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econgator wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 6:31 pm
Robert K S wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 6:07 pm
econgator wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 2:36 pm DJ11 -- should magazine be capitalized?
I'm gonna say no?
I can find a Keynote Magazine, but that has to do more with public speaking and the like, so that's probably not it. So, sure it could also be Keynote magazine (using a form similar to Time magazine), but *shrug*.
I see I was now going off of that Keynote, the wrong Keynote, but which I think would also just be Keynote.

A little more digging and I think the right Keynote would also just be Keynote. In any case, it's defunct.

https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-S ... 980-10.pdf
https://primo.getty.edu/primo-explore/f ... &context=L
https://newcriterion.com/issues/1994/2/ ... al-station
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Robert found the same pdf I did. At any rate, most style guides leave "magazine" uncapitalized, unless it's in the actual magazine title.
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Continuing through the Frazee tapes, we have January 2, 1992, Jim Merritt vs. Marcia Landefeld vs. Todd Lefkowitz.

https://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7624

There was a lot going on here, but of course now I can't remember it all. I was proud of myself for figuring out Marcia's response to WOMEN IN SPORTS for $400(J!). It's not pronounced like I thought. (Thanks google.)

The Julius Caesar category in DJ was all about the Shakespeare play. (The category title was not underlined.) I remember in Harry Eisenberg's book that about this time they we attempting to do every Shakespeare play as a category (He was peeved that some of the more obscure titles didn't make good categories). This might be one of those. As it is, the whole category is a Thing Worth Knowing, especially the harder lower clues.

We welcome defunct retailer ComputerLand to the J-Canon.

Clue of the game will be THE SECRET SERVICE for $200(J!)
The Secret Service protects widows of presidents until they fire them, die or do this
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What is remarry?
Todd risked his lock game with his DJ!30 Daily Double wager, but he got it right. All 3 contestants had the same wrong guess for FJ, but they got to the right author, at least. Todd didn't risk his lead on FJ.

I don't ever remember seeing this warning before:

"WARNING: There was a tie for last place at the end of the Double Jeopardy! Round. Please ensure that the Final Jeopardy! clue includes a note indicating which player's Final Jeopardy! response was revealed first..."

but I had already included that info in a note, so yay me.

The next game has its skeleton entered already, and it's digitzed, so we'll go there next. Have a nice night everyone.
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Courtesy of the National Archives of Game Show History I added 12/18/86: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7669

Player pics of Barbara Cann, Tom Olsen and Frank Hughes:
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Surname guessing with nothing to back up Cann vs. Can, Kann, etc and Olden can always be Olson, of course.

Alex had quite the laundry list for the FJ! round. Ken would have done it with no card and added a couple of more. :lol:

Other than missing intros, that completes Franks's run of games. Check out the gift Frank got in game 3.
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Courtesy of the National Archives of Game Show History I added 2/26/85: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7671

Player pics of Candy Carey, Tom O’Brien and Leo Cullum:
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Over the past week I did S2-S7 games (+ a S11), so it was time to do another first season one. The J! round was respectable and was almost like a typical game from any season. The DJ! round had the wheels come off and by the end the W count was way up again.

Leo was quite fortunate to not only get a sole solve on that clue, but to have the wagering work out for him as well.

I did this game when I saw in the archivist's list it had Tom O'Brien and was disappointed when it was a Tom O'Brien but not the Tom O'Brien who cleaned up on Sale of the Century.

As always, it's guess the surnames and there could be many options besides "Carey".
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MarkBarrett wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:05 pm Courtesy of the National Archives of Game Show History I added 2/26/85: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7671

Player pics of Candy Carey, Tom O’Brien and Leo Cullum:
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Over the past week I did S2-S7 games (+ a S11), so it was time to do another first season one. The J! round was respectable and was almost like a typical game from any season. The DJ! round had the wheels come off and by the end the W count was way up again.

Leo was quite fortunate to not only get a sole solve on that clue, but to have the wagering work out for him as well.

I did this game when I saw in the archivist's list it had Tom O'Brien and was disappointed when it was a Tom O'Brien but not the Tom O'Brien who cleaned up on Sale of the Century.

As always, it's guess the surnames and there could be many options besides "Carey".
Based on the name I actually wondered if it was the same Tom O’Brien who won $500,000 on WWTBAM in June 2000 (and had he gone on he would have won the million). I saw the archived game before the post - and the photo of him most definitely matches him.
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I wish Leo had missed FJ just for the fun of a $50 champ.

