All three contestants rang in with the incorrect responses of scuba diver, lifeguard, and underwater welder. The correct response wasDrowning is the most common death for those doing this, the most dangerous job in the U.S. as per a 2019 newspaper report
"A Big Statistic" for $400 poll (10/14/19 spoiler)
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"A Big Statistic" for $400 poll (10/14/19 spoiler)
The clue in "A Big Statistic" for $400 read:
I'm curious to see what the spread was for negs on this, since I too said "lifeguard".
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Re: "A Big Statistic" for $400 poll (10/14/19 spoiler)
Well, 'fisherman' but close enough to right.
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Clam for me. It was a perfect storm of no idea what to guess as I've never seen the Clooney movie or Deadliest Catch. Or any form of Baywatch. Or been swimming or fishing since the Reagan administration. This clue seems like one that will have way more negs/clams than gets and I think it's great to settle it all before Saturday as I like one-day pop-ups.
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Re: "A Big Statistic" for $400 poll (10/14/19 spoiler)
would crab fishing have been accepted? or too specific?
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Re: "A Big Statistic" for $400 poll (10/14/19 spoiler)
Like Erin I said underwater welder. Not sure why the audience thought it was funny because it is a very dangerous job.
Plenty of references out there stating that it is one of the, if not the most dangerous jobs. For example: https://kmhk.com/the-five-deadliest-jobs-in-america/
Plenty of references out there stating that it is one of the, if not the most dangerous jobs. For example: https://kmhk.com/the-five-deadliest-jobs-in-america/
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Re: "A Big Statistic" for $400 poll (10/14/19 spoiler)
i didn't get the laughter either...scuba diver was the worst of the 3 since it isn't necessarily a job...now if she said rock star playing for sharks (kiss will be doing that later this year) then i can see how it could have come off as being funnyThis Is Kirk! wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:27 am Like Erin I said underwater welder. Not sure why the audience thought it was funny because it is a very dangerous job.
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Re: "A Big Statistic" for $400 poll (10/14/19 spoiler)
IMHO it almost has to count. They can't fault you for trying to point it toward deep sea / ocean fishing vs. the recreational counterparts. For all we know, crab fishing by itself it might be the most dangerous occupation.CasketRomance wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:52 pm would crab fishing have been accepted? or too specific?
I couldn't organize an attack on this one in real time. I don't like the "most dangerous" descriptor. When it comes to homicide deaths, I think convenience store clerk was far more dangerous than law enforcement for several years. I'm sure if you go by lost time, there will be a lot of other candidates. How about pro football player?
It was a great clue. It is a bit of a twist to think about drowning on the job. Of course electricians are at risk for sudden death syndrome all the time.
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I've heard the fact quoted before that fishing was the most dangerous occupation, so the mention of drowning confirmed my reflexive response.
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twelvefootboy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:54 amI couldn't organize an attack on this one in real time. I don't like the "most dangerous" descriptor. When it comes to homicide deaths, I think convenience store clerk was far more dangerous than law enforcement for several years. I'm sure if you go by lost time, there will be a lot of other candidates. How about pro football player?CasketRomance wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:52 pm would crab fishing have been accepted? or too specific?
Or soldier.
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Clam for me. Mrs Penguin said oil rig worker, which I thought was a decent guess.
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Re: "A Big Statistic" for $400 poll (10/14/19 spoiler)
Ditto for me. Except my initial thought was "lifeguard," but my mind quickly pushed that out due to the remembrance of hearing about the perils of being a fisherman.seaborgium wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:38 am I've heard the fact quoted before that fishing was the most dangerous occupation, so the mention of drowning confirmed my reflexive response.
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Re: "A Big Statistic" for $400 poll (10/14/19 spoiler)
I figured it had to be someone who actually goes out to sea, but couldn't come up with something specific. I thought of lifeguard, but dismissed it.
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I like it.opusthepenguin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:13 am Clam for me. Mrs Penguin said oil rig worker, which I thought was a decent guess.
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Re: "A Big Statistic" for $400 poll (10/14/19 spoiler)
Here's the most recent BLS statistics on workplace fatalities I can find that include a ranking
https://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cfch0016.pdf
(see slide 18)
It looks like BLS classifies underwater welding under Commercial Diving and here's a CDC page on that occupation based on BLS statistics 2011-2016
https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/programs/cmsh ... iving.html
And here's a table with all occupational fatalities in 2017, including
Commercial divers (5)
Lifeguards, ski patrol, and other recreational protective service workers (3)
Fishers and related fishing workers (41)
https://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cftb0317.xlsx
I said "lifeguard" only because it was all I could think of and it was worth a shot at that level. Once Alex said fishing I knew that I had heard that before...
https://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cfch0016.pdf
(see slide 18)
It looks like BLS classifies underwater welding under Commercial Diving and here's a CDC page on that occupation based on BLS statistics 2011-2016
https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/programs/cmsh ... iving.html
And here's a table with all occupational fatalities in 2017, including
Commercial divers (5)
Lifeguards, ski patrol, and other recreational protective service workers (3)
Fishers and related fishing workers (41)
https://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cftb0317.xlsx
I said "lifeguard" only because it was all I could think of and it was worth a shot at that level. Once Alex said fishing I knew that I had heard that before...
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Re: "A Big Statistic" for $400 poll (10/14/19 spoiler)
I stayed clam, but I thought of that show as soon as the response was revealed.
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Re: "A Big Statistic" for $400 poll (10/14/19 spoiler)
It doesn't fit the clue, but kamikaze pilot is a way more dangerous job.
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Are we talking absolute fatalities, or per 1000 in an occupation? I mean, how many people make a living scuba diving vs. Fishing? I'd guess there are at least 50 fishermen for every commercial diver...but it would only be a guess.
To me, "dangerous" means you have x % of a chance of dying on the job. But in absolute numbers, I guess there were more fishermen killed.
I just don't like the question, I guess. I'll go back to my corner now.
To me, "dangerous" means you have x % of a chance of dying on the job. But in absolute numbers, I guess there were more fishermen killed.
I just don't like the question, I guess. I'll go back to my corner now.
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Re: "A Big Statistic" for $400 poll (10/14/19 spoiler)
The articles I'm finding about the most dangerous jobs quote fatality rates, not just raw fatality numbers. Fishing is 200 fatalities per 100,000 workers, whereas #2, logging, is 62 per 100,000.MollyQMurphy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:31 am Are we talking absolute fatalities, or per 1000 in an occupation? I mean, how many people make a living scuba diving vs. Fishing? I'd guess there are at least 50 fishermen for every commercial diver...but it would only be a guess.
To me, "dangerous" means you have x % of a chance of dying on the job. But in absolute numbers, I guess there were more fishermen killed.
I just don't like the question, I guess. I'll go back to my corner now.
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Re: "A Big Statistic" for $400 poll (10/14/19 spoiler)
At the risk of repeating myself, here's a graphic with 2017 data, direct from the BLS-
https://www.bls.gov/charts/census-of-fa ... -rates.htm
It's clearer in the slide show posted above.
There's nothing specifically about drowning in the slides, though presumably it's included under "Exposure to harmful substances or environments"...
There have certainly been better sources for Jeopardy! clues than "a 2019 newspaper report."
https://www.bls.gov/charts/census-of-fa ... -rates.htm
It's clearer in the slide show posted above.
There's nothing specifically about drowning in the slides, though presumably it's included under "Exposure to harmful substances or environments"...
There have certainly been better sources for Jeopardy! clues than "a 2019 newspaper report."