenarios

[Robert K S]

Ah, yes, now I remember Alex's spiel at the end of those quarterfinals ("...then we go back...!"). Tom did have a lower DJ! score than Bob ($7,400 vs. $9,800), so obviously that rule was not yet in place.

[MarkBarrett]

I added 2/15/93 Teen Tournament QF1: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6385

Player pics of Carrie Pruett, Brent Keeling & Jessi Gile:

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Scoreboard errors happen although I was surprised to run into one from a 1993 game. On clue 29 of the DJ! round Jessi’s score went from 400 to 1300 after she got the $800 clue correct. That 1300 remained through the FJ! round without being caught. She missed the FJ! clue to go down to 100 after wagering 1200. Fortunately, none of it mattered for wildcards.

I included notes for the problem. Robert, you can advise me if there is a better way to handle it or if there is some adjustment you can make to the game. Jessi's final score is $100 and not the $0 I have in the system.

[Robert K S]

I included notes for the problem. Robert, you can advise me if there is a better way to handle it or if there is some adjustment you can make to the game. Jessi's final score is $100 and not the $0 I have in the system.

Rather than trying to edit clue values to give Jessi undue money, I think the best thing to do would be to note the discrepancy, as you have done, in both the clue where the error happened and in FJ! I think this is our standard practice for scoreboard errors.

[MinnesotaMyron]

I added 2/15/93 Teen Tournament QF1: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6385

Player pics of Carrie Pruett, Brent Keeling & Jessi Gile:

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Scoreboard errors happen although I was surprised to run into one from a 1993 game. On clue 29 of the DJ! round Jessi’s score went from 400 to 1300 after she got the $800 clue correct. That 1300 remained through the FJ! round without being caught. She missed the FJ! clue to go down to 100 after wagering 1200. Fortunately, none of it mattered for wildcards.

I included notes for the problem. Robert, you can advise me if there is a better way to handle it or if there is some adjustment you can make to the game. Jessi's final score is $100 and not the $0 I have in the system.

$900 is a weird amount to get credited. The dollar values must not have been preprogrammed into the scoring system.

[Robert K S]

I thought the same thing--but my understanding is that the -/+ amounts were easy-to press buttons. So something really weird happened here.

[MarkBarrett]

I thought the same thing--but my understanding is that the -/+ amounts were easy-to press buttons. So something really weird happened here.

Yes, weird, because by S9 that kind of error should not happen. Thanks for adjusting the wording in the appropriate places to reflect what happened.

[jlgarfield]

I thought the same thing--but my understanding is that the -/+ amounts were easy-to press buttons. So something really weird happened here.

On that note, I've always wondered what the scoreboard operating machine is like, or what it looks like.

[MarkBarrett]

I added 5/4/95 College Championship QF4: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6387

Player pics of Nancy Lishaa, Todd Kunkel, and Sandra Cha:

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I added a line to Todd’s bio for his appearance on WWTBAM.

Sandra sarcastically says to Jeff, “Yeah, thanks a lot for requesting this game.” Those who automatically root against Ivy Leaguers or like seeing them fail will enjoy it.

Where does 38R by Todd stand on the list of correct responses in any tournament game?

Today ends the Jeopardy! season and I am going to take a little J! break after the poll tomorrow to work on some other things. 230 consecutive weekdays and 46 Saturdays is a lot of J! posting. Throw in the game archiving and even I can use a week off here and there.

In August I will try to archive a minimum of 15 more games as I continue with the request list.

[threearruda]

I added 5/4/95 College Championship QF4: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6387

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Where does 38R by Todd stand on the list of correct responses in any tournament game?

Today ends the Jeopardy! season and I am going to take a little J! break after the poll tomorrow to work on some other things. 230 consecutive weekdays and 46 Saturdays is a lot of J! posting. Throw in the game archiving and even I can use a week off here and there.

In August I will try to archive a minimum of 15 more games as I continue with the request list.

That might be a record, as far as I'm concerned (not cheezguyty though, LOL).

Josh Levy's 37 ('99 CC semi) was as close as I could come up with off the top of my head. For teens, Akiva Fox put up 36 in his Teen QF, and Brad's legendary '01 ToC quarters performance saw him rack up 36.

A couple other blowouts I know of topped out in the low-mid 30s.

I'd imagine that those 35R+ totals in tournament play all exist around the late '90s period - that type of buzzer dominance just doesn't seem to happen in modern tournament play (as evidenced by the fact that almost all of the other games I thought of occurred before 2010).

[LucarioSnooperVixey]

That might be a record, as far as I'm concerned (not cheezguyty though, LOL).

Josh Levy's 37 ('99 CC semi) was as close as I could come up with off the top of my head. For teens, Akiva Fox put up 36 in his Teen QF, and Brad's legendary '01 ToC quarters performance saw him rack up 36.

A couple other blowouts I know of topped out in the low-mid 30s.

I'd imagine that those 35R+ totals in tournament play all exist around the late '90s period - that type of buzzer dominance just doesn't seem to happen in modern tournament play (as evidenced by the fact that almost all of the other games I thought of occurred before 2010).

Roger Craig's ToC QF was also 36R. That was 2011.

[MarkBarrett]

For next week I am lining up the games to archive. When I enter a new person into the Archive I have to include how they did in the tournament. I have notes and of course the tapes while often I find it easier to recall if a player was QF only, semifinalist or finalist by looking at the Wikipedia article for the College and Teen players. Seniors not available is old news.

Today the college page looked different to me with a lot of the player information year by year gone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeopardy! ... ampionship

while in July I could look at let's say 1993 and see the player names and which round they made it to

Who, what, where, when why?

[MinnesotaMyron]

For next week I am lining up the games to archive. When I enter a new person into the Archive I have to include how they did in the tournament. I have notes and of course the tapes while often I find it easier to recall if a player was QF only, semifinalist or finalist by looking at the Wikipedia article for the College and Teen players. Seniors not available is old news.

Today the college page looked different to me with a lot of the player information year by year gone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeopardy! ... ampionship

while in July I could look at let's say 1993 and see the player names and which round they made it to

Who, what, where, when why?

Some wiki editor has a bee in their bonnet about it not being sourced, per the revision history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti ... =908323989

This link will take you to an older version of the page, with the names you seek.