I knew the first MOTY, but the other guesses were pretty bad. Going for the president isn’t a bad strategy but Hoover wasn’t president then. But at least he was actually alive.
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jeopardyfan87 wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:49 pm Based on the name I actually wondered if it was the same Tom O’Brien who won $500,000 on WWTBAM in June 2000 (and had he gone on he would have won the million). I saw the archived game before the post - and the photo of him most definitely matches him.
I wondered the same thing!
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I'm pretty sure there has been mention of Millionaire Tom being on Jeopardy before. His page on the wiki even has the Jeopardy Contestants category. But before now there was no indication of it in the archive. So yes I think it's a match.
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BAM line added for Tom since all of you seem to be in agreement with no objections.
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MarkBarrett wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:05 pm Courtesy of the National Archives of Game Show History I added 2/26/85: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7671
J15 you have Amer!can
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econgator wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:19 pm
MarkBarrett wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:05 pm Courtesy of the National Archives of Game Show History I added 2/26/85: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7671
J15 you have Amer!can
Ah, the old ! instead of i that the OCR loves to do. Fixed, thanks.
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Courtesy of the National Archives of Game Show History I added 12/19/89: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7673

Player pics of Julie Meyers, Jeff Bandman and Lea Hall:
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Sometimes a players has to catch a break or need a little luck in Game 1 to get going on a streak.

Tough game for the Alex and the judges while hard to argue with any of the rulings.

I knew I was in for it with incorrect responses from the start at J1 while my favorites were in J28.

The FJ! clue had me even more lost than Jeff as after I told myself it could not be St. (Saint) Joan I was all over the map eliminating:
My Fair Lady
The Crucible
Sweeney Todd
Cabaret


For the surname detective game (intros were missing) extra information for Julie is she is a violinist and brewmeister.
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Courtesy of the National Archives of Game Show History I added 11/24/88: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7676

Player pics of Jay Browne, Yael Sofaer and Gleen Stoops:
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Always fun to watch again to see how a ToCer got started. Like Donald Burgo, I could identify Yael's voice in a snap.

Another snap was 3/3 on the FJ! clue for something that becomes easier over the years with many years of foundational memory while in 1988 it can be more difficult closer to the fact.
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MarkBarrett wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:07 pm Courtesy of the National Archives of Game Show History I added 11/24/88: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7676

Player pics of Jay Browne, Yael Sofaer and Gleen Stoops:
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Always fun to watch again to see how a ToCer got started. Like Donald Burgo, I could identify Yael's voice in a snap.

Another snap was 3/3 on the FJ! clue for something that becomes easier over the years with many years of foundational memory while in 1988 it can be more difficult closer to the fact.
You have a lower case c in the J6 response and an upper case y in the DJ11 response. I’m guessing that singers should be singer in DJ9.

Trying to imagine Alabama covering Dust in the Wind.

Got a chuckle seeing DJ13 but nobody gave the alternate response.

Not a movie guy, but I did get the first two you listed.
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Bamaman wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 6:56 am
MarkBarrett wrote: Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:07 pm Courtesy of the National Archives of Game Show History I added 11/24/88: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7676

Player pics of Jay Browne, Yael Sofaer and Gleen Stoops:
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Always fun to watch again to see how a ToCer got started. Like Donald Burgo, I could identify Yael's voice in a snap.

Another snap was 3/3 on the FJ! clue for something that becomes easier over the years with many years of foundational memory while in 1988 it can be more difficult closer to the fact.
You have a lower case c in the J6 response and an upper case y in the DJ11 response. I’m guessing that singers should be singer in DJ9.

Trying to imagine Alabama covering Dust in the Wind.

Got a chuckle seeing DJ13 but nobody gave the alternate response.

Not a movie guy, but I did get the first two you listed.
Cleaned up the errors, thanks. Yes, would have been great if D13 went the Yogesh way.
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Courtesy of the National Archives of Game Show History I added 2/29/88: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7679

Player pics of Marge Stratmann, Jeff Liebster and Michael Shutterly:
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That Michael seemed pretty knowledgeable on the papacy. ;)

I would hope that FJ! clue went 3/3.

The archivists do not have Michael's 4th game. :(
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Courtesy of the National Archives of Game Show History I added 1/19/87: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7680

Player pics of Suzanne Peck, Melissa Meisel and Mike Williams:
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A lot of extra talk between Alex and Suzanne and I may not have heard everything quite right.

Sure, a Goren points DD would get a correct response in 2023, right?
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MarkBarrett wrote: Sat Jan 28, 2023 3:05 pm Sure, a Goren points DD would get a correct response in 2023, right?
Esoteric Bridge Information is in the J-Canon now, but I'm not sure it gets the welcome. :?
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MarkBarrett wrote: Sat Jan 28, 2023 3:05 pm Sure, a Goren points DD would get a correct response in 2023, right?
it does from me, what's the problem? :geek:
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