Before and After: WoF or J?
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Before and After: WoF or J?
Did Before and After appear as a category on Jeopardy first, or Wheel of Fortune?
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Re: Before and After: WoF or J?
Wheel of Fortune debuted that category first in February 1989(Charlie O'Donnell returned simultaneously). J! however didn't begin using that category until at least Season 14.MinnesotaMyron wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:55 pm Did Before and After appear as a category on Jeopardy first, or Wheel of Fortune?
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Jeopardy had it at least by Season 13; it appears in the Pat Sajak April Fool's show, April 1, 1997, and Pat doesn't describe how it works, so familiarity is assumed.Ivoryface86 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:01 pmWheel of Fortune debuted that category first in February 1989(Charlie O'Donnell returned simultaneously). J! however didn't begin using that category until at least Season 14.MinnesotaMyron wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:55 pm Did Before and After appear as a category on Jeopardy first, or Wheel of Fortune?
I thought that Wheel had it first, though.
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Re: Before and After: WoF or J?
From the way it's described in the archive, it might have been the first appearance on Pat's episode:MinnesotaMyron wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:10 pmJeopardy had it at least by Season 13; it appears in the Pat Sajak April Fool's show, April 1, 1997, and Pat doesn't describe how it works, so familiarity is assumed.Ivoryface86 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:01 pmWheel of Fortune debuted that category first in February 1989(Charlie O'Donnell returned simultaneously). J! however didn't begin using that category until at least Season 14.MinnesotaMyron wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:55 pm Did Before and After appear as a category on Jeopardy first, or Wheel of Fortune?
I thought that Wheel had it first, though.
The use of the word "stole" might imply that it's the first time it appeared on J!, and there's a double implication (RIP Bill Cullen) that it was already well-known from WOF.Now I want to warn you about BEFORE & AFTER. We stole that from another show, and, uh, you'll, you'll understand it as, as we play it. Don't worry about a thing.
As you might have noticed, the only prior hit for a category from the archive is "BEFORE" AND "AFTER", which was probably a pun on the WOF category, and not quite the same thing.
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Re: Before and After: WoF or J?
I've watched just a few episodes of Wheel of Fortune since the Alex/Pat crossover episodes, but I remember it coming up on Wheel a lot before then when I was little.
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Re: Before and After: WoF or J?
Did they have Jeopardyish puzzles on the WOF episode Alex hosted?talkingaway wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:41 pmFrom the way it's described in the archive, it might have been the first appearance on Pat's episode:MinnesotaMyron wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:10 pmJeopardy had it at least by Season 13; it appears in the Pat Sajak April Fool's show, April 1, 1997, and Pat doesn't describe how it works, so familiarity is assumed.Ivoryface86 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:01 pmWheel of Fortune debuted that category first in February 1989(Charlie O'Donnell returned simultaneously). J! however didn't begin using that category until at least Season 14.MinnesotaMyron wrote: ↑Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:55 pm Did Before and After appear as a category on Jeopardy first, or Wheel of Fortune?
I thought that Wheel had it first, though.
The use of the word "stole" might imply that it's the first time it appeared on J!, and there's a double implication (RIP Bill Cullen) that it was already well-known from WOF.Now I want to warn you about BEFORE & AFTER. We stole that from another show, and, uh, you'll, you'll understand it as, as we play it. Don't worry about a thing.
As you might have noticed, the only prior hit for a category from the archive is "BEFORE" AND "AFTER", which was probably a pun on the WOF category, and not quite the same thing.
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Re: Before and After: WoF or J?
^The WOF puzzles for the April 1, 1997 episode were the following:
Round 1, Phrase: PAT I'D LIKE TO SOLVE THE PUZZLE
Round 2, The 80's: VANNA MAKES HER WHEEL DEBUT
Round 3, Really Long Title: SUPERCALI-FRAGILISTIC-EXPIALIDOCIOUS
Round 4, Phrase: IT'S NOT AS EASY AS IT LOOKS
Bonus Round, Event: TRADING PLACES
Round 1, Phrase: PAT I'D LIKE TO SOLVE THE PUZZLE
Round 2, The 80's: VANNA MAKES HER WHEEL DEBUT
Round 3, Really Long Title: SUPERCALI-FRAGILISTIC-EXPIALIDOCIOUS
Round 4, Phrase: IT'S NOT AS EASY AS IT LOOKS
Bonus Round, Event: TRADING PLACES
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Re: Before and After: WoF or J?
Before & After appeared as a category first on Wheel in 1989, and on J! on 4/1/97 (the Pat Sajak-hosted episode), as has been mentioned here a bunch. Since then, however, it is apparently the most common recurring category type to appear on J! ("recurring category type" here refers to things like "Crossword Clues (n)", "Potpourri/Hodgepodge", "Potent Potables", etc.)
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Re: Before and After: WoF or J?
Ooo, sorry..."Before & After" may be the single most common name for a category, but it is not the most common type. There have been 247 Before & After categories since April 1, 1997. During that time there have also been 249 Rhyme Time, 267 Potpourri/Hodgepodge, 270 Crossword Clues, and a whopping 603 #-Letter Words categories.NoWhammies10 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:16 pm Before & After appeared as a category first on Wheel in 1989, and on J! on 4/1/97 (the Pat Sajak-hosted episode), as has been mentioned here a bunch. Since then, however, it is apparently the most common recurring category type to appear on J! ("recurring category type" here refers to things like "Crossword Clues (n)", "Potpourri/Hodgepodge", "Potent Potables", etc.)
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Re: Before and After: WoF or J?
I sit corrected! We'll have to take away $1,600. Cheezguytv, you pick as we continue.